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Bard is weak, but can compensate by complicating things. Wizard Slayer is simply weak, but at least straightforward. The kit must use actual tactics to succeed, like who to attack, with what equipment, in what order and so on.

Despite the kit's description Wizard Slayer actualy can wear a lot of equipment:
- all shields
- all helmets
- all boots
- claw of Kazgaroth as ring (transferable betweenBG1 and 2 officialy). Trouble with its debuff of save? Forget it! Just play a halfling (or dwarf,, but that's worse if you ask me).
- Horn of Kazgaroth (makes life easier in BG1 if needed)
- Amulet of Seldarine.

This last bit of equipment is actualy important, because WS has some natural MR%. Pretty high. Sure, can't wear many equipment toreach100%... Or can it?

So, at lvl 40 it gets 84% MR. This can be boosted in BG2 buying that Sword of Balduran (+10%). For the majority of the game this can be your sword.
You can also gain 5% premanent MR from Machine of Lum. That's 99% MR! And in ToB you can throw away the Sword of Balduran+2 and just wear the Amulet of Seldarine!
Wait, this means you can go full blown evil and be Selfish when it comes to Tear of Baal choices! All the better! With that -2 AC dualwielding is all the more attractive!

Actualy there's a problem with longswords: they are mostly +2. So get that Flail ofAges and specialize for that too!

Other weapons you'll need:
- Mace of Disruption +2 for its negative plain protection (immunity of leveldrain,side with Bodhi for it!)
- Sling of Everard (that one with infinite bullets): easier to hit large size enemies stuck behind a doorway!
- Crom Faeyr. Having problem bashing locks?Here is the solution! Also having problem beating the Chromatic Demon? Equip this, and whirwind its Shamblin Mound form into oblivion!
None of these require any point of prophiciency to make them effective.

Note: stay away from The Answerer. Every boss (where it'd count) is immun to it.

Note on being halfling: one advantage of it (aside like betterstats than dwarves) is, you'll be able to use Mazzy's sword (protects against stun and whatnot). Again, put it in the offhand, no need to specialize using it.

Have problem against Draconis? Try on him the Rod of Reversal!
You fear that 1% chance magic hitting you? Get the Plate of Enkidu! Also protects against backstabbing!
Don't forget to stack up on protection scrolls though.

Another good news is, if you use longswords, you can use Angurvadal. After upgrading it, it turns realy awesome, and even better if you are evil, with Tear of Wrath you'll actualy have 24 STR, even as a halfling! Who needs dwarves with their supersmell when you can be halfling?! An evil, feral halfling of course...! (Also makes Deck of Many Things unnecessary, which WS shouldn't be able to use in the first place.)
Dual to thief. Take UAI.
You don't need to side with Bodhi to get the mace of disruption.
IIRC you get get it from the pool in the northwestern room of her lair. (top level)
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robomagon: Dual to thief. Take UAI.
That's too obvious.
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gnarbrag: You don't need to side with Bodhi to get the mace of disruption.
IIRC you get get it from the pool in the northwestern room of her lair. (top level)
Sure, but to get to the pool you siding the thieves you have to fight vampires. Without immunity to leveldrain.

Btw, with other classes/combinations I still work for Bodhi to gain the Ring of Djinn Summoning.
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robomagon: Dual to thief. Take UAI.
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twillight: That's too obvious.
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gnarbrag: You don't need to side with Bodhi to get the mace of disruption.
IIRC you get get it from the pool in the northwestern room of her lair. (top level)
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twillight: Sure, but to get to the pool you siding the thieves you have to fight vampires. Without immunity to leveldrain.

Btw, with other classes/combinations I still work for Bodhi to gain the Ring of Djinn Summoning.
If you side with the thieves you get an amulet that bestows negative plane protection (and some other effects as well)
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twillight: That's too obvious.

Sure, but to get to the pool you siding the thieves you have to fight vampires. Without immunity to leveldrain.

Btw, with other classes/combinations I still work for Bodhi to gain the Ring of Djinn Summoning.
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gnarbrag: If you side with the thieves you get an amulet that bestows negative plane protection (and some other effects as well)
Which is of no use to a Wizard Slayer...
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gnarbrag: If you side with the thieves you get an amulet that bestows negative plane protection (and some other effects as well)
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robomagon: Which is of no use to a Wizard Slayer...
Unless you dual to thief and take the Use Any Item HLA, which I think is the assumption gnarbrag was working under, given the first quoted message in the post.
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gnarbrag: If you side with the thieves you get an amulet that bestows negative plane protection (and some other effects as well)
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robomagon: Which is of no use to a Wizard Slayer...
yeah, I forgot about that part.
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robomagon: Which is of no use to a Wizard Slayer...
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Daishaclaire: Unless you dual to thief and take the Use Any Item HLA, which I think is the assumption gnarbrag was working under, given the first quoted message in the post.
I don't think there's enough xp in SoA to make that a viable option
Post edited March 29, 2018 by gnarbrag
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Daishaclaire: Unless you dual to thief and take the Use Any Item HLA, which I think is the assumption gnarbrag was working under, given the first quoted message in the post.
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gnarbrag: I don't think there's enough xp in SoA to make that a viable option
There's enough XP in SoA, even without entering Watcher's Keep, to reach like clvl 35+ if played solo.
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gnarbrag: I don't think there's enough xp in SoA to make that a viable option
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twillight: There's enough XP in SoA, even without entering Watcher's Keep, to reach like clvl 35+ if played solo.
Go ahead and run a wizard slayer solo. You deserve what you get. XD
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twillight: There's enough XP in SoA, even without entering Watcher's Keep, to reach like clvl 35+ if played solo.
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Bookwyrm627: Go ahead and run a wizard slayer solo. You deserve what you get. XD
I already did, and enjoyed the experience despite the difficulties.
And I played hardcore,aka.:
- no magic helmets (including Vhailor's Simulacrum)
- no magic boots
- no Claw of Kazgaroth
- no Amulet of Seldarine
- no Horn of Kazgaroth
- no Deck of Many Things
- no magical shields (actualyno shields sinceI could afford 3 in two weapon style)

Did use Rod of Reversal (against Draconis, 2 charges).

I'm docking at Melissan.

Here are my experiences if you need it ( Community Chatterbox > Gaming Zone > Twillight's playings)
Post edited March 29, 2018 by twillight
What I would do Is make a Drow elf Wizard slayer. Give it 65% magic resistance like Viconia with Shadowkeeper, and then you've got a killer character once you climb levels.
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computerdude92: What I would do Is make a Drow elf Wizard slayer. Give it 65% magic resistance like Viconia with Shadowkeeper, and then you've got a killer character once you climb levels.
Unnecessary.
Climbing the levels you get 84% inherent MR, plus 5% from Machine of Lum, reaching 89%. Add Sword of Balduran/Amulet of Seldarine, (or Tear of Bhaal),and you have 99%. Add any combination of the above (plus shields are available too) and you exceed 100%.

Also, if anything bypasses MR, your character willsuffer big time. Shorty races (halfling, dwarf, gnome) are exceeding drows as wizardslayer.

Now the new question is, how to develop a Beast Master? And should we make it Fallen?
I just prefer to have high MR early in the game. I'm too impatient to wait to level 30 and beyond LOL

I don't understand why gnomes out of the shorty bunch are better than a Drow WS. Other than natural Drow MR....
Post edited April 12, 2018 by computerdude92
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computerdude92: I just prefer to have high MR early in the game. I'm too impatient to wait to level 30 and beyond LOL

I don't understand why gnomes out of the shorty bunch are better than a Drow WS. Other than natural Drow MR....
First: drow is not a playable race.

Second: shorties get Saving Throw Bonuses depending on their constitution (maximum -5 at 18 CON).So if a spell/ability bypasses magic resistance (some do), then you'll have to rely on saves. That's where Shorty Bonuses help you.