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Hello. Also I am not proud of it, only for the books: If I give away at first attempt (which is obvousely wrong), to that Preston guy, will I get it back after the second encounter with him or will this be more tricky?

I know, there is no problem, starting the game one more time and then taking the correct decisiosn, but only for the books: after having read through the walkthroughs, if I understood them correctly, I will meet this guy another time, and it will come to a fight then. Will he have the ring in his inventory or not?
This question / problem has been solved by TwoHandedSwordimage
No worries; he will. The ring is too important to the main storyline to simply disappear. (Even if you sold it to Ristezze, for example, it'd remain siting in his inventory for you to buy back.)

When the time comes, simply kill Radcliffe (he won't give you any choice in the matter) and search his corpse.

Also it's been a while, but IIRC simply describing the ring to Bates is enough to advance the story. Of course, if you don't actually have it he can't offer to buy it back (and you won't get another chance later).

Alternately, if you've made nice with the thieves at the bridge and like being evil, you could pursue an alternate quest to sneak your way into the mansion via a secret passage, and prowl (or kill) your way into discovering what your PC needs to know.
Post edited February 20, 2013 by TwoHandedSword
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TwoHandedSword: No worries; he will. The ring is too important to the main storyline to simply disappear. (Even if you sold it to Ristezze, for example, it'd remain siting in his inventory for you to buy back.)

When the time comes, simply kill Radcliffe (he won't give you any choice in the matter) and search his corpse.

Also it's been a while, but IIRC simply describing the ring to Bates is enough to advance the story. Of course, if you don't actually have it he can't offer to buy it back (and you won't get another chance later).

Alternately, if you've made nice with the thieves at the bridge and like being evil, you could pursue an alternate quest to sneak your way into the mansion via a secret passage, and prowl (or kill) your way into discovering what your PC needs to know.
Thanks for the information, I thought so, but was not quite sure, if there might have been a penalty for giving away the ring so early and easy. It was clear to me, that this decisions is discutable, but thought, that you perhaps would be able to earn some extra coins doing so.... as I choosed a human, braught up by bandits, I entered the game completely naked (never seen that in any other game before) - and was desperately in need of money to buy at least some moderate clothing.... As you see, I like to choose tech and gunner by the way.... I always thought of such a setting, even before that game came out. There are many other questions, but I don't want to spoil me more than necessary, I like much more to find out on my own, what the game really is about (except for this one question here).
You started the game naked? How? Did you sell your starting outfit back to the pregame shopkeeper?

Money shouldn't be much of a problem. For one thing, you can collect all the stuff lying around the crash, and in any caves and dungeons you explore. Try selling them to merchants; and then junk dealers like Ristezze will buy almost anything you have left.

There's also a quest in the cave at the crash site, where you can kill someone and take his suit (assuming you're human-sized). You should always do that quest anyway: it's easy XP early on, and you get a small bonus to others' reactions to you if you follow the good-guy path.
Escaped Lunatic background! Well done!
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thogu61: .... as I choosed a human, braught up by bandits, I entered the game completely naked (never seen that in any other game before) - and was desperately in need of money to buy at least some moderate clothing....
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ewmarch: Escaped Lunatic background! Well done!
Actually, the Bandit background also starts with no money (they get bullets instead). And both backgrounds — in fact, all backgrounds — start out with some sort of clothing; my guess is that the OP sold his right back, not realizing his PC would be running around the wilderness in his skivvies without it.
Maybe in the character-creation part I wasn't aware to have sold all my clothes there, but I really sat there with an open mouthed very very long face, when I saw that char really all over naked. That thing with the quest at the crash-site I didn't remember then, so I really went over the whole way into that town naked, and really, the people there were generally not amused, when they had to talk to me. They only began to behave civilised after I had spent some money in decent clothing - oh yes!

I'll check this out one more time, I also had problems with the fighting mode, sometimes it was round by round and sometimes it was in realtime-mode. I'll have to check this again with the manual. But generally I think, the game is really so special, that it is really worth, being played through carefully.

First I thought, that being naked was a consequence of the background chosen, but reading you mentioning that vendor in the pre-opening, there really might have been some clothes I did sell away there to receive at least somewhat money.
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thogu61: Maybe in the character-creation part I wasn't aware to have sold all my clothes there, but I really sat there with an open mouthed very very long face, when I saw that char really all over naked. That thing with the quest at the crash-site I didn't remember then, so I really went over the whole way into that town naked, and really, the people there were generally not amused, when they had to talk to me. They only began to behave civilised after I had spent some money in decent clothing - oh yes!
I did that in my second game of Arcanum--because when you're used to how the inventory system normally works, a suit sitting around on the grid doesn't look like something that's about to be auto-equipped on you.

Arbalah was horrified. :-D

Edit: there's actually a mod which makes underwear less immodest (among other things), but it only works for women. http://jake.brasee.com/modestymods/arcanum.php
Post edited February 21, 2013 by VanishedOne
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thogu61: I'll check this out one more time, I also had problems with the fighting mode, sometimes it was round by round and sometimes it was in realtime-mode. I'll have to check this again with the manual. But generally I think, the game is really so special, that it is really worth, being played through carefully.
That's an easy fix. The game can be played in two modes: real-time and turn-based. You switch between them by hitting the space bar during combat; you can also check which one is set by hitting O (for 'Options') and looking at your Default Combat Mode. (Hint: if you see a row of green lights during combat, you're in turn-based mode.)
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thogu61: I'll check this out one more time, I also had problems with the fighting mode, sometimes it was round by round and sometimes it was in realtime-mode. I'll have to check this again with the manual. But generally I think, the game is really so special, that it is really worth, being played through carefully.
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TwoHandedSword: That's an easy fix. The game can be played in two modes: real-time and turn-based. You switch between them by hitting the space bar during combat; you can also check which one is set by hitting O (for 'Options') and looking at your Default Combat Mode. (Hint: if you see a row of green lights during combat, you're in turn-based mode.)
Okay, thanks so far, I really appreciate this forum - alone with that you're obviousely never alone, even as a sometimes somewhat low-checker (speaking of me). It's really strange, I remember when I played this game the first time, I am definitely not aware, that I then had so many questions, I simply played. The only thing I was stuck, was the strange map with no places shown (at the beginning). I only very late checked, that when you went over the map with the cursor, that the names of the places were given, for every place you found. But actually, there seems that this has changed? I had at least a map full of places, even at the start, giving good orientation. Has this really changed or will this blind map come in later? I think, as a shooter/gunner it is easier to play in real time mode, because then the shots are fired until the opposing npc is dead or you run out of bullets. So you simply have to be sure at the beginning of a fight, that you have a reliable number of ammo. In turn base mode you have to do this shot after shot and this does not make sense in my eyes. This might change with other charsettings and in other situations. Generally I think, the game has set turnbased mode as standard, because I had the problem especially in the first fights, after that I hit sometimes by accident the spacebar and so the fights were than done immediately.
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thogu61: The only thing I was stuck, was the strange map with no places shown (at the beginning). I only very late checked, that when you went over the map with the cursor, that the names of the places were given, for every place you found. But actually, there seems that this has changed? I had at least a map full of places, even at the start, giving good orientation. Has this really changed or will this blind map come in later?
The normal in-game map is filled in as the game progresses, but if you want to see where you can go, there's a PDF of the completed map as one of the Extras.

Edit: actually, semi-completed (major locations). http://www.gamebanshee.com/arcanum/theworld.php is the thoroughly completed version.
Post edited March 04, 2013 by VanishedOne
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TwoHandedSword: you could pursue an alternate quest to sneak your way into the mansion via a secret passage
my hearts with you if you pursue this route. That tunnel is absolutely riddled with traps