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Goodaltgamer: Yes, there is more than one, agreed. But as he seems to have not so much knowledge of computers I did not want to suggest anything even more complicated, what might throw him off afterwards.

For example DowmThemAll can change your browsing experience quite a bit and might complicate his life afterwards. Gogdownloader on the other hand we do know and it does not impact anything else in my experience.
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cogadh: Considering the GOG downloader is no longer supported by GOG and will eventually simply stop working
And when that happens I'm going to have 760 games here that I can't download and play.
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timppu: No he doesn't. I don't get it why people keep telling new users to use that old, complicated and non-supported, piece of shit to download their GOG games. Let it die already.
Complicated?

Just curious what bad experiences the people in this thread have had with the DLer? I use it with no issues and had far more troubles with the Galaxy client when I tried it out (granted that was some time ago now).

Not that I'm advocating new users should be pushed toward using it (and the DLer doesn't seem to be the proper solution in this case anyway).
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cogadh: Considering the GOG downloader is no longer supported by GOG and will eventually simply stop working (not that it worked all that well to begin with), it is not a viable suggestion, no matter what level of computer literacy a person might have. If people don't want Galaxy, we should be directing them to one of the many other alternatives. If you are concerned about overwhelming someone with all the features of something like DownThemAll, point them at one of the community solutions, which are far simpler and GOG-specific.
OK, let's go one step backwards ;)

There are quite a few solutions around, yes we do agree on this. But, do we all have those installed? As usual everyone has his/her own preference, you like chocolate I like vanilla ;)

for the sake of it let's assume he ;):

He comes now with a problem, download not working, he forgets to mention that he is using strawberry and the problem is with strawberry, plus not everyone has strawberry. That would be counterproductive as well, or?

And just in case, it is a problem related with his account or similar, at least, if using the tools provided by GOG, makes GOG's live easier as well, don't we agree on this? (Doesn't matter if the GOG-downloader is still supported or not ;) )


Using gogrepo.py? Might not be feasible. (if that was what you wanted to point out?)
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GR00T: Complicated?
Mainly how you have to use to together with a web browser, ie. log in to your account both from the web browser and the Downloader client, and then click on the links on your web browser for them to be transferred to the Downloader, which does the actual downloading.

I also found it somewhat unreliable client. Quite often if I let it download lots of stuff overnight and I came to check in the morning, the downloads had just stopped and greyed out, no error or anything, and no way to resume the downloads either.

Also while it apparently has some kind of integrity check for the downloads, it seems to fall apart if you try to download over a shitty internet connection. I recall when trying to download over a slow mobile GPRS connection, I kept getting failures with the Downloader downloads (corrupted downloads).

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Goodaltgamer: Using gogrepo.py? Might not be feasible. (if that was what you wanted to point out?)
gogrepo (and lgogdownloader) have one very specific purpose: to easily download all your GOG game offline installers (and extras), and also semi-automatically checking and downloading any updates that may have come.

gogrepo is also handy for checking the integrity of your local GOG game collection, that they are still fine and haven't become corrupted at any point, either during the downloads, or some file operations, or just the good old bitrot.

But if the person just wants to download some game(s) to install and play them, then gogrepo is not the right answer (especially since setting it up is a bit complicated, especially now with the new GOG captcha which means you have to export valid GOG cookies from your browser once for gogrepo). It is for people who want to keep an offline repository of all their GOG games. Like me, I have over 1300 games on GOG and I don't even want to think how much work it would be to try to download them with other methods, AND try to keep them up to date..


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Goodaltgamer: As he did not install Galaxy on his own and he seem to have no intend to do so, why shall I press him to install Galaxy? Shall we not respect his decision NOT to install Galaxy?

Don't forget, a lot of people are coming here as they do not want to have a client in place.
GOG Downloader is also a separate client that he'd need to install and use separately.

I don't really see the logic in mentioning it, if the purpose is not to use any separate downloader or gaming client.
Post edited September 23, 2016 by timppu
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cogadh: Considering the GOG downloader is no longer supported by GOG and will eventually simply stop working (not that it worked all that well to begin with), it is not a viable suggestion, no matter what level of computer literacy a person might have. If people don't want Galaxy, we should be directing them to one of the many other alternatives. If you are concerned about overwhelming someone with all the features of something like DownThemAll, point them at one of the community solutions, which are far simpler and GOG-specific.
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Goodaltgamer: OK, let's go one step backwards ;)

There are quite a few solutions around, yes we do agree on this. But, do we all have those installed? As usual everyone has his/her own preference, you like chocolate I like vanilla ;)

for the sake of it let's assume he ;):

He comes now with a problem, download not working, he forgets to mention that he is using strawberry and the problem is with strawberry, plus not everyone has strawberry. That would be counterproductive as well, or?

And just in case, it is a problem related with his account or similar, at least, if using the tools provided by GOG, makes GOG's live easier as well, don't we agree on this? (Doesn't matter if the GOG-downloader is still supported or not ;) )

Using gogrepo.py? Might not be feasible. (if that was what you wanted to point out?)
That is a completely moot point, since you are suggesting he install maple walnut (ewww), regardless of what flavor he may already have or prefer. Additionally, the problem as I understand it has nothing to do with his ability to download the files, just with running them once downloaded (something he clearly states twice). If he were having download issues, suggesting vanilla or chocolate (or even maple walnut) as an alternate solution might make sense, but right now it is just muddying the water. We need to figure out why the downloaded files are not running when executed, not yet another way for him to download them.

I don't know why using gogrepo would not be feasible (what kind of assumption is that?), but even if it was, that is only one of at least three different community-created download solutions that all work better than GOG's old downloader, in addition to the third party, non-GOG specific options out there.
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timppu: I recall when trying to download over a slow mobile GPRS connection, I kept getting failures with the Downloader downloads (corrupted downloads).

gogrepo
The problem with the GPRS connection is not really a problem of the downloader, just the good old timeout upon a request (old standard) when the connection is dropping. And yes, I have seen it myself, but same can even happen on webpages ;) So not really downloader problem ;)

Thanks for your reply, even as it wasn't addressed at you ;)

But because of those hassles I suggested the old downloader as he seem not to have such a huge collection to bother about.

My remark was mainly addressed with the original post:

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cogadh: point them at one of the community solutions,
Hence my reply if he was thinking about gogrepo ;)

And AFAIK, lgogdownloader is only for Linux, right? The OP clearly stated the use of Win XP ;) If you do know about a community solution, feel free to enlighten me ;) (no pun intended)

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timppu: GOG Downloader is also a separate client that he'd need to install and use separately.

I don't really see the logic in mentioning it, if the purpose is not to use any separate downloader or gaming client.
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cogadh: Additionally, the problem as I understand it has nothing to do with his ability to download the files, just with running them once downloaded (something he clearly states twice).
Yes, it would have something to do with downloading, if the file is not downloaded correctly.

And the behaviour he described is not excluding this possibility. Hence GR00T and me posted the files sizes.

For gogrepo, just also read what timppu wrote about this, And you want to explain this to a person, who doesn't know so much about computers, yeah right......

And cogadh, you just do fingerpointing here about flavour, but I asked you specifically about what you wrote!!!!!

gogdownloader is there, for most it is working and again, if you don't like the flavour, fine with me, but you said the above in bold, and I am still waiting for.

And I do agree the point is, he can't run them, but why, we don't know. For me, I start with the first thing, checking if the file is actually correct. And as I pointed out, that is why I gave him the file size and the gogdownloader, just as an example to download it with a fairly reliable method to exclude anything else (cookies/skript/whatthefuckever!). It is called most common denominator., don't we agree on this?
Post edited September 23, 2016 by Goodaltgamer
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timppu: Mainly how you have to use to together with a web browser, ie. log in to your account both from the web browser and the Downloader client, and then click on the links on your web browser for them to be transferred to the Downloader, which does the actual downloading.

I also found it somewhat unreliable client. Quite often if I let it download lots of stuff overnight and I came to check in the morning, the downloads had just stopped and greyed out, no error or anything, and no way to resume the downloads either.

Also while it apparently has some kind of integrity check for the downloads, it seems to fall apart if you try to download over a shitty internet connection. I recall when trying to download over a slow mobile GPRS connection, I kept getting failures with the Downloader downloads (corrupted downloads).
While I don't feel it's that complicated, that may be because I'm used to it. Probably more complication than somone new to the site needs though.

And ouch, that's some pretty crappy luck you've had with it.

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timppu: gogrepo (and lgogdownloader) have one very specific purpose: to easily download all your GOG game offline installers (and extras), and also semi-automatically checking and downloading any updates that may have come.

gogrepo is also handy for checking the integrity of your local GOG game collection, that they are still fine and haven't become corrupted at any point, either during the downloads, or some file operations, or just the good old bitrot.
I'm going to have to look into this, since the DLer is not going to last forever, and I think I need a more robust solution anyway.
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cogadh: point them at one of the community solutions,
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Goodaltgamer: Hence my reply if he was thinking about gogrepo ;)

And AFAIK, lgogdownloader is only for Linux, right? The OP clearly stated the use of Win XP ;) If you do know about a community solution, feel free to enlighten me ;) (no pun intended)
http://www.gogwiki.com/wiki/Download_Clients
Nice link, BUT:

the only solution for Win XP is Java or Phyton, correct?

And again, as he stated he is no pro with computers, correct?

I do not want to bash the OP or anyone else, but as he stated clearly, he is no computer wiz and you want to throw at him java or phyton?

Sorry but I don't think that is a feasible suggestion at all. Plus with the 2 step/recaptcha makes it even worth.

So the only thing left is the gogdownloader, or?

The problem nowadays is, that people are to used too, I just want to click there and it shall work. I do agree that the ones in the list are better, but his main intention was and I think still is, to get his games running ;)
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Goodaltgamer: Nice link, BUT:

the only solution for Win XP is Java or Phyton, correct?

And again, as he stated he is no pro with computers, correct?

I do not want to bash the OP or anyone else, but as he stated clearly, he is no computer wiz and you want to throw at him java or phyton?

Sorry but I don't think that is a feasible suggestion at all. Plus with the 2 step/recaptcha makes it even worth.

So the only thing left is the gogdownloader, or?

The problem nowadays is, that people are to used too, I just want to click there and it shall work. I do agree that the ones in the list are better, but his main intention was and I think still is, to get his games running ;)
Wow, you have an incredibly low opinion of what is and isn't computer literate. Java and Python are no harder to use than a simple .exe, especially Java, since that is likely already installed on every computer out there. It is literally "click there and it shall work", just like the outdated downloader, only better. Even if it weren't, it is not hard to type out simple "user proof" step by step instructions, which can only serve to make someone a more informed user; stop trying to over simplify things that don't really need over simplification, it actually ends up complicating things even more.

But again, this is all moot, since the OP has already stated that he can download the files. Whether or not they are corrupted can be determined without resorting to confusing the issue with downloading alternatives and until the OP comes back with confirmation of something as basic as the file sizes, it is not something that should even be on the table.
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cogadh: But again, this is all moot, since the OP has already stated that he can download the files. Whether or not they are corrupted can be determined without resorting to confusing the issue with downloading alternatives and until the OP comes back with confirmation of something as basic as the file sizes, it is not something that should even be on the table.
It wasn't me making "this confusion". I said it often enough. And again I would suggest read what I wrote. And nice to see, that you aren't bothered about a discussion really.
Thanks everyone for the replies, gogdownloader solved the problem for moo(2).
Still gaving trouble ruunig V:tM Bloodlines after the installation, though
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Chernozub: Thanks everyone for the replies, gogdownloader solved the problem for moo(2).
Still gaving trouble ruunig V:tM Bloodlines after the installation, though
Sorry can't help, haven't go this game .

If nobody replies I would suggest open a new thread with all the information (file size etc.... ) ;)
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Chernozub: Thanks everyone for the replies, gogdownloader solved the problem for moo(2).
Still gaving trouble ruunig V:tM Bloodlines after the installation, though
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Goodaltgamer: Sorry can't help, haven't go this game .

If nobody replies I would suggest open a new thread with all the information (file size etc.... ) ;)
Yeah sure.
I hope not too much flames was generated in this thread.
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Chernozub: Yeah sure.
I hope not too much flames was generated in this thread.
Don't be afraid, it happens sometimes ;)

One hint, some games do a checksum check prior to installation, does Bloodlines have it as well, did it go through?