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Lol, Beamdog employees/fans must be monitoring this thread daily. All new posts got again downvoted within hours. Pathetic behavior that speaks volume about that "company" and their "fans."
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Hi,

I'm working on some interface mods for BGEE and BG2EE that looks like the original BG2 UI.
I'm also starting to get interested in GemRB.

I have to download a pirated version of the original games while I have all the EE games on Steam or Gog.

Beamdog, you don't make me want to work on your games. You are really taking too much advantage of the mythical nature of Baldur's Gate, the goodwill of the fans and their incredible work and support.

You give me the impression that you want to be hated by the IE games fans. So weird.
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leilu: I have to download a pirated version of the original games while I have all the EE games on Steam or Gog.
If you have the EE versions on GOG, you will also have a redeemable key for the original Bioware versions.
Through your browser (not galaxy) select BGEE > Downloads then More then Serial Keys. (see pic)
It will say Baldur's Gate Enhanced Edition, but that is actually the key to add the original version to your library.
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Post edited June 14, 2022 by olnorton
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leilu: I have to download a pirated version of the original games while I have all the EE games on Steam or Gog.
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olnorton: If you have the EE versions on GOG, you will also have a redeemable key for the original Bioware versions.
Through your browser (not galaxy) select BGEE > Downloads then More then Serial Keys. (see pic)
It will say Baldur's Gate Enhanced Edition, but that is actually the key to add the original version to your library.
Thank you. Well hidden.
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Beamdog: We would like to apologize for recent miscommunications regarding the removal of the predecessor products to our Enhanced Edition titles from sale on GOG.

The decision to take Baldur’s Gate, Baldur’s Gate II, Icewind Dale, and most recently, Planescape: Torment from sale on GOG and bundle them with the Beamdog Enhanced Edition titles was a joint decision between the Beamdog and GOG leadership teams, just as it was when the GOG Definitive Edition Bundles were first announced.

At no point was it our intention to appear as if we were shifting the weight of this decision to GOG. Again, we apologize for creating this perception and hope to do a better job of communicating with the GOG community in the future.

We believe that bundling the old titles alongside their newer Enhanced Editions creates a value unique to GOG and allows for owners to enjoy the option of choosing to play the game as it was on release or the versions we have made available.

The team at Beamdog is working to better communicate internally and with members of the community. We appreciate the feedback we’ve received so far and look forward to hearing more from GOG fans.

Sincerely,
The Beamdog Team
You have messed up these games beyond comprehension. I tried to play BGII today, and the Docks have no way to exit them anymore. The district exits do not have the wheels to trigger an exit. You failed to tweak the timers for the quests. You forced what is in essence modded material into the main games, so that players cannot shut it off. You have destroyed excellent, classic games. The least you could have done was leave us the choice of buying the originals, without your forced content and broken content.
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Baldurs_Gate200: I've been playing through the Baldur's Gate games ever since owning the original big boxed versions from way back in the day, lol. I got the enhanced versions of these games as they released off of Beamdog's site itself. I was excited that they were touching the games up, so I wanted to support them directly, so I owned all of the EE games on Beamdog's clitent.

Recently I decided to repurchase all of the EE games on GOG when they went on sale just to have extra versions just in case Beamdog went under or something and it would be impossible to get the games directly from their website anymore. At first, I thought the classic versions were gone but I read they were bundled with the EE version on GOG. My only complaint really, is that it's a bit unintuitive to get access to the classic versions because you have to go to serial keys. I don't think many people would know how to do that without doing research. I believe if they are bundled, then the classics should just pop up along side the EE additions after buying the bundles.

But other than that, I never really saw much issue people had with the EEs. I believe the SJW talk is blown out of proportion. The EE games are the classics with touch ups and maybe a few aesthetic choices people didn't like. I believe most of the hate comes from the expansion Siege of Dragonspear. I played through it and I didn't get that SJW vibe that everyone is talking about, but maybe it was patched out and I missed it? I'm not sure, but I enjoyed the expansion. I wish you had more freedom and more towns to visit, but it's decent for what it is.

I guess if I had one complaint about the EE editions, it's the journal. I thought that the older journal UI was much better and more aesthetically pleasing to the eye than the basic one they added in. I mean, it functions fine, but the older journal UI just felt like it fit in with that world more, IMO.

I've noticed in this thread it's mainly the same few people that are complaining about the EE versions. Honestly I believe the complaints are highly exaggerated and I've played through the originals tons of times. I love the zoom feature, QOL options, scaling UI so that text is easier to read, etc. You can also turn off those sprite outlines and it easily makes it look better than the originals and their low resolution. I do think that most that play these games are satisfied and it's the vocal minority that is blowing the hate out of proportion judging by the same few posters here in this thread alone.

I missed out on the drama with the writer and stuff though, so maybe that's why I'm not as critical. I'm glad I didn't know about what she was saying about the classics, that probably would've flared where I would've done nothing but hate on the EEs, but after doing a few replays over and over, I prefer them to the originals. I believe the people complaining constantly are in the minority though, from what it seems anyway.

I'm not saying that the EE's are perfect, but I do believe the hate is blown way, way out of proportion.

Just my two cents.
I am angry beyond words at not knowing how to access the original games. The Beamdog version are junk in my opinion. It is modded content forced down my throat, and they have built in so many bugs. They also failed to alter the clocking method, so that NPC quests trigger insanely quickly. I really hate these versions. You have your opinion. That does not make other people's opinions exaggerated or invalid. I have been playing these since they were first released and have played the BGs and PlaneScape many times through. I did not play the IWDs as much, because I do not like the linear nature of them.
Post edited May 06, 2022 by Ceana of the Crags
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Geez, all the comments in this thread are still downvoted. Some losers have too much time in their hands.

Downvote us all you want because that's the only thing Beamdog and its loser lapdogs does best.
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Ceana of the Crags: I am angry beyond words at not knowing how to access the original games.
The method has been described several times in this thread alone. A quick search for serial led me to the following posts. There may have been other people who posted these instructions without using that word.

First, there was my (now downvoted(?)) post that described the process in detail (follow link to my post for full instructions):
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advowson: The classic edition cannot be bought. However, the EE should give you a GOG Gift Code which you can redeem to add the classic edition to your account.
To which two people replied, quoting and expressing appreciation:
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advowson: The classic edition cannot be bought. However, the EE should give you a GOG Gift Code which you can redeem to add the classic edition to your account.
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NastrondVI: So much happier now. No matter how much I tried the Enhanced Editions are eyesores..
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advowson: The classic edition cannot be bought. However, the EE should give you a GOG Gift Code which you can redeem to add the classic edition to your account.
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ironsidestwo: Wow I now have the original will try it on my XP laptop....Thanks
Someone else described the process independent of my post:
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Baldurs_Gate200: At first, I thought the classic versions were gone but I read they were bundled with the EE version on GOG. My only complaint really, is that it's a bit unintuitive to get access to the classic versions because you have to go to serial keys.
And another independent brief description:
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Tuthrick: I already have the originals on CDs and on GOG, but it's annoying that they don't have thier own store page and as you mentioned you have to fiddle around with serial keys to get them + they were cheaper before the bundle.
And another. This one even included a screenshot, for people who prefer that over the text instructions I posted back in early 2021.
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olnorton: If you have the EE versions on GOG, you will also have a redeemable key for the original Bioware versions.
Through your browser (not galaxy) select BGEE > Downloads then More then Serial Keys. (see pic)
I find the downvote on my 2021 post odd, since it was purely an instructional post and expressed no opinion on the relative merits of the editions. I can only conclude that it was collateral damage from someone blindly downvoting every post in the thread.
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advowson: I find the downvote on my 2021 post odd, since it was purely an instructional post and expressed no opinion on the relative merits of the editions. I can only conclude that it was collateral damage from someone blindly downvoting every post in the thread.
Don't be surprised, any post here will be downvoted for no reason. I think yours was downvoted since you gave instructions on how to download the original versions of the games, which "implies" that people prefer to play the original versions instead of you know what.

I bet the only post that will not be downvoted/even upvoted here will be about praising Beamdog to no end.
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I prefer the classic editions over the EEs. (*gasp* The Horror!)

Especially classic BG1, which is not balanced to be used with the BG2 engine. And classic BG2 is just perfection.

But... that is just my opinion. Go ahead, Beamdog folks. Low-rate me for my opinion and preference.
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Very bad decision on their part. I have the original classic versions of these games, and not giving people the choice to have one or the other for themselves is plain stupid. Proof that sometimes having these in physical form is best.
Post edited July 02, 2022 by iAmCodeMonkey
Comparison between the EE and classic version.
Classic graphics looks smoother with better colors. The EE are rough and missing some pixels, the UI scaling/balance is atrocious. The EE UI look is a big middle finger to the original's design. It is not as snappy with items. etc...etc...
The classic versions of ALL the Infinity engine games should be available at GOG with their own pages.
EE are bastardized versions that are great for smartphones and tablets but should NOT replace what the original Black Isle developers created in the 90s. These have their charm and should be remembered as is when they were released; not replaced by our current <modern> sensibilities.
That is why we love these good old games!
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Post edited July 04, 2022 by mr_daruman
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I might get down voted for this but I've yet to hear a compelling reason to spend the money again to purchases the EE editions of the Baldur's gate series, NWN, and Icewind Dale Series for someone in my situation.

Money has been tight and with the mods I run I've had a smooth experience reliving my childhood(BGT version). I know that one day once my house is paid off and I have money and time when no longer working 2 jobs I'll look into purchasing the EE editions to see what all the talk is about. I'm sure I'll find a bunch of new things to love again.
Yep, absolutely every post on this thread was downvoted (including Beamdog, themselves, lol) before GOG decided to remove downvoting, recently, with posts in all kinds of threads being heavily downvoted for even saying one word in agreement with a post that was doing anything but praising the glories of GOG and/or <insert game here>. It doesn't seem that GOG will ever really fix/update the forums, but I suppose removing an abused feature is something.

I've had little to do with GOG for several years, now, but was slowly getting back (going through the last four years of this thread was interesting), but the recent Blade Runner debacle got my attention (luckily, that got fixed). Beyond Beamdog, which is a part of it, I'd been fed up with various bad decisions by GOG. Yes, GOG *is* partly responsible for the Beamdog mess (and similar messes) for not putting their foot down. I'd rather see the game, including original, removed entirely, than GOG bending the knee for devs, while at the same time insulting customers, and being forced to buy someone else's version (poor or not) to get it. When GOG was "Good Old Games", I used to buy it here even if I had the game elsewhere (even DRM free elsewhere), not so much anymore.

I believe GOG once did a study that showed DRM games are more pirated than DRM free which, beyond defeating the point of DRM, showed that people will support being treated fairly and given a better experience. Putting the originals behind a gate, a more expensive and insulting gate in this case, isn't customer friendly and, like DRM, probably led to more piracy of the originals. This is just one of the things I dislike about the modern GOG. GOG once stood against the customer unfriendly practices of DRM. If a company/dev insisted on DRM, they wouldn't be on GOG (GOG/CDPR did/does have a say and Beamdog was, in a sense, right about that). Gating old games behind new versions, often with higher prices is just a newer, customer unfriendly practice that GOG isn't willing to stand up to.

It seems to me, besides DRM free, we now need a "Gate free" store. Every time I see a game removed and gated behind a new version, it just screams "This new version is terrible and the devs know it or they wouldn't mind competing with the original". As far as I'm concerned, it's not available for sale, anymore, and is abandonware. Are these gated classics getting updated to run on newer systems or just left to rot behind the gate?

It's funny how Beamdog (and WotC, along with Hasbro, who both had a say in what Beamdog was doing) were like a precursor to all the woke/SJW stuff going on with other media, now - insult anyone who doesn't like your garbage and watch it go down in flames. Brilliant tactic, lol. For the most part, other media couldn't remove the originals so easily or force you to consume it to get the originals. Just look at how well Top Gun: Maverick did in comparison to other IPs (Maverick wasn't a woke sequel, remake, reimagining, etc, etc) and even how the original Star Wars Trilogy is being fixed by fans. George Lucas didn't mind mutilating the Original Trilogy and doing his best to make sure no one could watch it that way, again, in higher than 480i quality, now he complains about what's being done to Star Wars by the company he sold it to, lol.

Anyway, long live the originals with their reviews, extras and so on (I'm enjoying posting this in Beamdog's thread). Copy/paste or these will just take you to the GOG store, not sure how to fix it:

https://web.archive.org/web/20160418201422/http://www.gog.com/game/baldurs_gate_the_original_saga
https://web.archive.org/web/20160418213324/http://www.gog.com/game/baldurs_gate_2_complete
https://web.archive.org/web/20160416184523/http://www.gog.com/game/icewind_dale_complete
https://web.archive.org/web/20170411155744/http://www.gog.com/game/planescape_torment
https://web.archive.org/web/20181011141148/http://www.gog.com/game/neverwinter_nights_diamond_edition
Post edited August 30, 2022 by plan99
Heh, so GOG finally decided to remove the downvoting option. Maybe now the Beamdog shills can have a life other than downvoting people who dare to criticize their glorious Beamdog supreme leader and their business practices. I haven't bought a game in GOG since 2020 and looks like I haven't missed anything of relevance to date.
Glad GOG finally decided to remove the downvote button. Now BeamDog and their fanboys can stop stalking their threads every hour and every day.
It should've been done well over 2 years ago but we're here now.

I still have my original digital copy of Baldur's Gate 2, I wish I had more money then to buy the original copy of Baldur's Gate 1 when it was still labeled 'Developed by BioWare' which it should still be.

But hey, BeamDog is still on suicide watch, still raging that they don't have rights to Baldur's Gate III, so that they can create an ""Enchanced Edition"". Because they cannot create anything original and having to beat the dead horse of ancient games they're trying to develop political agendas thinking they can be 'hip' with the political trends. Well tough luck. Even if BeamDog tried to make anything original, they'd never be willing to invest into a quality product, instead using the cheapest methods possible while forfilling their agendas first and foremost.

And the people who go "Oooh, if you buy EE, you'll get the Original too. Why are you complaining?" First, I don't want EE, I just want the Original and how it was. Second, screw BeamDog. Thirdly, Screw BeamDog.
They're literally have the power to give us the option of buying which version of the game we want. But they knew we wouldn't accept EE because it's so crap. So they forced both games together at a higher price, and can proudly brag how well their EE is doing.
Post edited September 27, 2022 by davidxlongshot