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OK, thanks for answering and fair enough.

But you know that you don't have to run it to play any gog games, you can just run it to update your games and then close it, it doesn't run in the background if you don't want it to.

Just saying : )
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DoomSooth: I don't really have a need for Galaxy. I've used it to play Dying Light in co-op but I'd rather not if I could avoid it. Also, Galaxy has two services that run even when Galaxy itself isn't running. Why? When Dying Light isn't being played, I uninstall Galaxy instead of disabling those services.
Those two services don't run if Galaxy isn't runing.
Post edited September 06, 2018 by louitrilobite
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louitrilobite: OK, thanks for answering and fair enough.

But you know that you don't have to run it to play any gog games, you can just run it to update your games and then close it, it doesn't run in the background if you don't want it to.

Just saying : )
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DoomSooth: I don't really have a need for Galaxy. I've used it to play Dying Light in co-op but I'd rather not if I could avoid it. Also, Galaxy has two services that run even when Galaxy itself isn't running. Why? When Dying Light isn't being played, I uninstall Galaxy instead of disabling those services.
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louitrilobite: Those two services don't run if Galaxy isn't runing.
When I last used Galaxy in November, both of those services were running even when I wasn't using Galaxy. I had to disable them or uninstall Galaxy.
As I wrote in the other topic in General Discussion, I will take the mammoth re-downloads over forced-Galaxy use anyday, but there really is no good reason imo why the devs can't provide patches to GOG and GOG provide all patches available to users (without having to ask...I have heard users did successfully contact GOG to get links to old patches no longer available for download, big kudos to GOG for that).

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Ranayna: I wonder how many people are really left that do not want to use Galaxy.
Count my vote as one left who does not want to use Galaxy.

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Ranayna: I do not care about multiplayer at all, but i somewhat understand the need for Galaxy there
I don't. LAN should be the priority over the client if you ask me. Let alone games that have Galaxy client but NOT LAN...
for f&*ks sake, just did a SECOND 45GB download on this game yesterday and it changed again today. how about making sure the game is given time to pick up all the bugs before releasing again, OR doing delta patching. this is past ridiculous.
I just tried "verifying game files" and am now downloading 35 GB again.

TBH this is the worst file validation service out of a game ever :)
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louitrilobite: Why don't people want to use Galaxy?
Because, it's not "required" (check the gamecard) , even for MP , and GOG promised offline installers will remain avaible (except for some MP features, but that's far from the majority of games avaible)

Er installing the client just for patching is ridiculous if you have the base game already installed with an offline installer.

I believe Larian only updates the game files through the client, since it's easier & like (in a way) Steam (i could be wrong since they didn't answered from my e-mail ( sent 10 days ago now...)

And btw it's just GOG who messed up not Larian. But the support only telling me it was a technical issue (nothing more).....

Yeah the offline installer for this game is useless....for the moment. If a player doesn't want to use the client (for a reason or another) it has no choice (for the vast majority of users) to wait till the issue is fixed..but considering GOG's behaviour with patches , there's a chance all offline ones won't be avaible...And i just checked in my library the changelog doesn't even reflect the current version of the game,GOG doesn't have enough staff members ?

Like the original poster, i don't understand why Larian didn't do like the 1st DOS, this is really stupid in this end. I could stil play either the classic version without to have to d/l the enhanced one ....

IWell the only answer given by the support didn't help / gave a lot insights...i don't blame the support at all.
Post edited September 19, 2018 by DyNaer
I agree, what a nonesense that I have to download the whole ~45GB again just for a PATCH! Seriously?!

Gog galaxy is a mess and sucks, I won't install this buggy software, even if it would be without bugs. That is number one reason for buying games at GOG, to not install any stupid client (and of course DRM)

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But just in case I really want to start this game and I currently have no other choice:
Can I use Gog galaxy to update my offline-installed game version? Or will Galaxy download the whole game again one time? And does Galaxy stores an installer somewhere? Some friends using galaxy and always complaint they have to download the whole game a dozen times (for different pc) instead of just loading it once and moving files between pcs)
Post edited September 21, 2018 by Serpens66
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Serpens66: I agree, what a nonesense that I have to download the whole ~45GB again just for a PATCH! Seriously?!

Gog galaxy is a mess and sucks, I won't install this buggy software, even if it would be without bugs. That is number one reason for buying games at GOG, to not install any stupid client (and of course DRM)

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But just in case I really want to start this game and I currently have no other choice:
Can I use Gog galaxy to update my offline-installed game version? Or will Galaxy download the whole game again one time? And does Galaxy stores an installer somewhere? Some friends using galaxy and always complaint they have to download the whole game a dozen times (for different pc) instead of just loading it once and moving files between pcs)
Well just about Galaxy, i can't help at all :

Never installed it, and since they promised to keep offline installers i can live without it, i have already Steam installed, and from my point of view (and it's my choice) there will be only one client for gaming on my PC. But for this game this is just no good, and the support now insists i use the client, what a convenient issue for pushing Galaxy -_-

What are you speaking, shouldn't happend in "theory", but the client is quite young in comparaison to Steam, it will be hard to GOG to catch the Valve's client, since they continue to add functions & improve it (not always in a good way for sure -_-)

Best course of action regarding Galaxy is going there (ihmo) ;
https://www.gog.com/forum/general/gog_galaxy_official_discussion_thread
Post edited September 22, 2018 by DyNaer
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Serpens66: I agree, what a nonesense that I have to download the whole ~45GB again just for a PATCH! Seriously?!

Gog galaxy is a mess and sucks, I won't install this buggy software, even if it would be without bugs. That is number one reason for buying games at GOG, to not install any stupid client (and of course DRM)

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But just in case I really want to start this game and I currently have no other choice:
Can I use Gog galaxy to update my offline-installed game version? Or will Galaxy download the whole game again one time? And does Galaxy stores an installer somewhere? Some friends using galaxy and always complaint they have to download the whole game a dozen times (for different pc) instead of just loading it once and moving files between pcs)
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DyNaer: Well just about Galaxy, i can't help at all :

Never installed it, and since they promised to keep offline installers i can live without it, i have already Steam installed, and from my point of view (and it's my choice) there will be only one client for gaming on my PC. But for this game this is just no good, and the support now insists i use the client, what a convenient issue for pushing Galaxy -_-

What are you speaking, shouldn't happend in "theory", but the client is quite young in comparaison to Steam, it will be hard to GOG to catch the Valve's client, since they continue to add functions & improve it (not always in a good way for sure -_-)

Best course of action regarding Galaxy is going there (ihmo) ;
https://www.gog.com/forum/general/gog_galaxy_official_discussion_thread
Pointless. Discussing such things on forums is totally pointless, end-user opinion doesn't matter in serious projects.
Post edited September 26, 2018 by Sten_MkIIs
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Sten_MkIIs: Pointless. Discussing such things on forums is totally pointless, end-user opinion doesn't matter in serious projects.
Well, i can't say, since i don't use it, but as far i recall devs who's in charge of Galaxy read this topic, it's up to you to decide if it's pointless or not. I just pointed to you the official discussion thread.... my opinion with the client, is simple, they allienate some of their old customers, for not fixing what is a problem since age : patching process and it's worse since the client existts (if you opt for the offline installers).

And i agree to the point, they don't really listen / care.... but they should....
Game crash to blue screen.
Every day new patch.

I will wait 2 years to play this game and hope they will relase edition where really work...

God damn, dev so dump... Good game going into nightmare game becuase idiots who dont know how to create update files program...
I got a reply from GOG support saying they are "working" on patches for the offline installers of DOS2:DE, but I did not get a date or so.

As mentioned earlier, it is GOG that creates the patches for the offline installers, and not the developers. Developers have no control over what appears in the offline installer section.
Considering how the patching for Pathfinder: Kingmaker is handled, i somewhat doubt that the developer has nothing to do with how the patches are presented here.

For Kingmaker the patches are available. They still update the main installer for each patch, but step-by-step patches are available.
I talked to the people here at Larian that upload the game to GOG. Nothing changed in how they upload the game since DOS2 "Classic", which did have patches available for the offline installers. In fact, there is only one way for developers to upload games (and updates) to GOG.
Post edited October 03, 2018 by jmaebe
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jmaebe: I talked to the people here at Larian that upload the game to GOG. Nothing changed in how they upload the game since DOS2 "Classic", which did have patches available for the offline installers. In fact, there is only one way for developers to upload games (and updates) to GOG.
The problem is simple : GOG didn't delivered any local patch so far : official answer : "we are working on the issue"
> makes me ponder ; since almost 1 month o_O ? (yeah sure previous releases / games didn't get all their offline patches vs the galaxy version.)

I contacted Larian too : they deliver update like previously, it's gog wich handles the packaging of installers and patches ....

Also : Larian is working on a big patch, which should be avaible at later point.

with this last point ; i have the impression GOG is just waiting this patch to deliver an offline one, (i could be mistaken), but working on an offline patch shouldn't take so much time.....IF this true ; then they didn't properly informed the support & it's an insult for customers who don't want to use their client. Btw the latest changelog doesn't match the latest build, so we don't know what changed...maybe uf you opt for Galaxy......
Post edited October 05, 2018 by DyNaer