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General discussionBioshock Infinite just got a Linux version. Any progress on bringing 2K to GOG?(156 posts)(156 posts)
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Posted March 19, 2015
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pimpmonkey2382.313: Yet you're here too? I don't get it.
He's a Windows troll. Nothing more. Best to simply ignore him.
Posted March 19, 2015
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Johnathanamz: I prefer Windows Digital Rights Management (DRM) over Linux.
Now you've piqued my interest! I'm curious as to why you would prefer DRM, and why the hatred for Linux?
Posted March 19, 2015
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Johnathanamz: I prefer Windows Digital Rights Management (DRM) over Linux.
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hummer010: Now you've piqued my interest! I'm curious as to why you would prefer DRM, and why the hatred for Linux?
I explained why I do not care about Linux at all.

Arguing too much over this topic. Don't feel like arguing anymore just stop replying back.
Posted March 19, 2015
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hummer010: Welcome to the free-side! What distro?
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pimpmonkey2382.313: Was using ubuntu 14.10, but I'll be rolling back to mint 13 soon.
I swapped back and forth between Ubuntu and Debian for 8 years, before making the jump to Arch two years ago. You really can't go wrong with the Debian based distros.
Posted March 19, 2015
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pimpmonkey2382.313: Was using ubuntu 14.10, but I'll be rolling back to mint 13 soon.
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hummer010: I swapped back and forth between Ubuntu and Debian for 8 years, before making the jump to Arch two years ago. You really can't go wrong with the Debian based distros.
Slowly but surely getting the hang of it. And quite enjoy doing it.
Posted March 19, 2015
How optimized are graphically intensive games like this though? I would love to see some comparison reports. I haven't decided what OS I want to use on my new PC build.
Posted March 19, 2015
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opticq: How optimized are graphically intensive games like this though? I would love to see some comparison reports. I haven't decided what OS I want to use on my new PC build.
Depends on the game. When The Witcher 2 was first released, it was pretty poor, but it has improved a lot since then. That port was done by the same people as this BioShock port.
Posted March 19, 2015
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opticq: How optimized are graphically intensive games like this though? I would love to see some comparison reports. I haven't decided what OS I want to use on my new PC build.
It indeed depends on the port. Native ports have higher chances of taking the full advantage of OpenGL, but it still depends on developers' skill. With Vulkan coming however situation will improve, since there will be a potential to use hardware to full parallelism capacity.

You don' t need to have a mutually exclusive choice until you are ready for full switch though. For example get two hard drives and install several OSes in parallel (it's cleaner and more flexible to install each OS on its own hard drive rather than using one for both). Then just dualboot for whatever purpose you need until you are ready to switch.
Post edited March 19, 2015 by shmerl
Posted March 21, 2015
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shmerl: Yeah, considering that both Unreal Engine 4 and Cry Engine support Linux now. I'm sure developers added Linux support there just for fun and not because it's actually needed ;) And it must be also fun to reduce your own sales by not releasing to all supported platforms.
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Johnathanamz: I know both Unreal Engine 4 and CryEngine support Linux. I don't have to add Linux support to my video game if I don't want to though I can develop my video game exclusively for Windows only and sell for Windows only.
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sherringon456: Gabe newell is a hypocrite. I remember reading him saying something about windows 10 or windows 8 somewhere where he said he feared windows was becoming a closed platform and that steam OS would be 'open'. Now, an operating system, which as far as I know only lets you play steam games, now that is really open isn't it...
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Johnathanamz: Gabe Newell has been a hypocrite for a few years now since about 2010.
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adamhm: On the subject of Win10:

Pirates Can Legitimately Upgrade To Windows 10 For Free

Makes me *very* suspicious of it. What's the catch? Bare install with microtransactions to attain full functionality? Spyware/adware infested?

I've heard this exact argument many times before, but for Steam's DRM (which isn't really that dissimilar to Windows' product activation, aside from being account based and not having an option for activation via phone). No DRM > some DRM; doesn't matter how light or "unintrusive" the DRM is.

Also Microsoft eagerly joined the NSA's 'PRISM' surveillance program (they were the first to sign up).

There's nothing stopping someone from installing non-Steam software on SteamOS; it's basically just another Debian-based distro, but with Steam etc. preinstalled and a custom UI.
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Johnathanamz: I prefer Windows Digital Rights Management (DRM) over Linux. Windows Digital Rights Management (DRM) has not caused me any problems yet. I will never touch Linux I will be purchasing video games on Windows only.
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adamhm: Going back to this post, I'd like to point out that just because you don't have to pay money for Linux / open source software doesn't mean you can't pay for it; there are many ways to "pay" for Linux/OSS and most of them do not involve any money changing hands:

1- Just merely *using* Linux/OSS is itself of value - by using it you increase its market share, in turn making it a more viable target for developers which in turn will make it more attractive for other potential users (some of whom will then contribute further, see points #2, #3, #4 and #5 below).

2- You can provide bug reports, feedback and suggestions, helping make it better for all users and more attractive to potential new users (see point #1).

3- You can introduce others to Linux/OSS and help them start using it (point #1), and you can help support other existing users & identify bugs/things that can be improved (see point #2).

4- If you have the skills then you can contribute code and/or other assets, making it more attractive to potential new users (see point #1).

5- And if you really want to pay money then you can make donations to distro maintainers and developers, allowing them to dedicate more time to working on the development of their software.
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Johnathanamz: I really do not care about your 5 points.

Windows 10 you can provide bug reports, feedback, and suggestions as well.
Agreed, i'd prefer windows or certain games with DRM than no windows or certain games at all.
Post edited March 21, 2015 by sherringon456
Posted March 21, 2015
Considering thing that they released Bioshock drm-free in Humble Bundle....maybe on GOG too?
Posted March 21, 2015
Linux + Wine= Unbeatable combo.
Posted March 21, 2015
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Redfern: Considering thing that they released Bioshock drm-free in Humble Bundle....maybe on GOG too?
Yeah but how old is the game?. Im pretty cynical but many of these big publishers will only even contemplate drm free once they've squeezed the last drop out of the drm'ed versions
Posted March 21, 2015
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Redfern: Considering thing that they released Bioshock drm-free in Humble Bundle....maybe on GOG too?
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Niggles: Yeah but how old is the game?. Im pretty cynical but many of these big publishers will only even contemplate drm free once they've squeezed the last drop out of the drm'ed versions
Thats modern business, unfortunately. As i wrote in other topic, in last years, "usual" practice is to release game for Windows and ONLY on Steam (Origin for some), and maybe after "significant" delay - drm-free. Its now normal even for crowdfunded or many top indie games.
OFC such scheme is only helping to spread Steam even more and only principal fanatics refuse to "join Dark\Light Side". You want to play new game? Register on Steam. No option.
Only when steam sales drops to near zero they consider to rerelease it drm-free.
Posted March 22, 2015
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Redfern: Considering thing that they released Bioshock drm-free in Humble Bundle....maybe on GOG too?
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Niggles: Yeah but how old is the game?. Im pretty cynical but many of these big publishers will only even contemplate drm free once they've squeezed the last drop out of the drm'ed versions
Why can't they squeeze last drops from all versions at once including DRM-free ones? Some just don't like money as much as they appear.
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Redfern: Thats modern business, unfortunately. As i wrote in other topic, in last years, "usual" practice is to release game for Windows and ONLY on Steam (Origin for some), and maybe after "significant" delay - drm-free. Its now normal even for crowdfunded or many top indie games.
Not that I know. All crowdfunded games I paid attention to had DRM-free releases form day one. And I wouldn't support any game which doesn't promise a DRM-free release.

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Redfern: OFC such scheme is only helping to spread Steam even more and only principal fanatics refuse to "join Dark\Light Side".
Voting with your wallet is not fanaticism, it's a normal practice. If anything, those who support DRMed releases by buying them can blame themselves for DRM still being in use.
Post edited March 22, 2015 by shmerl
Posted March 22, 2015
New concerns regarding Windows 10 and secure boot:

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=SecoreBoot-Windows-10
http://www.phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?116088-SecureBoot-on-Windows-10-computers-may-not-be-disable-able
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