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richlind33: What makes you think that your beliefs constitute factual reality?

Thought you were better than this, bruh. Very disappointing.
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StingingVelvet: I don't really care if you're disappointed. Democracy, free speech, not locking minorities up in camps... these are objectively good things. Dictatorships, government censorship of all dissent, ethnic cleansing... these are objectively bad things. There's a ton of room for debate about the West's own problems and how certain political issues should be decided, but there's no room for arguing the positives of China's human rights. Sorry. Same for how women and homosexuals are treated in many countries. There are objective wrongs in this world.
I think you're a hypocrite, because it is your own precious "democracy" that has for decades propped up the worst of the worst when it comes to regimes showing no regard at all for human rights. This isn't debatable, our government's own published history of foreign intervention lays much of it out in great detail, as do heros like General Smedley Butler.

https://www.ratical.org/ratville/CAH/warisaracket.html

Get off your high horse and stop indulging your pathetic delusions of cultural superiority; and while you're at it, apologize to this forum for your immature outburst.
Hong Kong is a political issue with China. Why are companies around the world so riled up against Hong Kong protesters? The communist party led Beijing government is a foul authoritarian entity that needs to be challenged not bow to because of obvious human rights and territorial issues.
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thelostdunmer: Hong Kong is a political issue with China. Why are companies around the world so riled up against Hong Kong protesters? The communist party led Beijing government is a foul authoritarian entity that needs to be challenged not bow to because of obvious human rights and territorial issues.
It's not because they(blizzard and others) dislike or disagree with such protestors, but usually because they get money from chinese companies/people because the chinese gov't allows them(blizzard and others) to sell in their country. As such, blizzard and such are "against" the HK protestors mainly to make a quick amount of bucks from chinese citizens by throwing those who support HK and dislike chinese gov't under the proverbial bus.

Addition: And movie companies do it too(some of which also make games)....like: Disney(who limits or hides things like ghosts and lgbt in the movies and such they send to china) and several other film companies.
Post edited November 04, 2019 by GameRager
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My dislike for China aside, I'm kind of amazed by the cultural chauvinism and blissful ignorance from Americans regarding this issue.

I mean for fuck sake, are people really going to bring up democracy? Really? What does that even mean in this context? It's a buzzword that means shit, it's even used to justify bombing people to smithereens. But China is bad because you know muh democracy and muh freedom.

But hey, at least you get this warm, fuzzy feeling when you say it and hear it. Who cares what it means?
Post edited November 04, 2019 by DadJoke007
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thelostdunmer: Hong Kong is a political issue with China. Why are companies around the world so riled up against Hong Kong protesters? The communist party led Beijing government is a foul authoritarian entity that needs to be challenged not bow to because of obvious human rights and territorial issues.
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GameRager: It's not because they(blizzard and others) dislike or disagree with such protestors, but usually because they get money from chinese companies/people because the chinese gov't allows them(blizzard and others) to sell in their country. As such, blizzard and such are "against" the HK protestors mainly to make a quick amount of bucks from chinese citizens by throwing those who support HK and dislike chinese gov't under the proverbial bus.

Addition: And movie companies do it too(some of which also make games)....like: Disney(who limits or hides things like ghosts and lgbt in the movies and such they send to china) and several other film companies.
I guess that's the real reason behind it. For fear of losing investors and sizeable market.
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DadJoke007: My dislike for China aside, I'm kind of amazed by the cultural chauvinism and blissful ignorance from Americans regarding this issue.

I mean for fuck sake, are people really going to bring up democracy? Really? What does that even mean in this context? It's a buzzword that means shit, it's even used to justify bombing people to smithereens. But China is bad because you know muh democracy and muh freedom.
How is it ignorance to see bad things and want them to change? Or are you trying to say something else that I am not getting?

Yes, we know bad things happen in america too, but some countries have it much worse & the most some of us can do(who are effectively powerless to stop it) is complain about it on the internet and wish for better(while others are too afraid to rock the boat here for fear of upsetting their bread and circuses).

As for democracy justifying b*mbing others....what if they are objectively bad and we cannot talk them out of it....should we just let them do what they will and not try to help anyone ever or what? Or do you mean the useless wars for oil/etc?
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thelostdunmer: I guess that's the real reason behind it. For fear of losing investors and sizeable market.
The thing is they are alienating a good chunk of their market here and elsewhere by doing so, so at some point they will have to make a choice like the creators of south park did and others did......keep that chinese market and money and risk losing more elsewhere, or bite the hand that feeds and possibly grow the rest of your user base.
Post edited November 04, 2019 by GameRager
Here in the Philippines not all are as accommodating as Duterte to the Chinese government. The average Filipino is aware of the intrusions and shady dealings of China. It may appear that Duterte is friendly to the Chinese but the military and most of Filipinos are fed up with the lies and deceit being served daily on national propaganda television.
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DadJoke007: My dislike for China aside, I'm kind of amazed by the cultural chauvinism and blissful ignorance from Americans regarding this issue.

I mean for fuck sake, are people really going to bring up democracy? Really? What does that even mean in this context? It's a buzzword that means shit, it's even used to justify bombing people to smithereens. But China is bad because you know muh democracy and muh freedom.
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GameRager: How is it ignorance to see bad things and want them to change? Or are you trying to say something else that I am not getting?

Yes, we know bad things happen in america too, but some countries have it much worse & the most some of us can do(who are effectively powerless to stop it) is complain about it on the internet and wish for better(while others are too afraid to rock the boat here for fear of upsetting their bread and circuses).

As for democracy justifying b*mbing others....what if they are objectively bad and we cannot talk them out of it....should we just let them do what they will and not try to help anyone ever or what? Or do you mean the useless wars for oil/etc?
If only people like you got this excited about improving your *own* nation. Because *then* you would have a measure of moral authority, and could call out others without being a hypocrite.

"Let he who is without sin cast the first stone".

Try it sometime.