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PetrusOctavianus: In those days nerds mades games, nerds played games, and games were meant to be a challenge.
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ET3D: Back in those days, games didn't provide real story or characters, or much in terms of AI or other gameplay elements, so they had to resort to cartography. Yeah, I'm exaggerating, but if you say that mapping was half the fun, that implies that the rest of the gameplay wasn't that much fun.
Bard's Tale had fun gameplay; the only problem was the insane random encounter frequency.
As for real story and characters, for that I read books. It's a pity modern games focus so much on story and characters when books and movies are better media for that.
This is good news!
Hopefully they'll have something substantial to show us when they launch that kickstarter.
I can only assume it will be as sloppy as Wasteland 2.
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PetrusOctavianus: As for real story and characters, for that I read books. It's a pity modern games focus so much on story and characters when books and movies are better media for that.
To each his own. I (and many others) prefer games with good story and characters.
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Elmofongo: Too soon man. I prefer they make another Arcanum like game.
I want that too.

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Austrobogulator: I can only assume it will be as sloppy as Wasteland 2.
In what way was it sloppy?
The picture used for the title looks a bit cartoon-ish. I hope the graphics
won't be too kiddy. :P
Attachments:
title.jpg (48 Kb)
*pulls out the graph paper*

Bring it on. :)
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Roxolani: Good
No news about Wasteland 3?
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Elmofongo: Too soon man. I prefer they make another Arcanum like game.
I agree it's too soon. But when there is no news about Fallout 4, I'll wait for the next Wasteland.
Is there already some sort of video? Couldn't find anything... ):
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PetrusOctavianus: As for real story and characters, for that I read books. It's a pity modern games focus so much on story and characters when books and movies are better media for that.
Because we can't have great stories and characters in all three?
Darn, I lost my Bard's Tale cred by getting the year of the remake wrong. In all fairness I only played it two years ago and just assumed the date from the article was correct.

I think part of the reason the graph paper seemed okay at the time was that I still played pencil and paper D&D at the time. This just seemed like a natural extension of that. Hopefully they don't feel the need to go that retro.
Post edited January 25, 2015 by marsrunner
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marsrunner: Loved the 2009 Bard's Tale, but will be nice to have a real sequel. I also remember days and nights in front of my Commodore 64 with pencil and graph paper playing these awesome games.
You are not the only one. When I wasn't trying to run a BBS on the machine I was playing Bards Tale or Pirates
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PetrusOctavianus: As for real story and characters, for that I read books. It's a pity modern games focus so much on story and characters when books and movies are better media for that.
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Breja: Because we can't have great stories and characters in all three?
Of course we can. But once in a while it would be nice to see some modern games where the emphasis is more on game than story. Old CRPGs had hardly any story, but the good ones had either good exploration, good puzzles, good combat or a combination thereof.
And as I've said books and movies are better media for telling stories anyway.
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Maxvorstadt: All my friends back then used the maps that were printed in gaming magazines. I can remember when a friend of mine and I were trying to draw the map by ourselves, just for fun. But guess what? It was a total catastrophy and no fun at all!
Can't speak of Bard's Tale, but I completed Might and Magic II yesterday. Draw my own map for every location (about 60) and I can tell you that it was a lot of fun. And I'm pretty sure that my maps are much more accurate than any maps I've seen on the internet.

So I would say that drawing good maps can be good fun. :)
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hellmonster67: Sir , I disagree with you as my fondest memories as a child was mapping out dungeons on graph paper for Sega Master system games Phantasy Star 1 and Miracle Warriors ... lol then Bards Tale and Wizardry on my 286 12 Mghz CPU lol
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Maxvorstadt: Well, and I disagree with you. :-) All my friends back then used the maps that were printed in gaming magazines. I can remember when a friend of mine and I were trying to draw the map by ourselves, just for fun. But guess what? It was a total catastrophy and no fun at all!
Maybe that´s the fundamental difference between germans and americans: We want to have a good map, you want to draw it.
Hmm, maybe that`s also the reason for all the american soldiers all around the world:
They didn`t find home cause they had no maps!
Just kidding! :-)
Lol.. just giving a hard time.. I would not have the patience at all anymore to hand draw maps.. I even cheat now when I play old gold box games and get an auto-mapper or write a simple program to do it ..