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fronzelneekburm: I dunno, sounds pretty imperialistic to me. You can think about the Chinese system whatever you want, but it seems to work out exceedingly well for them. They have this thing that has become a distant, fading memory in the West: prosperity. Which is also the reason why Western companies are tripping over themselves to have a piece of the pie. So what makes you think you're in any position to dictate to other countries (let alone the one well on the way to dethrone the US as the number one superpower) what kind of system they're supposed to have?

As for the usual kvetching about muh civil rights: The names Snowden and Assange ring a bell, right? Also, you might want to check out the Socialist Core Values as defined by the Chinese government. Among them you will find such oh-so-Western concepts as "democracy", "freedom", "equality", "justice" and "rule of law". Now you can either stay in your sedated, bluepilled sheeple state and figure "It's a lie when the Chinese use these words!" Or you can realise that governments the world over are just bullshitters who like to throw around these fancy buzzwords in an effort to convince their plundered and exploited wageslave populace that people on the other side of the world have it significantly worse than them.
You're insane if you think a dictatorship with reeducation camps and massive censorship is something to be accepted or positively compared to Western democracies. I see you live in China, and I'm sorry to be so blunt with you, but you have no idea what you're talking about. I hope one day you experience freedom.
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Elmofongo: I am cautious about Netflix's The Witcher, Amazon's Lord of the Rings and Star Trek: Picard
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rtcvb32: Considering how woke NetFlix is, i wouldn't be surprised...

I can't say any movie coming out interests me.

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GameRager: And some make a good living just of patreon/subscribestar/etc, or a small ad on the end of the video. They don't need to shill for minutes on each video if they want to make a living.
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rtcvb32: Undoubtedly some do. I wonder how much of it is contractually obligated... Though i'd figure most of them would have a time blurb of 10-30 seconds somewhere in the video, probably at the beginning somewhere.

I don't know. I hate advertisements in general. Though i also tend to skip long advertisements to get straight to the content. Decent advertisements blend in with the content or as you say are at the end sorta resuming where the content left off at... sorta...
Well I don't know if The Irishman is gonna be "woke" since Netflix aided in that movie's development.
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fronzelneekburm: I dunno, sounds pretty imperialistic to me. You can think about the Chinese system whatever you want, but it seems to work out exceedingly well for them. They have this thing that has become a distant, fading memory in the West: prosperity. Which is also the reason why Western companies are tripping over themselves to have a piece of the pie. So what makes you think you're in any position to dictate to other countries (let alone the one well on the way to dethrone the US as the number one superpower) what kind of system they're supposed to have?

As for the usual kvetching about muh civil rights: The names Snowden and Assange ring a bell, right? Also, you might want to check out the Socialist Core Values as defined by the Chinese government. Among them you will find such oh-so-Western concepts as "democracy", "freedom", "equality", "justice" and "rule of law". Now you can either stay in your sedated, bluepilled sheeple state and figure "It's a lie when the Chinese use these words!" Or you can realise that governments the world over are just bullshitters who like to throw around these fancy buzzwords in an effort to convince their plundered and exploited wageslave populace that people on the other side of the world have it significantly worse than them.
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StingingVelvet: You're insane if you think a dictatorship with reeducation camps and massive censorship is something to be accepted or positively compared to Western democracies. I see you live in China, and I'm sorry to be so blunt with you, but you have no idea what you're talking about. I hope one day you experience freedom.
What makes you think that your beliefs constitute factual reality?

Thought you were better than this, bruh. Very disappointing.
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rtcvb32: Undoubtedly some do. I wonder how much of it is contractually obligated... Though i'd figure most of them would have a time blurb of 10-30 seconds somewhere in the video, probably at the beginning somewhere.
Most of the ones that talk about it say they can pick and choose offers from people if they;re popular enough, and take the ones they want. Once taken, then have to work to make the ads like they want but also a certain way for the people who sponsor those spots.

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rtcvb32: I don't know. I hate advertisements in general. Though i also tend to skip long advertisements to get straight to the content. Decent advertisements blend in with the content or as you say are at the end sorta resuming where the content left off at... sorta...
Some are funny and put at the end of videos, like the guy who does the pitch meeting skits, and a few others.
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richlind33: What makes you think that your beliefs constitute factual reality?

Thought you were better than this, bruh. Very disappointing.
I don't really care if you're disappointed. Democracy, free speech, not locking minorities up in camps... these are objectively good things. Dictatorships, government censorship of all dissent, ethnic cleansing... these are objectively bad things. There's a ton of room for debate about the West's own problems and how certain political issues should be decided, but there's no room for arguing the positives of China's human rights. Sorry. Same for how women and homosexuals are treated in many countries. There are objective wrongs in this world.
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StingingVelvet: Globalists need to understand it's a slow process and not every culture/country deserves respect. I dream of a Star Trek style one people future as well, but you can't pretend that's the case today when some countries are literal dictatorships with no civil rights. That's not something to "accept" or "tolerate," it's something to be defeated so we can have a more global world in the future.
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GameRager: Every culture(or most) deserve respect....it's often the gov'ts that do not...especially in the case of the gaming censorship.

As for global worlds.....sounds good as long as the various countries can keep what makes them unique(including their own local gov'ts and customs) and not be forced into one "mold" like in the EU countries.

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BStone: Oh, and China is the most dangerous nation on earth. An evil dragon that no one should have anything to do with, but the big boys (Google, M$, etc.), as well as Made-in-China companies, are going to sell out the world to them. Better dead than Red.
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GameRager: It's not the people(mostly) that are the problem, but the leadership.

Also a bit of advice: Try not to post too many lines like the first and last ones above or word them more subtly, or the dragon that is the gog staff might pounce on you at some point(they dislike even strong politics talk in gaming related threads).
This thread is a political thread.
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StingingVelvet: You're insane if you think a dictatorship with reeducation camps and massive censorship is something to be accepted or positively compared to Western democracies. I see you live in China, and I'm sorry to be so blunt with you, but you have no idea what you're talking about. I hope one day you experience freedom.
Not to nag or rag on ANYBODY, but i'd imagine hearing such things over and over from birth(propaganda) drills it into one's brain, and i'm glad I at least have a brain that can filter through most of the lies & a system where I can express my displeasure without being(in most cases) shot/locked up/etc.
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richlind33: What makes you think that your beliefs constitute factual reality?

Thought you were better than this, bruh. Very disappointing.
Reality is what you make of it, and even if it's all an illusion i'd rather it be a more "free" one than what some countries offer.

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BStone: This thread is a political thread.
Yes, but if people go too into politics staff can and often does delete posts/ban people/etc. I was just trying to make sure you or no one else gets such treatment.
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StingingVelvet: I don't really care if you're disappointed. Democracy, free speech, not locking minorities up in camps... these are objectively good things. Dictatorships, government censorship of all dissent, ethnic cleansing... these are objectively bad things. There's a ton of room for debate about the West's own problems and how certain political issues should be decided, but there's no room for arguing the positives of China's human rights. Sorry. Same for how women and homosexuals are treated in many countries. There are objective wrongs in this world.
Good post/points.....too bad all dictatorships cannot be like the ending of B.A.S.S. :\
Post edited November 03, 2019 by GameRager
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BStone: This thread is a political thread.
And which major company banning a player and starting all this shit's fault is it?

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Elmofongo: Well I don't know if The Irishman is gonna be "woke" since Netflix aided in that movie's development.
Perhaps. Though a lot of 'woke' series that are seemingly put out under Netflix as of recent. Not saying everything has it, but multiple 'netflix original series' i've seen have woke ideology peppered in. Especially 'See you yesterday'. Ugg that was so full of BS, i had to stop less than halfway through. The only good part was the teacher at the very beginning was Michael J Fox as a cameo.


But have to see, maybe they will have more series that actually earn it money. Last two series people cared about were game of thrones and Stranger things. And i've heard many suggestions to get a 1 month subscription, binge watch the seasons and be done with it.

I personally get annoyed at NetFlix where 'Watch How to train your dragon legends' and i'm like 'okay, let's first watch the original movie(s) first' and... they aren't there... I hate watching things out of order and so many things on NetFlix i probably won't touch.
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richlind33: What makes you think that your beliefs constitute factual reality?

Thought you were better than this, bruh. Very disappointing.
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StingingVelvet: I don't really care if you're disappointed. Democracy, free speech, not locking minorities up in camps... these are objectively good things. Dictatorships, government censorship of all dissent, ethnic cleansing... these are objectively bad things. There's a ton of room for debate about the West's own problems and how certain political issues should be decided, but there's no room for arguing the positives of China's human rights. Sorry. Same for how women and homosexuals are treated in many countries. There are objective wrongs in this world.
I think you're a hypocrite, because it is your own precious "democracy" that has for decades propped up the worst of the worst when it comes to regimes showing no regard at all for human rights. This isn't debatable, our government's own published history of foreign intervention lays much of it out in great detail, as do heros like General Smedley Butler.

https://www.ratical.org/ratville/CAH/warisaracket.html

Get off your high horse and stop indulging your pathetic delusions of cultural superiority; and while you're at it, apologize to this forum for your immature outburst.
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richlind33: I think you're a hypocrite, because it is your own precious "democracy" that has for decades propped up the worst of the worst when it comes to regimes showing no regard at all for human rights. This isn't debatable, our government's own published history of foreign intervention lays much of it out in great detail, as do heroes like General Smedley Butler.
Democracy isn't the problem..it's the ones who wield the power. All systems and things can be corrupted, and to lay blame on a system for the things brought about by those in charge seems dubious at best.
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richlind33: What makes you think that your beliefs constitute factual reality?

Thought you were better than this, bruh. Very disappointing.
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GameRager: Reality is what you make of it, and even if it's all an illusion i'd rather it be a more "free" one than what some countries offer.
Freedom only exists when it's exercised. The greatest method of enslavement, by far, is to convince people that they are "free" by constitutional decree, and can best maintain it by the slavish worship of garish simulacra.
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richlind33: I think you're a hypocrite, because it is your own precious "democracy" that has for decades propped up the worst of the worst when it comes to regimes showing no regard at all for human rights. This isn't debatable, our government's own published history of foreign intervention lays much of it out in great detail, as do heroes like General Smedley Butler.
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GameRager: Democracy isn't the problem..it's the ones who wield the power. All systems and things can be corrupted, and to lay blame on a system for the things brought about by those in charge seems dubious at best.
There is no democracy when people haven't got the moral wherewithal to hold power accountable. That you don't grasp this rudimentary truth shows very clearly that your opinions on this subject are singularly uninformed.
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richlind33: Freedom only exists when it's exercised. The greatest method of enslavement, by far, is to convince people that they are "free" by constitutional decree, and can best maintain it by the slavish worship of garish simulacra.
Eh, if that's enslavement i'll take it over the chinese system. At least here we have means to rebel should we need to, and we can talk on some things without being arrested in mass waves.

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richlind33: There is no democracy when people haven't got the moral wherewithal to hold power accountable.
There is, just as there are other things even if people don't wield them right or much. A tree is still a tree whether it is used for building or not....etc.

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richlind33: That you don't grasp this rudimentary truth shows very clearly that your opinions on this subject are singularly uninformed.
Or maybe just maybe, I am more optimistic and don't want to live my life in a constant state of being depressed about life and society?
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richlind33: Freedom only exists when it's exercised. The greatest method of enslavement, by far, is to convince people that they are "free" by constitutional decree, and can best maintain it by the slavish worship of garish simulacra.
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GameRager: Eh, if that's enslavement i'll take it over the chinese system. At least here we have means to rebel should we need to, and we can talk on some things without being arrested in mass waves.

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richlind33: There is no democracy when people haven't got the moral wherewithal to hold power accountable.
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GameRager: There is, just as there are other things even if people don't wield them right or much. A tree is still a tree whether it is used for building or not....etc.

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richlind33: That you don't grasp this rudimentary truth shows very clearly that your opinions on this subject are singularly uninformed.
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GameRager: Or maybe just maybe, I am more optimistic and don't want to live my life in a constant state of being depressed about life and society?
If I was wrong in what I said of you you'd understand that there are alternatives other than Western "democracy" or Chinese "socialism". You'd also understand that when power grows beyond what a people can hold accountable, there is only one possibility, and it isn't democracy.

Taking potshots at other groups of people doesn't reflect a person who is optimistic and well-adjusted; it reflects a person who is ignorant and miserable, and has no stomach for cognitive dissonance.
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richlind33: Taking potshots at other groups of people doesn't reflect a person who is optimistic and well-adjusted; it reflects a person who is ignorant and miserable, and has no stomach for cognitive dissonance.
People can be critical of things they dislike(that doesn't automatically by default make them wrong or a bad person), and as for cognitive dissonance...well let's just say you seem to also be an exemplar of such by calling other unformed/wrong/etc so quickly and easily while basically tuning your nose up at other people's POV. It also reeks of smugness and egotism.
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richlind33: Taking potshots at other groups of people doesn't reflect a person who is optimistic and well-adjusted; it reflects a person who is ignorant and miserable, and has no stomach for cognitive dissonance.
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GameRager: People can be critical of things they dislike(that doesn't automatically by default make them wrong or a bad person), and as for cognitive dissonance...well let's just say you seem to also be an exemplar of such by calling other unformed/wrong/etc so quickly and easily while basically tuning your nose up at other people's POV. It also reeks of smugness and egotism.
Goodbye.