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Uncensored versions of games.in progress

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GOG aims at providing games in their original experience (original low tech versions), and liberated from tacked on limitations (drm). I am not sure why they consider censored games satisfying. Is removed or altered content so much better than drm restrictions ? The GOG versions of Fallout, Giants, Gobliiins feel incomplete because of such details. And the edited parts make no sense on a site that also sells unaltered "mature" games (like Carmageddon, Farenheit, Witcher). I suggest that GOG should (if it doesn't already) treat censored versions as temporary "stopgap measures", keep looking for the original versions with the same energy as for unavailable games, and replace them as soon as they can. Or even, make censorship a DRM-level point during their negociations with titles owners.

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Censorship is an idiotic concept. We are grown ass people here and we do not wish to be told what we can or can not consume by some random asshat.
As to the point, please consider providing at least an option to acquire the uncensored version of a product (if possible of course) and a giant warning about censorship on anything that is censored, because some of us find censorship to be highly offensive.

Apr. 30, 2015
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http://www.nikeeight.com/11/jordan-shoes-88-online.html

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http://www.overlucky.com/wholesale/air-max-shoes-online/

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Please stop the censoring of the games. We are not console peasants.

Mar. 14, 2015
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Having a censored version is completely necessary. If it does go through, I at least want to see the clean versions of these games stay as an option.

Jan. 22, 2015
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Fallout is a bit of a corner case though because AFAIK the version that removes the children (that's the censored part you mean, right) is ALSO a later revision in terms of bug fixes and stability - whichever version they put on the site would need SOME fiddling around with either to put the kids back into the 'cnesored' one or to fully patch up the 'uncensored' one!

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regional censorship would never be up to GOG

Jan. 7, 2015
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I from Russia and purchase game in gog on sale or pre purchase.
Price for games in gog with maximum discount = steam price without discount for me :D
Example ARX Fatalis in steam price without discount = 99 rubles
In gog = 519 rubles
More expensive than 5 times :(
But better pay more gog for service, great system and best support!
I hope that you will develop further and better. Just hope to add multi language games ;)
GOG best, Happy new year :)

Dec. 22, 2014
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Postal 2 "Complete" contains a censored version of the A Week In Paradise mod, lacking several politically incorrect parts of the mod ("Fag Hunter" minigame, shoot zombies in a school with porn in the principal's office), as well as shurikens and a few other content. However, this "Complete"ly-Censored version was released by the developer (Running With Scissors) this way to both GOG and Steam. The original mod is freely downloadable from the RWS official message board, but it would still be great if GOG would mention or advertise that the game was "Complete"ly-Censored of politically incorrect content.

Dec. 22, 2014
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They're selling the uncensored version of Leisure Suit Larry's Nephew: Magna Cum Laude, so I assume either this topic began a while ago, or they will sell the "complete" version if they can.

Either way, I'm all for uncensorship.

Dec. 14, 2014
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I agree with flamanar, the best is to leave the choice to the customer. You can have the installer give you the option to install the censored or the uncensored version, or you could have censoring/uncensoring patches, any approach is good.

Dec. 14, 2014
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For god's sake people, give us uncensored games. Consorship in the 21 century? Really? GOG.com please do not dissapoint me, I've only recently discovered your existance and you're my favorite store, but if you deliver any of the games censored I don't think I'll support you with any more purchases. Please :)

Dec. 14, 2014
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Sell both versions. Some of us have little kids, and I've already had some 'woops' moments when I didn't think the kiddies were in the room when something adult happened. Plus, I like to share my games with my son. But if I have all adult versions, then he has nothing to play. Both versions makes everyone happy. I'd also add to PLEASE make the ESRB symbol BIGGER in game descriptions. Also (if possible) please state the reasons a game gets a more mature rating (profanity, sexual innuendo, etc.). The latest movies coming out on Blu-ray provide that feature now...and makes it much easier for parents to choose what they feel is 'ok' for their kids to see/hear. Thanks GOG.

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Some regional censorship is unavoidable, unless you want to turn it into international censorship. E.g. German law about the use of Nazi symbols meant that the German version of Doom II did not have the secret "Wolfenstein 3D" levels. In the recent re-release of Doom II bundled with Doom 3: BFG Edition, they instead replaced the textures by copies without the symbols, and basically destroyed the Wolf 3D SS enemy, making these levels even less playable than they were to start with (and creating desyncs in multiplayer if some people in the netgame play with the old, non-neutered data files).

What's the best approach, remove the illegal part only in the concerned country, or remove it for everyone? Frankly, I think the former is better.

What they can do, however, is clearly say that the version is censored and why. Have something on the game's description on the shelf saying "Censored version - By <your country> law, we are not allowed to let you download the uncensored version of this game. The censored elements include <short list of elements altered or removed>". Put it in red text or something. Make it clear it's not GOG's choice to do that.

Nov. 23, 2014
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Censorship is for fascist or commie regimes .
Self responsibility !!!
If your an irresponsible idiot please keep using condoms ...

So yes uncensored games please !

Nov. 22, 2014
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I for one like having options. There are (admittedly very rare) cases where I prefer the censored version of a title over the uncensored version, if for no other reason than aesthetics. For example, there are some games that give me the option to turn off the blood. Blood doesn't really bother me, and I usually prefer having it the game when the creator meant for it to be there, but it can be a little distracting sometimes when the blood splashes in the camera, blocking my vision.

Another reason I like having the option to choose between a censored and uncensored version of a game is that I sometimes like to get my younger brother interested in a game if I really like it, but if there's something in it I know my parents would rather him not see in a video game, he'll either have to wait until he's older, or I can get him the censored version. As long as the gameplay is the same, it's really no skin off my nose.

Nov. 19, 2014
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I was not aware GOG sold the censored versions of games when they exist. So I can expect Fallout to be the european version and not the american version, then. I'll tell you what, the difference is nothing to get beat up about, but it is something to oppose, on principle if nothing else.
Censored Fallout retains all the gore and profanity. The only difference I noticed was that there are no children. I suppose that's better than invulnerable children... then again, that little detail is often possible to mod out. Sure, it may delight some sick fucks, but most of us want it for the sake of immersion. If the game has kids, it's by your benevolence that you spare or even save them, as opposed to them being removed from the game entirely because you can't be trusted not to turn into a child-killer. And it's not a crime if you do (in-game, that is), they may be digital representations of children in a game universe but in no way do they equal real children. Killing a virtual kid is not the same despicable act as killing a real child. I love kids, in the good way. I hate brats, though I often blame the parents. Either way, I'd never kill a brat. But I've killed kids in Fallout 2 whilst making an evil character playthrough, starting with the urchins who nick your stuff in The Den! Took me a while to figure out why my precious items were disappearing off my inventory, the first time I played it. I don't think I killed them that first time as I was probably playing a goodie two-shoes firstly. Likewise, I was pleased that there is a way to help the kids and stop them from riffling your pockets in that positive manner. At least... I think there was. Either there was or I simply had to thieve my items back from them. Well, give the game a break, Black Isle were forced to release it slightly unfinished!
But I digress. I played the european version of Fallout back in the day. Later on, around 2000, I played Fallout 2. I now know it was the american version, as it had kids, which at the time I figured were an addition of the sequel! But indeed it makes sense that they are not, as the models are old-styled and all the new character models introduced in FO2 are a of a different sort, more detailed but overall less fitting with very stiff animations that just look bad. Thankfully, the vast majority of characters use the old models. You'll see mostly new models only in San Francisco and in the Mordino crime family, half their henchmen using a new model that looks almost comical when they burst-fire an SMG.
But I digress, once more. I know for sure the original that I played was censored because I more recently played the american version and, go figure, kids! I was surprised to find them the first time when getting to Shady Sands. And I still remember, on the european version back in the day, the description of at least one of the weird and wiry hunchbacks in yellow shirts and light brown pants denoting that he was supposedly a child. That was either in Shady Sands or in a random encounter... or both. It's been well over a decade with much, much subject matter studied along the way, excuse my forgetfulness on that.

TL;DR: vote against censorship if only for the very principle of freedom of expression!

If any media deserves censorship, it's the many technically legal yet practically pedophile Japanese hentai games as well as pedophile literature that remains within the boundary of legality simply by not including actual illustrated pornography or direct instructions for illegal conduct. Games already undergo age-ratings; mature games like Fallout aren't meant for children, it's their guardians' responsibility if they play 'em. Having said that... I was still a kid when I first played Fallout 2. It just so happens I had, at least, the minimum intelligence required not to let it affect my sanity and morality. BTW, intelligence != knowledge or math skills. They are signs of intelligence, not actual intelligence. I'd rather define it as the ability for reasoning and understanding, viewing things through others' perspectives and having a wide intellectual awareness, as opposed to memorizing data or being a human computer.
I digress for a third time... but hey, this paragraph ain't part of the TL;DR! On a final note, I'd like to point out that this shouldn't be viewed as whining from taking for granted content that a game may well have lacked since the start, in any version. I most definitely give props to Black Isle for developing mature content, some of which they were forced to censor, contrary to other devs who will simply opt out entirely. Having said that, while I do have a penchant for gore and such "mature" rated content, I am bound by moderating reason and rather disapprove of extreme cases (Manhunt, I'm looking at you, you twisted game!).

Nov. 14, 2014
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Censoring games should be an option, not mandatory. Vote for parental locks in games.

Btw, next time ask for credit card info to block spams...

Nov. 14, 2014
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Don't censor the games, but please censor the spam!

Nov. 7, 2014
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I think there is regional censorship here already as some people have mentioned stuff that is not the same in every gog game version for different users - also why is the PEGI rating now on gog.com if there is no regional censorship.

Aug. 31, 2014
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A year later and games are still censored...

Aug. 13, 2014
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Censorship laws — keyword here is laws. They can't not censor it, just fight the law like that.

Aug. 8, 2014
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How do you want Gog to inform us if they don't even bother to delete the spam on this forum?

Aug. 2, 2014
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At least we should be informed that is a censored / edited version. Or sell the two versions. You buy the one you prefer ;)

Jul. 27, 2014
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Censorship is evil!

'nuff said

Jul. 16, 2014
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Yes, censorship is a blight in media and needs to gtfo. Why should my gaming experience be anything less then what the developer wanted to show. I am Australian and hate that censorship crap has to be a thing.

Jul. 10, 2014
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I live in Australia and my country loves to either Heavily Censor or completely ban Video games with Violence, Drug references or Sex references. I find this a violation of my human rights in a way as these knobjockeys are basicaly telling my what I can and Can't play. I believe Parents need to show more responsibility rather that rely on the Government to make the decision and apply it to all adults as well!

Jun. 29, 2014
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At the very least, an indication that the version you are being offered is censored is paramount.

Jun. 24, 2014
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well, some games that are banned for me are available on gog. I'm not complaining!

Jun. 23, 2014
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In German versions of games the English Versions of the missing parts should be added. If the game couldn't be completed in German, I would still like the missing parts in Englisch instead of loosing them completely. 1 % in English, but at least completet. I'm honest, I would like that.

Jun. 23, 2014
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No to Censorship! Put the games the way they were intended to be!

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Jun. 21, 2014
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No to Censorship! Put the games the way they were intended to be!

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Jun. 21, 2014
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Well it looks as though the thread spiraled a little out of control. But I will put in my thoughts on the matter.

Uncensored games: Believing that most creative works are art (games included,) I believe that they should be released they way the artist intended. Though it comes with a caveat of still adhering to local laws.

Adult games: As the market supports the creation and proliferation of such I see no problem with them. If this was something GOG.com was thinking of I would imagine they would create a sister site (GOGBlack.com, etc...) with a stricter age gate. That way consumers could keep one account but still be able to opt into any "Adult" content if they wished to do so.

Jun. 21, 2014
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You're barking up the wrong tree, you would need to petition to change those laws and not to GOG to ignore them.

Being German, I can say that the situation here is as follows: If a game is excessively violent, it can be indexed under StGB § 131 "Gewaltverherrlichung". Selling a game that falls under these criteria to a minor (<18) or advertising them publicly is a criminal offense. It would be possible to implement a binding age check (ID based) to offer then such games to those eligible, but I doubt this would be a workload manageable by GOG - by Steam, yes - but GOG is likely too small for this.(*)

Games indexed under StGB § 86/86a (those containing swastikas, German salutes and other emblems/symbols/propaganda of banned parties) are NEVER to be sold in Germany, to nobody - not even those _over_ 18.

(*) StGB § 184 falls under this category, too. However, I'm not aware of any game being indexed for that paragraph.
Furthermore, some games (like Left 4 Dead 1/2 uncut) were confiscated under that paragraph by a judge. In such a case, the distribution of that game is forbidden altogether for the next 25 years.

Jun. 20, 2014
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There was a report yesterday saying that Fallout 1/2 are back on Steam (and I presume Tactics, but I'm not on Steam so I can't verify).

So with any luck, this wish will have some validity once again soon.

Jun. 19, 2014
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While GoG is bound by various laws, it would be nice to have the option to download a regional copy of a game if censorship is going to be practiced. It's not really any different a concept than how Alone in the Dark has numerous different languages available for download under it. Some of this should be left up to the users discretion, and some users may live in more than one country. I'd really hate to see an adult user who paid for a game shorted on its functionality. This, too, would also allow users who do want a censored version to have access to it without having to, yanno, move to another country to get it.

Jun. 18, 2014
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As much as I agree with the principle, this really isn't up to them.

Jun. 17, 2014
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@Rafeweisz Who was talking about porn? We only want to play games as they were designed to be played, with the exact amount (or lack) of nudity/violence they have. This site isn't a porn game store neither a kids games store, it's a Good Old (and new) Games store.

If you don't want your kids play a PEGI/ESRB +12/16/18 game, simply don't buy it.

Jun. 15, 2014
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Absolutely. I don't really get all this censorship buisness. It is not needed for adults and children are a responsibility of their parents. Who should make an effort of knowing what their children play/watch/consume. But when I was a runt I could go to a store and buy whatever for cash. This is an online-store. It is much easier to controll what a child gets from here. Everything else is up to parent to decide.
So my opinion: censure is not needed. If it is at all possible the uncensored version should be released.

Jun. 14, 2014
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If I knew being Australian would alter my purchase of The Witcher 2 I wouldn't of bought it. No more regional censorship!

Jun. 14, 2014
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YAY "In Progress"

Jun. 14, 2014
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If you want games with porn in them, go to porn webs. Stop asking for porn everywhere. Leave some sites be child friendly.

Jun. 9, 2014
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Ugh, censorship.

Jun. 8, 2014
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if regional censorship gets introduced and my old purchases are affected, i WILL leave this site.

Jun. 8, 2014
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If you add a dialog on startup asking if you do or don't want adult content in the game. Giving every gamer in every region his/her own choice. This should be allowed by laws in all regions (not an expert, but logic says that should be :P). A bit like MW2 asking if you want to play the airport level, which was a bit brutal. Gives you the choice, doesn't lock you. Best of both worlds so to speak.

Jun. 8, 2014
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Apparently countries like Germany don't like it if the game SHIPS with mature content, but have no problem if you distribute a means of undoing the censorship e.g. a patch.

So GOG/CD Projekt can get around these laws very easily if they really want to.

Jun. 7, 2014
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Yeah because when no censorship comes porn games have a chance to make it. Bring on the no censorship!

Jun. 6, 2014
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I want my friends overseas to have the same gaming experience I have.

Jun. 6, 2014
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I oppose censorship and support this effort. Though there's only so much GOG can do about it if a national government lays down a "censor or don't sell" edict on them.

Jun. 6, 2014
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