No.

We have
1. Grand Viz (Lift)
2. Rebel
3. Rebel
4. Imam
7x Protesters

Total 11 players.

Commander of the Guard and Judge are NOT present.

They will be chosen by Lift.

So as I said, now we all want rebels to win (except Lift).

But if Lift chooses you for either CotG or Judge post, that's when you'll become a Loyalist.

"Down with the Sultan! But only a bit. I love you really."

Please don't discuss politics. You'll get the game locked.

But the theme is inherently political. As soon as GameRager posts here you know it's going to be locked.

That aligns with my understanding. I believe the Commander of the Guard and Judge are positions players can be appointed to. The role descriptions are for what that role can do depending on whether the recruited player is a rebel or a protester (protester becomes a loyalist, rebel stays a rebel).

So. We have Pooka who is very eager to join my government. Cadaver, who does his best to please me. ZFR, who outed himself as bad guy by assuming that everyone but me (himself included) is a bad guy. And SirP who fools around.

I'll wait for the other esteemed nobles to show up and say their speeches, before choosing whom to trust.

LOL

OK, I get it now: Loyalist is "mafia" this time. And we need to ask Mafia Boss (Grand Vizier) to give us a job. What could go wrong...
Why can't Grand Vizier just give the job to his loyal servants? Unless of course they don't have a chat. Meaning loyalists have to show that they are so loyal.
I'm f@cked ;)

Yup. It's a bit like a Cult game with the Cult Leader known (Grand Vizier) except with no lynching, so you can't just lynch the cult leader. Rebels are like masons: they know each other and if Cult leader recruits them he's screwed.

Which brings the question: what's the best victory condition to play into: hope you don't get recruited and rebels win, or hope you don get recruited.

You can only vote for players nominated by the Imam. But voting for yourself strikes of being purposely unconfrontational

Asking questions about game set up, highly suspicious ZFR ;) Also I think you're misunderstanding about win conditions points to the fact you probably ARE NOT a Loyalist. You must be either Rebel or Protestor because:

Loyalists want no Rebels in Gov at end game

Rebels want Rebel majority or a Rebel Grand Vizor

All Protestors have 2 different win conditions and some Protestors can win and some can lose. Protestors win by having no Rebels in gov, while being in gov. They also win by being out of gov while having a Rebel majority

Of course the ONLY road to victory is to serve the noble Sultan faithfully and become a Loyalist! Everyone should play for a Loyalist win! ;-)

Are you jealous I'm not fooling around with you? All you have to do is recruit me baby.

No, look at the protesters' win condition.



A cult which is portrayed as being the "town" faction. Or you could see it as a sort of reverse cult where you have the mafia (rebels) and a load of associates who aren't full members (protesters). People leave the cult instead of being recruited to it. Yours makes more sense mechanically, but in terms of informed minority the rebels are closest to mafia.

I think we all hope that you, Don, get recruited to be honest.

Really?
I thought that:
"7x Minor Nobility (protester)

- No power

Win Condition: The rebels control a majority of government, or a rebel is Grand Vizier. If you are appointed to the government, then your win condition changes to the loyalists."

I don't know what to think about it. You might be a confused loyalist or an angry imam ;)

Yes, 7 protesters, 1 imam, 2 rebels and 1 Vizier accounts for all 11 players. As far as I understand there are no loyalists yet.

Actually, how CAN the Protesters control a majority of government? The moment they get recruited by me into the government, they become Loyalists, right?

@zazak: this is actually a question to the mod for a rule clarification

They can't. They win if rebels control majority government.

Can somebody give me some flow chartses so I can figure out how to win

thanks in advance