graspee

Fallout 1 and 2 can of course be restored to uncensored glory using third party downloads, but that kind of defeats the point of buying them on gog for those of us who have the original discs.

TheIRS

GOG shouldn't be doing the uncensoring themselves, but this should otherwise indeed be obligatory.

gray_fox_89

i have no idea whats your problem? sniper elite, carmageddon and many other games on gog are censored in germany (when you buy them in german shops). til today i havent found any games wich are censored. i gues this is an american server..... wich would means all games are the original uncut-versions.

Ettanin

Better idea: Offer both versions for the same price with one single buy. Those who feel uncomfortable with uncut game versions can download the censored version as an alternative. (Yes, there are games that can become too gory)
Those who like it bloody can choose to download the uncensored version. That's the best tradeoff for both sides.

bmihoric

When I first downloaded them, Fallout 1 was censored and Fallout 2 was not. Ironically, I also have the original CD versions and on those I have them censored-uncensored exactly the other way around.

Some comments here suggest Fallout 2 is censored as well. Will have to redownload and check. If GoG went and replaced the uncensored version, that would make me a bit sad (about GoG, I still have the old installer to keep in that case).

squishysupreme

Oddly enough, Fahrenheit is also censored in one part. Many games that were released outside of the U.S. were "toned down" in order to get sales, since Gamestop and Amazon and other retailers refused to carry them if they were rated M. This policy changed about five years ago, IIRC, but it affected games from the 90s almost without exception.

DarioGOII

probably is just a bit laborious remove censoring, but for certain games uncensoring patches already exist (for example fallout). Just make the bundled, for countries with special laws you can add an option in users profiles "I agree that laws of my country does not forbit the download of this uncensored version and hereby I grant I already reached major age"

DarioGOII

good idea, I ever never knew GOG had censored games. censoring does not make sense at all, and can also be a good marketing point (just add to game info: "uncesored version available too" ;) )

Gaerzi

At the very least, add an censorship-removing patch as an extra.

MrVonClassico

Well keep in mind, they may have to do the censored version otherwise they'd lose the ability to sell to certain regions.. In short they do the one that will be allowed in the most regions. Otherwise, they'd have to bar say Australians or Germans from buying games

Jalek

Sounds pretty arbitrary if they have the normal Carmageddon version. When it released, they had to make one with zombies in place of pedestrians and change the blood splatter to green for it to even be allowed somewhere. I think it was for Germany.

haynos1

very good idea! congrats!

nicktonic

@alvorsam : iirc interstate '82 (the disc version at least) has all the uncensored versions of the voice clips in the wavs folder and you can just rename them. i think they have x's in the filenames to denote the ones that are uncensored. the game is rated Teen so the censored versions are the default. i'll post on the gog i82 forum with more specific info soon

alvorsam

Interstate '82 is also censored, but this might have been a slip. Everytime Taurus says something about someone's "ass", they've either muted it or changed it with "butt". Seriously!? This makes for a larger operation if they decide to patch this, as whole video segments must be exchanged with ones with correct voice-over.

garryg910

Divi Dead and Eve Burst Error in their origonal format?

Estranged2

Bonetown!

Stixsmaster

Manhunt 2 has always been uncensored on PC. Secondly Carmageddon and Fahrenheit are also uncensored. So peeps need to get their info fixed.

mkell_226

@ bingo44 Actually, it's not really artistic liberty, as it is based on one of the original concept sketches. Anyway, there was an update to Rebirth that makes it more like the original in-game version, just higher-poly count. It's much better, and creepier!

irgendjemand

Go uncut ! If I would have the choice to buy a Game here cut or uncut I would go to buy uncut - as long as it would be DRM free.

M-u-ddy

@DRM_free_fan The PC version of Bloodrayne was always censored.

PhanZero

Most games can be made uncut with a patch - shouldn't be too hard to find them. So I'm not against censored versions here, but I would like to know when they are. Then I can decide for myself (or look for a patch before buying).

TeamKiller

Manhunt 2 AO!

Blutarr

Manhunt 2 AO version? That would be great!

CthuluIsSpy

@ DRM_free_fan Yes, the Nazi iconography in Bloodrayne has been replaced, but it doesn't change the game play that much; other than the lack of swastikas, the soldiers still look like Nazis. There are no Nazis in Bloodrayne 2, so it doesn't matter.

bingo44

Mind you there are fixes for fallout 1 & 2. Hell there is even a mod for system shock 2 called rebirth that.......naw I'm not spoiling that artistic liberty. Mods will fix most of your problems :3

mkell_226

That explains it. It's not something that affects me much, as my tastes in games don't usually include the sort that are likely to have content issues that might lead to censorship; Fallout's the only one.

bingo44

GOG sells thing the way they are in Europe (As CDproject Red is Polish) thats why fallout is censored and the witcher isn't

mkell_226

Oh balls, I didn't know F1 & F2 were censored. I don't go around killing kids, so why the hell should I get a damaged product? If I'd known, I'm not 100% sure I'd have bought them.

projectoverkill

Manhunt 2 AO version! Don't be like Sony and Nintendo. Reason I love PC gaming is because of the freedom to play games how I want.

InfiniteClouds

Hmm, out of curiosity is the Hitman 2 Silent Assassin on here censored? All versions I can find outside of my original disc have an entire level REMOVED just because you can (though obviously not the goal or the mission) go on a killing rampage in some 'holy' location where a real massacre occured.

iamiko

In regards to the cut content for Fallout 2, this is on par with many of the release versions of Fallout 2, the reason being there are some serious international legal issues with having killable children in a game. Black Isle and Interplay released the cut content version to countries that kicked up a fuss about it legally. I am pretty sure "No Mutants Allowed", the Fallout fan site, had a workaround for the cut content though...

DRM_free_fan

I was looking at buying Bloodrayne & Bloodrayne 2 but now I am not sure. Can someone confirm if all Nazi image/references have been replaced?

Racksor

M15aNtHrOpE and vojtasass - exactly, that is what Telika is saying, that it's weird since they have "unaltered games" like (like Carmageddon, Farenheit, Witcher) when they then still censor other games. On-topic: What if that is how the companies want their games to be today? Many old companies have matured since then so maybe they chose it?

bouncedk

You gotta blame something for murdering people, why not games? Anyway, I support. Censoring is fail, especially in countries which has no censoring laws at all. I -will- demand a refund if GOG ever sells me a watered down version of a game.

vojtasass

Their own games censored? Are you kiddin' me? The Witcher games were never censored on GOG.

atsp9

I did love Manhunt 2.

M15aNtHrOpE

The Witcher 1 is uncensored. I bought the GOG version 2 years ago and all of the good parts were intact!

popperr61

manhunt and manhunt 2

Blackacidevil138

Vote for Condemned, Manhunt and Manhunt 2. :>

JAAHAS

I meant Fallout ***2***, the first game has been censored from the beginning in GOG.

JAAHAS

When has the GOG's Fallout been censored? I bought and downloaded it over a 50 months ago and at least that version had visible children. Trivia Time: Every version of Fallout 1 and 2 have the children in-game, the censored releases are just missing the sprites for them so targeting them directly is not possible although I seem to remember that the invisibility didn't make them invulnerable to collateral damage.

Cheater87

Would LOVE to see the PC version of Manhunt 2!

LordEbu

Censored games? Let them be for Germany, rest of the world deserves FULL games without stupid censorship...

TheSpartan

@n64ra Also some quests are broken in Fallout 2 because of it and you miss out on certain content in both games such as getting getting critical hits on children to the groin with a sledgehammer, becoming a childkiller and being forever hunted by bounty hunters and cast-out by all you deal with.

katakis

Aaha, that anti-censorship tirade was hilarious.

fisk0

@n64ra Fallout 1 and 2 have had all the children graphics cut out of the game. And that's pretty much only the graphics, the entities are still there, so in Fallout 2 you'll have the issue with items disappearing from your inventory, as in the uncensored version there are children around in the towns that will steal from you, and even though they aren't displayed anymore, their entities will still steal from you when you get too close to their spawn point.

Telika

Okay. Hmm guys. I'm happy we all agree on that, but, just to put things in perspective. It's like 3 or 4 games on 500 that are or were available here in censored versions, most of these edits being (all the more irritating) tiny details. It's just GOG getting their hand on a wrong, "incomplete" or "edited" version, due to publication history or geography. It's not a huge oppression of worldwide freedom of thought by the GOG cryptofascists. I just reproach them the slight laziness that consists in going "aah we secured the rights on that game, oh it's the slighty edited version, bah who cares" and in being satisfied with that, instead of keeping looking for the original version in its full artistic/humoristic integrity. It's warrant a vote in the features wishlist, but not certain overreactions in these comments (leaving gog forEVAAAR, etc). I mean, it's just, like, uh, hey, chill, guys. Beyond unfortunately stopping at the 1st version they get, there is no active censorship from GOG's side...

Sim_saiD

So now i have to check to see if the games are Censored? lol, there is always a catch.

KiNgBrAdLeY7

Censorship is the byproduct of fascism wearing the robes of democracy. If the democracy wasn 't utopian and dystopian, hearing and seeing everything unaltered, judging it for ourselves, would be. But enough philosophy. It is annoying, irritating, to have our entertainment watered down at will. Most of us are adult, can judge for ourselves and distinguish perfectly between phantasy and reality. It is annoying to have some people decide FOR us, WITHOUT us, what we can or what we should want to see, or not. Especially if said people are of certain nations, who unconsciously wage wars, kill innocent women and children, torture captives and promote real life debauchery, but when they see adult or gore scenes in a game, they censor it and shout for the entire world to hear. The hypocricy, the nerve...! Here GoG should make the difference. The DRM free revolution must be accompanied by the CENSOR-FREE revolution. That would grow community and gamers' in general respect. For those that are self-aware and have a life, at least...

creepandpeep

I was told about this site a week or so ago. .brilliant I thought! . . . thought I would get fallout on the go again after years. . then realised it was different, then noticed this thread. Won't be buying any more games from here.