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This made me laugh - so it's good:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKXrWazptvo
And why is the OP "low rated"?
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Densetsu: First three books are prime work of fantasy, worth reading and stopping there.

Feast for Crows hasn't got much going on, so it will appeal to some and not to others. To me it was mediocre work. Dance with Dragons is dull trash fantasy, I only managed to get about 200 pages in before abandoning it. I will probably never read it.

This saga will only get finished as BBC series and not as literary work, I think.
^This. I found Feast for Crows dull and barely readable. Martin should have finished book 3, dropped the mic and walked away. Instead he started believing the hype. Now it's all just a big video game cosplay jerkoff for 16 year old Lord of the Rings fans.
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PetrusOctavianus: Three first three books are the best fantasy books I've read.
The fourth is a mixed bag, with half of it being great and the rest meh.
Fifth book has a few good chapters.
Totally agree with this, although I can understand people stopping reading the fifth because IIRC the best chapters were at the end of the book.

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mobutu: I'll read the books when the saga is complete, in 2020 or something (haven't watched the tv show and don't plan to)
Good luck with that. Look at the exponential progression of publication dates and expect something more like 2030. And I don't even want to start the topic of the guy's age, health, etc, because it can turn quickly into disrespect, but well, since he started publishing books 5-6 years apart the possibility that the series will never be finished (by him) has been there.

Still, if you haven't watched the show, I'd still recommend reading the first 3 books irrespective of the saga being finished or not.
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yogsloth: I haven't read the books (although I own them, and they sit on the shelf waiting for me to get around to them) or seen any of the show, but my understanding is the books are deep, involved, complex fantasy novels, while the show is about tits.
You don't like the bad pussy?
I tried the books, knowing nothing about the TV show. I'm afraid to say that I only got as far as halfway through a clash of kings, I sort of let it go after.

The biggest problem was that the books kind of portray that medieval setting rather appropriately gruesomely with rape, torture and horribleness all round, which really isn't my cup of tea at all, me being the emphatic softy I am ;)

That said, dialogue is rather witty in many places, and while I think that all the plotting and intrigue stuff was a bit overcalled, considering what I actually read in the books, it was very coherent and thought out (or, enough for me). The story switches perspective many times and gives a good view of the different things going on at the same time for different protagonists. and incidentally, yes, there is a lot of sexual communion going on. But it's rather dry really, if you want a cynical fantastic/surrealist novel filled with tits and whateverelsenot I'd rather recommend a Rushdie

I guess it would be best to just try, really.

I'm currently trying gormenghast and I like it a great deal more, the writing is a bit more juicy and evocative, the characters are great and the intrigue engine is slowly becoming active in the part of the book I'm currently at. It might be a good alternative.

If you prefer lighter court intrigue and medieval stuff, than James Clavell has some jewels set in medieval Japan (Shogun). Might not be relevant, but I'm just (already) shoving a few comparisons and alternatives your way...
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markrichardb: One of the biggest differences is that the novel series introduces a lot of new characters a few books in to move along the plot, and almost all of them can be described as ‘stoic’, which is code for boring. Meanwhile the show gives these tasks to established characters and relies on their entertaining chemistry. To be honest Game of Thrones marks the only instance where I’ve preferred the visual media over the written one.
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Crosmando: To be honest, there was some things in the recent GoT season that really rubbed me the wrong way, namely the way they killed off/overthrew three lords so easily, I'm talking about Roose Bolton, Prince Doran and Balon Greyjoy. I just thought it was ridiculous how their deaths just happened and there was no resistance or it didn't cause revolt. Like they're supposed to be LORDS yet their deaths are dealt with like they were some commoners. Like how the newcomer guy comes, throws Balon off the bridge, ADMITS HE KILLS HIM in front of everyone, and they don't care and make him King. Same with those Dornish girls killing off Doran, or Ramsey killing his father.

Those were the only things that really bothered me. Also the Faceless Man/Arya stuff in Bravos was boring.
I agree with you. People don't take too kindly to those who would just kill their lord and take over. But if I remember correctly, the Iron Born are an exception because their culture and laws are okay with people just killing each other. They are really just a bunch of pirates, after all. And IMO, the Faceless Man/Arya parts in Bravos was insanely boring. They stretched it out too long.
Post edited July 29, 2016 by macuahuitlgog