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General discussionBrexit : Once upon a time in EU (official thread, please stay civil)(1650 posts) (1650 posts) 
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This is my favourite topic
Posted June 22, 2016
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Gnostic:
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t850terminator: just use the internet for the only thing that matters, gaming. XD
and porno
Posted June 22, 2016
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t850terminator: just use the internet for the only thing that matters, gaming. XD
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tinyE: and porno
And looking on Craigslist for stuff to buy
Posted June 22, 2016
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tinyE: and porno
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HereForTheBeer: And looking on Craigslist for stuff to buy
And maybe Amazon?
Posted June 22, 2016
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HereForTheBeer: And looking on Craigslist for stuff to buy
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t850terminator: And maybe Amazon?
Amen. Where I live Amazon is a must!
Posted June 22, 2016
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catpower1980: The latest trend on Twitter:

#CatsAgainstBrexit

https://twitter.com/hashtag/catsagainstbrexit?f=tweets&vertical=default&src=hash

EDIT: damn, maybe I should change my username to dogpower :o)
Think again.

https://twitter.com/hashtag/DogsAgainstBrexit?src=hash
Posted June 22, 2016
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t850terminator: And maybe Amazon?
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tinyE: Amen. Where I live Amazon is a must!
IMO, Prime is pretty great. Only takes 2 days for packages.
Posted June 22, 2016
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tinyE:
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Post edited June 22, 2016 by fronzelneekburm
Posted June 22, 2016
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catpower1980: The latest trend on Twitter:

#CatsAgainstBrexit

https://twitter.com/hashtag/catsagainstbrexit?f=tweets&vertical=default&src=hash

EDIT: damn, maybe I should change my username to dogpower :o)
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Gnostic: Think again.

https://twitter.com/hashtag/DogsAgainstBrexit?src=hash
The dog hashtag is way less popular than the cat one, just a proof that cats are the best and cutest and the true lords that rule Internet :o)

And well, once the cats are against the Brexit, you know that resistance is futile so I predict that Britain remains ;)
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Post edited June 22, 2016 by catpower1980
Posted June 22, 2016
I think the referendum tomorrow will end with slightly above 55% against Brexit and slightly below 45% for it and I think this will somewhat accurately reflect the current situation in Britain.

What I don't like is that the campaigning became so dirty in the end. Whenever you favor emotions over arguments you are sure to hurt people. Always someone gets hurt. It leaves a bad taste.

What I like is that you actually can leave the EU. This is a great right. Try that in any other big country consisting of many different groups of people like USA, Russia, China, India, ... and you'll get the shitty end of the stick pretty fast.

Whatever you say about the EU, an option to leave is actually a great thing.

What I think is that the EU needs reforms urgently, mostly much more democracy and representation and secondly a balanced approach to central power vs. local government. This is not simple but it needs to be done. Big changes are coming (either way).

I don't think Britain is better alone, even with the current state of the EU. Nationalism is not the answer to any problem we have.

What I really like about the EU is keeping the peace (100 years ago Europeans just killed each other) and offering free movement across borders and free work.

While this may seem like more competition at first glance it also offers more opportunity and this in the end is even increasing the welfare (otherwise big countries like USA, Russia, China, India would really suffer, wouldn't they).

Just that I can visit Britain without a VISA and that I can look for work there (and Britains can look for work in Germany as well) is a really great thing - and that is (plus the peace thing) what the EU is all about in my eyes. Basically I feel like I have a right to be in Britain (or France or Spain or Italy or Sweden) and that Britains have a right to be here all that. Without the EU, we don't have all that. It means less freedom to move and less opportunities for everyone.

The Brexit campaign is not aimed at improving the EU at all (which I could totally understand), it is a simple Britain for the Britains thing where everyone from abroad is seen as something completely different. I really don't like this.

Anyway what about the inter-country-marriages (if such a word exists)? For example if a Britain marries a German. How will they fit in culturally (Britain First??) and job-related and tax-related if Brexit comes.

Anyway, if surprisingly Brexit will happen, the only good thing for me would be that I can then take them as an example for the next 20 years of how to screw up (because that's what I think will happen). Not much to look forward to in my eyes.

So please Britains, don't do it, please. (Nationalism is going nowhere.)
Post edited June 22, 2016 by Trilarion
Posted June 22, 2016
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catpower1980: ??? I don't really see why you're arguing as I posted a listing of referendums which ended up with a majority of "no".

For Denmark and Sweden, their "no" was accepted and they still have their own currency (SEK and DKK).

For the "made to vote again", it's self-explanatory. I don't see what's false as there were a second referendum.

Only the "ignored" for the constitution can leave to interpretations.
Because its agenda was to show how those referendums get ignored and in most quoted cases it is either direct lie or at least misinterpretation so I felt like it would be prudent to actually add some facts to it?

Thename of the list clearly indicates it is meant to show how referenda get either ignored or pushed to vote again by authorities.
But for voting again there was usually reason because there were changes made to thing that was voted about. That I find reasonable.
And those labeled ignored were mostly not really ignored at all.

As for Denmark and Sweden Euro. The list is titled "don't take no for answer" so my conclusion of it was that by "accepted" autghor meant that euro was accepted, not that the referndum outcome was accepted. What would be the point of it being on such list otherwise?

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Trilarion: (Nationalism is going nowhere.)
IMO, nationalism is probably the worst invention of the 18th century.

It causes so many troubles and is source of numerous conflicts and hatred.
Post edited June 22, 2016 by Vitek
Posted June 22, 2016
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catpower1980: The latest trend on Twitter:

#CatsAgainstBrexit

https://twitter.com/hashtag/catsagainstbrexit?f=tweets&vertical=default&src=hash

EDIT: damn, maybe I should change my username to dogpower :o)
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Gnostic: Think again.

https://twitter.com/hashtag/DogsAgainstBrexit?src=hash
That's the downside when you anthropomorphize an idea.
Posted June 22, 2016
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Trilarion: (Nationalism is going nowhere.)
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Vitek: IMO, nationalism is probably the worst invention of the 18th century.

It causes so many troubles and is source of numerous conflicts and hatred.
LOL: what about the rights of people of a nation to preserve their specifities? Are Swiss nationalists?

What I find interesting is that most of the pro EU crowd comes from UK and Germany which are considered as two of the most liberal (in the European meaning) countries and in a relative position of power in EU decisions. Should we accept the "zero-hour contracts" and lowered minimum wages on the rest of EU because otherwise we're considered as nationalists? Are the French unionists in fact nationalists?
Posted June 22, 2016
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Vitek: IMO, nationalism is probably the worst invention of the 18th century.

It causes so many troubles and is source of numerous conflicts and hatred.
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catpower1980: LOL: what about the rights of people of a nation to preserve their specifities? Are Swiss nationalists?

What I find interesting is that most of the pro EU crowd comes from UK and Germany which are considered as two of the most liberal (in the European meaning) countries and in a relative position of power in EU decisions. Should we accept the "zero-hour contracts" and lowered minimum wages on the rest of EU because otherwise we're considered as nationalists? Are the French unionists in fact nationalists?
Maps and borders are racist, didn't you learn that by now? You really need to check your cartography privilege. =)
Posted June 22, 2016
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Vitek: IMO, sovereignty is probably the worst invention of the 18th century.
Fix'd that for you, bro.

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Vitek: It causes so many troubles and is source of numerous conflicts and hatred.
Wrong, m8. The "source" is the scum that finance war for a living and skim the cream from the global monetary system, while the bottom is falling out for the rest of us.
Post edited June 22, 2016 by richlind33
Posted June 22, 2016
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richlind33: ...
Business and corporation are two different things, bub. Do all businesses seek to limit their liability? Fuck no. Most businesses never bother to incorporate.

The only "singapoor experience" you have is a shitty video card you bought from Tiger Direct. Now kindly fook off.
no, i am singaporean whether you believe or not. i just identify UK as my "fatherland" of sorts. i've never heard of tiger direct outside of 1990's youtube reviews on their sold products. so you fuck off, corporate shilling union busting tea party wanker.

why the fuck are you even shilling for Tiger Direct out of nowhere!??! i don't think they even ship to singapoor. most whities corporations don't bother to, including amazon(unless 3rd-party resellers).

and videocards? i don't think we ever manufactured videocards except that time when Creative decided to diversify into home computers, and failed hard. our manufacturing sector is a sunset industry. dumbass.

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dick1982: true dat, yo. no diggity. texas should hath been sold to mexico. fact checked!

i would petition for obama to take his guns away.
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summitus: I think your forum name says it all .... ;)
if i wanted to be PC about this, i would call you a racist gross bigot for calling me a "dick" because i'm a colored asian. i hope they take away your knives too.

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Do I have to register to take part in the EU referendum?
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-32810887

Ah.I realised as a commonwealth citizen, I could in theory fly over to Brit tonight to vote for Brexit if they allow me to register real quick.
Post edited June 22, 2016 by dick1982
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