gamesfreak64: The Dutch will drag all info from any source starting 2018 jan the first... so if they can have it without us givng our consent, then any company that sells us games should have it aswell:
laser_eyes: I don't understand what this means. Would you mind explaining.
no i dont mind, i try to explain best as possible .
I assume you know that most countries tracked every online move of the people, which sites they visited , social media, etc etc etc ... already from the beginning.
Some countries dont allow internet, and some do but block certain sites to prevent people reading things they don't want to read.
The thing is now with all the 'attacks' and whats been going on lately, the Dutch Govt decided that by dragging the net
sleepwet in Dutch they will be able to anticipate what might come regarding some 'things', they believe that 'naughty' people that might do very bad things will use internet communciations , ofcourse the bad guys can read anything the govt says in the news aswell so they probably wont be using that and maybe start sending mail by airmail via pigeons like in the medieval ages, and have personal meetings face to face like many critics already mentioned when talking about this bad idea of the law to drag data (sleepwet).
Basically its probably like this: in a democracy people have lots of freedom, they vote anonimous, people do have to id themselves when they vote but voting in general is anonimous, no one knows who voted on which party, imagine what they would find out when 'dragging' all data.
Govts will never admit that but somehow they would love to know everything, they have referenda but they dont like people to say no when they want yes and vice versa, so this law will allow them to know everything, which might not be that bad but doing so they do violate some rules, seems there is a 'rule' or 'law':
European fundamental rights.
Its quite complicated and the AIV insures and claims they wont be looking for people doing naughty things like snooping around if people download certain things but in the meantime they know everything and who guarantees they wont abuse it ? lots of people dont really trust Govts they always lie in a way and yes = no and no = yes so its the govts own fault that there is little trust.
Anyway the petition is done so basically a referendum might be held , somewhere in march 2018, thing is the law will be active starting jan 1 st 2018.... so some govt people like mr. Buma (not the BUMA/STEMRA) said he will ignore it, and he also said the other parties vvd and cu agree with him, so its a mess at the moment and they will mess it up even more.
This proves that the good old 70s and 80s were indeed the better decades compared to the millenium (2000 and up )
Thats why i said that the little info game companies collect like account info email info and some IP, is nothing compared to all the data our own Govt going to collect which they would never see. so they can have it :D
the govts are the ones harvesting data and ofcourse they will look in it..... :D
take yahoo, they already collected lots of data before and now verizon took over they announced to harvest even more :D i need the mail for my games like gog and online browsergames so let them harvest all they know is ip, location and maybe a mobile nr thats all.