so long and thanks for all the fish!
https://forum.bioware.com/topic/574978-bioware-forums-closing-down/

EA are probably almost done milking the franchises they bought when they bought Bioware in the first place. Bioware will be closed in a few years or so.

I wonder if they'll even make it that long. I'm pretty sure if Mass Effect 4 under performs, which it will, that'll be EA's cue to shutter them.

By shutting the forums down they also remove a ton of criticizm aimed at MA:A. It also strikes me that players reporting bugs and the like might also not be heard. And I guess players helping other players circumvent bugs will be less of a thing now too.

Maybe EA knows ME:A will be a stinker, and just figure they should silence the fans before it is out?

What's with all the pre-judging of a product that's not even out yet? Is this all because it doesn't relate to the original trilogy; it doesn't include Shepard? If so, that's simply short sighted nonsense. If not, then how can a product that's not out for another 6 months or so "under perform" or "be a stinker"?

Kind of jumping the gun repeatedly with your assumptions there, aren't you?

And it isn't short-sighted if you factor in that ME3 sucked, and it had an ending that just ruined the trilogy. Dragon Age 2 was a rushed mess. Dragon Age: Inquisition was a dumbed down collection of fetch quests. Ever since EA took over Bioware the quality of their games have declined. Which also happened to Origin when EA took over. Westwood + all the others companies they bought.

I jumped no gun. I was merely asking a question based on *your* assumptions (pot, kettle, black) that this new game will suck. I never read reviews, especially about upcoming games -- unbiased reviews are rarer than hens teeth -- so I have not seen any bad press about it. I was merely curious as to how it can be derided when it has not been released. So then, all this talk is based on old grudges. I see.

No, not really. EA has done this with every single company they have bought in the past. That means it isn't and assumption, it is a constant. The games start declining in quality. The fans gets alienated and then shut off. The games decline even further. The company gets shut down.

The people who made all the great bioware titles are gone now too. That is a huge hint right there. The Bioware we knew is already gone.

I don't disagree with you on any of that, except for the fact that it *is* an assumption that this game will suck. You don't know that; you can't know that; you are making an assumption based on your opinion of other games. It may be that this game will suck, but it may equally be the case that the game will astound everybody. You don't know. Nobody knows.

Then I suggest you actually re-read the post I wrote. I didn't say the game would suck. I said nothing of the sort.

I said "Maybe EA knows it will suck" and that is why they are shutting down the forums before it is out. That doesn't equal me thinking the game will suck.

Stop avoiding the issue. You made an assumption. Colour it all you like, it's still an assumption.

Nope. I raised a question. A question isn't an assumption. You need a statement for that.


Assumption: 1.
something taken for granted; a supposition:
a correct assumption.
Synonyms: presupposition; hypothesis, conjecture, guess, postulate, theory.
2.
the act of taking for granted or supposing.
Synonyms: presumption; presupposition.
3.
the act of taking to or upon oneself.
Synonyms: acceptance, shouldering.
4.
the act of taking possession of something:
the assumption of power.
Synonyms: seizure, appropriation, usurpation, arrogation.
5.
arrogance; presumption.
Synonyms: presumptuousness; effrontery, forwardness, gall.
6.
the taking over of another's debts or obligations.
7.
Ecclesiastical.

(often initial capital letter) the bodily taking up into heaven of the Virgin Mary.
(initial capital letter) a feast commemorating this, celebrated on August 15.

Question:
[kwes-chuh n]

Synonyms
Examples
Word Origin

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noun
1.
a sentence in an interrogative form, addressed to someone in order to get information in reply.
2.
a problem for discussion or under discussion; a matter for investigation.
3.
a matter of some uncertainty or difficulty; problem (usually followed by of):
It was simply a question of time.
4.
a subject of dispute or controversy.
5.
a proposal to be debated or voted on, as in a meeting or a deliberative assembly.
6.
the procedure of putting a proposal to vote.
7.
Politics. a problem of public policy submitted to the voters for an expression of opinion.
verb (used with object)
11.
to ask (someone) a question; ask questions of; interrogate.
12.
to ask or inquire.
13.
to make a question of; doubt:
He questioned her sincerity.
14.
to challenge or dispute:
She questioned the judge's authority in the case.
verb (used without object)
15.
to ask a question or questions.
Idioms
16.
beg the question. beg1(def 9).
17.
beyond question, beyond dispute; without doubt:
It was, beyond question, a magnificent performance.
Also, beyond all question.
18.
call in /into question,

to dispute; challenge.
to cast doubt upon; question:
This report calls into question all previous research on the subject.

19.
in question,

under consideration.
in dispute.

20.
out of the question, not to be considered; unthinkable; impossible:
She thought about a trip to Spain but dismissed it as out of the question.


Here you go. Two brand new words for you to learn.

Wow, you can use a search engine. Congratulations.

Indeed I can. I also know the difference between a question and an assumption.

You don't need to believe the game will suck to also believe it won't sell well.

Many observable market forces all point towards the game under performing. Reception to the last title, the new one not taking place in the same context as the old ones, the absence of all the characters people grew to love. The fact that it's made by very different people than made the originals.

Now, it's not unheard of for all these things to be true, and yet the game actually does better. Wizardry 6 jumps out at me as an example of an entry to a series that desperately needed some fresh blood. I'm under the impression it enormously rehabilitated the franchise. But in this case that seems unlikely. Even if it's met with critical praise, I suspect a weary consumer base might keep their distance regardless.