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Posted February 17, 2015
Hi, this game looks really appealing to me. It would also be great to play this game on my outdated laptop.

That said I'm wondering if this game still holds up to this day, how is it compared to other EU games in general?
Posted February 17, 2015
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junker154: That said I'm wondering if this game still holds up to this day, how is it compared to other EU games in general?
EU 2 is a direct improvement over it, For the Glory is a direct improvement over EU 2. EU 3 changed things considerably, making the mechanics more sandbox-y and, of course, the 3D engine.

Aesthetically, the early games are quite pleasing and hold up well. They're ideal for outdated laptops - true story ;)
Post edited February 17, 2015 by Spinorial
Posted February 17, 2015
Thanks, I think I'll skip this one for now then.
Posted February 19, 2015
I suspect that EU 2 is on the way.
Posted February 19, 2015
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dudalb: I suspect that EU 2 is on the way.
Of course it is, but even being sure about that (it's just a hunch mind you, I have no inside info) I decided to purchase this first game on day one because:

1) Being very vocal about Paradox getting onboard, so I thought I'd support GOG for achieving it

2) I have no prior experience with the series, so this is a perfect moment to try the first installment without feeling it outdated. Seasoned players seem to agree that each game is better than its predecessor, but for a newbie like me, man this first EU is incredible, I am having a blast.

3) I can take it as a training for further versions

4) I really couldn't wait any longer :D

Of course, if I had budget issues I'd look at it differently
Post edited February 19, 2015 by svmariscal
Posted February 20, 2015
I think you lose nothing at trying the earlier installments of europa universalis, especially the second and for the glory which is the perfected version of one design philosophy before paradox went for the full sandbox experience making this fairly different. EU1-2 compared to EU4 is a completely different experience, the event make it more focused on historical accuracy sometimes in a frustrating way sometimes for the best giving the game more personality and narrative than what the pure gameplay sandbox achieved.
Post edited February 20, 2015 by Narakir
Posted May 03, 2015
I have EU3, and I've tried a couple of times to get into it, but I get frustrated and give up. Are I or II any easier to pick up? I thought trying one of the older games might make a smoother progression to learning the series.
Posted May 03, 2015
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D-Man777: I have EU3, and I've tried a couple of times to get into it, but I get frustrated and give up. Are I or II any easier to pick up? I thought trying one of the older games might make a smoother progression to learning the series.
The mechanis are somewhat simpler, but these games are never easy to get into. Still, EU2 should give you a different, hopefully better, experience.
Posted June 15, 2015
So what do people mean saying about more sandbox mode of EU3 and other later Paradox games? I have almost no experience in Paradox, safe an hour or so in EU-Rome that gave me some frustration and prostration :)
Does it mean that in later installments there are NO historical events? And players may do what they want? And is it good or bad? :)
Posted June 16, 2015
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Rodor: So what do people mean saying about more sandbox mode of EU3 and other later Paradox games? I have almost no experience in Paradox, safe an hour or so in EU-Rome that gave me some frustration and prostration :)
Does it mean that in later installments there are NO historical events? And players may do what they want? And is it good or bad? :)
There are historical events in later titles, but they are made to be less impactful, and the gameplay is more strongly influenced by the random ones and the emergent play of the AI. These games are never truly sandbox (except for the Fantasia scenario and similar), but it's a constant debate as to how rigid their event structures should be. Given how the game is played on a historical map, with historical states, historical rulers, and mostly historical borders, there are a great many people who like to see the borders beyond their influence evolve as historically as possible. As for the players themselves, they can always do whatever they want, but by the very nature of the games, rash aggression is extremely counter-productive ;)
Posted June 16, 2015
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Spinorial: EU 2 is a direct improvement over it, For the Glory is a direct improvement over EU 2. EU 3 changed things considerably, making the mechanics more sandbox-y and, of course, the 3D engine.
So what game you would call the best from the series and why?

I'm not a big admirer of 3D, so from this point EU2 and CK are more appealing to me. Do EU3 and CK2 have some changes that made the gameplay definitely better than before?
Posted June 16, 2015
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Rodor: So what game you would call the best from the series and why?

I'm not a big admirer of 3D, so from this point EU2 and CK are more appealing to me. Do EU3 and CK2 have some changes that made the gameplay definitely better than before?
I'm the last person you want to ask that question, as I've been outspokenly partial towards EU2 and, by extension, FtG. I much prefer them over EU3; EU4 is not really finished yet (still expansions and mechanics to come), but so far I've not liked it much better, either. For the other series, it's a more open question. I'd say CK2 is an improvement over CK1, while Vicky 1 and HoI2 (better yet, Arselan of Democracy or Darkest Hour - they are to HoI2 what FtG is to EU2 ) are still better than their successors. I'm not as well versed in those (and haven't played them with all their expansions), so I can't really promise your preferences will match.

The different series focus on different aspects of government. Vicky and HoI are generally much denser to get into. If you're completely new to Paradox games, EU2/FtG or CK2 are probably the way to go.

Oh yeah, EU:Rome. No idea, never played it :P I gather it's a mishmash of EU and CK mechanics.
Posted June 16, 2015
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Spinorial: I'm the last person you want to ask that question, as I've been outspokenly partial towards EU2 and, by extension, FtG.
Oh, damn, it is YOUR review on the first place on EU2 page... :)

But I can't see For the Glory expansion... So is EU2 not full?
Posted June 17, 2015
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Rodor: Oh, damn, it is YOUR review on the first place on EU2 page... :)

But I can't see For the Glory expansion... So is EU2 not full?
FtG is not an expansion, EU2 is full and fully working. Paradox opened up the old Europa engine for licensing and some modding teams got together to make improvements on the old games. So, FtG is really like EU2.5: something of a fan-patch, with lots of tweaks, fixes, and improvements, but most of those are invisible or not easily noticed. The old game wasn't buggy, mind you, but it still warranted some polish. Similarly, HoI 2 got DH and AoD, which were a bit more distinctive and better commercial successes. I'd recommend all of these, except that I don't know when or if they'll be released on GOG.
Posted June 17, 2015
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Spinorial: Similarly, HoI 2 got DH and AoD, which were a bit more distinctive and better commercial successes. I'd recommend all of these, except that I don't know when or if they'll be released on GOG.
https://www.gog.com/game/hearts_of_iron_ii_complete

I'm just not fond of WW2 much (as well as the firearms age in all). I'd be a big fan of some Ancient Era game on Paradox engine (some Bronze Age, similar to "Chariots of War" game from Slitherine) or even fantasy or sci-fi themed ones...:) Yes, I'm a bit escapist maybe :P
Post edited June 17, 2015 by Rodor
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