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I finished with bad karma and child killer... Also killed everyone who was of no use to me... Basically I was an evil tyrant... Makes a change as when I played Fallout 3 and Fallout New Vegas I was always too good... Also reached level 19... Not too bad as all my experience came from killing mostly innocent citizens... Ha Ha!

Anyone I want to know how you guys did? Karma? Quests? Level? :)
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Weaping_Reaper: I finished with bad karma and child killer... Also killed everyone who was of no use to me... Basically I was an evil tyrant... Makes a change as when I played Fallout 3 and Fallout New Vegas I was always too good... Also reached level 19... Not too bad as all my experience came from killing mostly innocent citizens... Ha Ha!

Anyone I want to know how you guys did? Karma? Quests? Level? :)
I recently finished it for the first time too, but I'm surprised you took so long. I beat it in three days! Then again, I only got to level 14... oh well. I played as a goody-two shoes, as I always do when I play an RPG for the first time. I did a lot of side quests, but I'm pretty sure I missed some. For my first game I was basically your computer genius/brotherhood wannabe (energy weapons, science, and first aid).I had a LOT of fun playing it, and I'm going to replay it as an evil charismatic mastermind next. Or I might do fallout 2 first..... oh the choices we have to make :D
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Weaping_Reaper: I finished with bad karma and child killer... Also killed everyone who was of no use to me... Basically I was an evil tyrant... Makes a change as when I played Fallout 3 and Fallout New Vegas I was always too good... Also reached level 19... Not too bad as all my experience came from killing mostly innocent citizens... Ha Ha!

Anyone I want to know how you guys did? Karma? Quests? Level? :)
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blackakari: I recently finished it for the first time too, but I'm surprised you took so long. I beat it in three days! Then again, I only got to level 14... oh well. I played as a goody-two shoes, as I always do when I play an RPG for the first time. I did a lot of side quests, but I'm pretty sure I missed some. For my first game I was basically your computer genius/brotherhood wannabe (energy weapons, science, and first aid).I had a LOT of fun playing it, and I'm going to replay it as an evil charismatic mastermind next. Or I might do fallout 2 first..... oh the choices we have to make :D
It took me a few days too... I played it a few times before like a few days before as a goody two shoes, pleasing everyone and being a bit too soft... This time I got far into the main quest, about going to the mutant military base and really had second thoughts about my character... In all the Fallouts I've play on PS3 I just mess about with a character for a while see how useful those skills actually are.

I also had to restart a game as I got high radiation in the glow... about 4000... It didn't die but I'd die trying to travel to a doctor as I had no way near enough Rad-Away. Because I usually play Fallout 3 and Vegas on PS3 it was new to me but I thought I'd give the oldies a try... See in those fallouts its easier to see your rad count and you die straight away when hitting 1000.

This time I thought I've never played as an evil character... No long wondering about speeches and helping them out... Just the bullet to the head and XP!

But every Fallout game,my character has high repair, speech and small guns... Always high intelligence, luck and agility... But even when good... If someone gives me lip... I exit speech followed by VATS to the head... You can be good but not a push over... :)

What side quest did you complete?
Post edited January 21, 2011 by Weaping_Reaper
I killed everybody except the Brotherhood of Steel. I don't think I did any sidequests, because I shot everybody in the face. I was so pissed when the ending scoll said the super mutants killed everybody. I did! That credit should have gone to me!
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doccarnby: I killed everybody except the Brotherhood of Steel. I don't think I did any sidequests, because I shot everybody in the face. I was so pissed when the ending scoll said the super mutants killed everybody. I did! That credit should have gone to me!
Haha that made me laugh. For me the mutants killed the hub (don't know how that happened but it did) but nothing else.

I think I did almost every one, but I killed every ghoul I saw in necropolis so....

I think what is great about this game is how almost all the skills are useful during the game. The only bad ones I can think of are first aid (doctor is just a better version) and big guns (not enough of them). In fallout 3, almost all of my characters ended up the same because all tag does is give you a boost, not make it so 1 point increases it 2%, and repair was so vital that a character without it was shooting themselves in the foot. I enjoyed fallout 3, but you could max out every skill in the game no problem! Not to mention the terrible 'almost perfect' perk...
But enough with my ramblings.

IMO I though gambling was completely overpowered, get it above 50%, hold down 1 and 4, and in ten minutes you have 10K+ gold.
Post edited January 21, 2011 by blackakari
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doccarnby: I killed everybody except the Brotherhood of Steel. I don't think I did any sidequests, because I shot everybody in the face. I was so pissed when the ending scoll said the super mutants killed everybody. I did! That credit should have gone to me!
I killed the BOS... That was hard work... I used the tactic shoot one... Exit to the surface... Lock pick the door... Go back down... Shoot another one... Took ages! lol
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doccarnby: I killed everybody except the Brotherhood of Steel. I don't think I did any sidequests, because I shot everybody in the face. I was so pissed when the ending scoll said the super mutants killed everybody. I did! That credit should have gone to me!
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blackakari: Haha that made me laugh. For me the mutants killed the hub (don't know how that happened but it did) but nothing else.

I think I did almost every one, but I killed every ghoul I saw in necropolis so....

I think what is great about this game is how almost all the skills are useful during the game. The only bad ones I can think of are first aid (doctor is just a better version) and big guns (not enough of them). In fallout 3, almost all of my characters ended up the same because all tag does is give you a boost, not make it so 1 point increases it 2%, and repair was so vital that a character without it was shooting themselves in the foot. I enjoyed fallout 3, but you could max out every skill in the game no problem! Not to mention the terrible 'almost perfect' perk...
But enough with my ramblings.

IMO I though gambling was completely overpowered, get it above 50%, hold down 1 and 4, and in ten minutes you have 10K+ gold.
Collect the bobbleheads after you take 'Almost Perfect' and it becomes perfect... Fallout 3 and Vegas are maybe too easy...
Post edited January 22, 2011 by Weaping_Reaper
Well I just started a new game, Going for a lucky gunslinger who always bites off more than he could chew. I played about have the game last night (!) and I'm having fun with him.
I was in an interesting situation though. Remember the 'could you lean into my coat pocket and say that again?' option you have with gizmo? Well I took it this time, killed him and his body guard, and went back to the guy in the general store. For some reason he didn't act as though I killed him, it said I had the vocal confession. I just shrugged and headed out the the guard. Now THIS guy gave me a shouting. Just an interesting thing I found.
Post edited January 22, 2011 by blackakari
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blackakari: Well I just started a new game, Going for a lucky gunslinger who always bites off more than he could chew. I played about have the game last night (!) and I'm having fun with him.
I was in an interesting situation though. Remember the 'could you lean into my coat pocket and say that again?' option you have with gizmo? Well I took it this time, killed him and his body guard, and went back to the guy in the general store. For some reason he didn't act as though I killed him, it said I had the vocal confession. I just shrugged and headed out the the guard. Now THIS guy gave me a shouting. Just an interesting thing I found.
I suppose you still recorded his confession even though Gizmo found you out... I don't know if you failed your speech check or Gizmo wasn't stupid enough to fall for that line...

You also would of killed Gimzo in himself defence... So either way Gizmo slipped up and was rid of like Adrian wanted... I think Adrian was the name of that shop keeper/sheriff wasn't it?

Your an outsider dosen't matter if you didn't do it by the book unlike the Junk Town police.

I didn't understand that last bit fully sorry? :(
Post edited January 23, 2011 by Weaping_Reaper
The guard at the beginning of junktown, the one you have to go to to start the attack on gizmo after the confession, basically kicked me out of junktown for killing gizmo 'unofficially".
Yeah, at first I killed Gizmo after asking him to "say it into my coat" or whatever the line is. Everyone was pissed off at me and said I shouldn't have taken the law into my own hands. Anyway, I just completed it and I realised how broken Unarmed is. I was trying to play like a sort of Kenshiro from Fist of the North Star. At about level 11 or 12 I was killing Nightkin and Super Mutants with one punch to the eyes, which almost always had a 95% chance to hit and only cost 3AP (a regular punch costing a minuscule 2AP).

It's not good to make a game too easy, but just for the hell of it, my set-up was such that I had a 33% chance of criticals, 10 strength, 10 agility and 10 endurance and a high enough gambling skill that I never ran out of money. Seriously get gambling to about 60%, go to a casino and say you'll bet. Then just press "4" (to bet 50 caps) and "1" (bet again) incredibly quickly for as long as you can bear it. You'll lose but you'll win more, sometimes triple your bet, and you can go from a few hundred to tens of thousands in not very long. Then you can buy all the skill books you want from the Hub's library's infinite stock.

Power fist is awesome and fast and when you're generally one-shotting even the most powerful enemies, those 25 small energy cells per "clip" go a long way. The super hammer (whatever it's called - the one from the BoS) is even more powerful and doesn't need ammo. Though of course, it's slower and uses Melee rather than Unarmed.
Post edited February 08, 2011 by Export
I tried playing fallout 1, but ultimately i cant due to the fact that there is a time limit. I can play fallout 2 though cause there is no time limit. Its not that the game is bad, its just that if the whole game is timed then i cant relax, and for any roleplaying game i have to be able to relax.
Well the time limit is part of the storyline, wouldn't really make sense if it wasn't there.

*Minor spoilers to follow.*


Having said that, while you need to hurry up initially (well no you don't, there's ample time) you can make plenty of wiggle room by arranging a water caravan through water merchants. Also, the water chip is found pretty early on through the game and the time limit goes away after that.

So.. just follow the plot for the 1/3 of the game or so. No serious hurry unless you decide to spend a few month sightseeing the desert or do a lot of back and forth traveling through locations you've found. There's time for that as well after the initial water quest is over.

Oh, and if you go into the glow, make sure you have an earlier save in store. ,)
Post edited February 09, 2011 by Jarmo
Oh I didnt know that. So after the main quest is done then you can still play the game and finish all the sidequests. Thats cool. I might have to give it a second try. I thought that the whole main quest revolves around that and that the whole game is timed.
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deathknight1728: Oh I didnt know that. So after the main quest is done then you can still play the game and finish all the sidequests. Thats cool. I might have to give it a second try. I thought that the whole main quest revolves around that and that the whole game is timed.
Not quite... I believe that the game ends after the main quest, but the time limit is only in place for the first part of the main quest. Once you reach that point, about 1/3 of the way through the game, the time limit is lifted.... or maybe it is just extended?

I have heard conflicting reports about whether or not the whole game is timed. Apparently the original version had a second timer that kicks in after you've done that first 1/3 of the game. Then later, they patched out that second time limit, so after you've done the first third of the game, there is no time limit anymore. I'm not sure whether GOG's version has it or not, but apparently the SECOND time limit is so long that it hardly matters, even if it is there. When I played, I thought that it was untimed and I spent as long as I wanted doing side quests and whatever, and I still had no problem.

There are various unofficial mods that affect the time limit, most of them make it more harsh for veteran players.

For the reconrd, I agree with you generally in that I like to be able to take my time in RPGs, and explore and do sidequests. So I was initially quite worried about the time limit in the beginning of the game. But I actually ended up liking it. The sense of urgency made me roleplay more, and kept tension up. Also, it turns out to be plenty of time, even if you don't extend the deadline (which I did not).

I'd highly recommend Fallout 1. I personally liked it better than the second game.
I think the 2nd time limit is many, many years. Even if you mess around to your hearts content and do every side quest, grind for experience and just generally lose yourself in the world, you won't spend more than about 2 in-game years. You'd have to go out of your way by spending a few real hours skipping through the in-game days in order to to run out on in-game time.

Even the first time limit - the one to get the water chip back to Vault 13 - is actually very generous. Without spoiling anything, you go from the Vault to "Place A", Place B", "Place C" and then "Place D" and then, well done, you have the water chip. Each new place is heavily hinted at and added to your in-game map when you ask about it. And you can't help but ask about it if you speak to the obvious NPCs in each of those locations.