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Create a system that gives you a CD-Key with any GOG purchase that needs it for multiplayer, to avoid contacting support.
You can find game keys on shelf - it's that not enough?
If I don't get the key the very moment you get my money, you won't get my money. I simply won't buy games like FarCry on gog.com as long as I don't get the whole package - which obviously includes any CD key that would be included in a usual box release.
important feature indeed!
In progress. Yay!
I have to agree with srbs comment about having a tab or something that lets us see all our keys in one place instead of having to search through the shelves.
Even though this in progress I believe it should be "OPTIONAL" to any GOG member!
Totally agree! Regarding "digital watermarking": It would be way too privacy invasive, and a really bad move in my opinion. In light of the recent ruling in EU - confirming the right to resell software no matter if it's boxed or a download - watermarking is even more troubling, and potential abuse would be difficult to predict.
(If were to sell a piece of software and destroy all my copies, my responsibility over it has ended. Yet it would carry my identity forever - in a situation were I can't (and don't have to) make sure the buyer does not distribute copies illegally...)
I agree with Bushwhacker2k's comment about being nonrestrictive; automatically hand out CD-keys for games that require them for multiplayer (such as ARMA: Gold) and have a tab in our game shelf that allows us to view them.
@Nagrand: GOG already sells loads of games with CD keys (required for multiplayer only). The only change that's taking place here is the introduction of a system to automatically allocate keys to those who bought the game, previously you had to request a key if you wanted to play multiplayer.
I think that those games that needs "keys" needs them for Multiplayer functionality so if not using then you probably won't need.
It is however a matter of principle for me that we are AUTOMATICALLY given a Key for all games that could need it - including for everything already bought !!!!!!!!!
I don't want to start an argument (might be too late already) but the anti-DRM argument states that DRM hasn't really been successful in stopping piracy anyway, so being as nonrestrictive as possible is a really ideal route to go, they aren't trying to bleed money out of as many people as they can, they're trying to release games that are hard to find these days cheaply and conveniently.
I actually haven't encountered the problem specified, I was under the impression there WERE no games in GOG that'd have problems like this.
As long as the use of "CD keys" not mean that one one have to go online for activatiob or if they are only for multiplayer then I think that it is OK - as long as we automatically get our CD key for everything that we have bought here.
What we download here COULD also already be digitally watermarked (for tracking of illegal copying) without that means that we could not install we have downloaded here as we please.
With respect to the issue if CD keys are DRM then , this is a wishlist comment area not a forum thread so I think that people ought to take the CD key - DRM discussion to the forum threads if they wish to pursue it....
To clarify, as posts cannot be edited: being DRM free allows for abuse and piracy. This is the cost of your freedom.
No, CD keys are DRM - the idea of being DRM free is that once you have the installer, you can play the game, with no strings attached. If you have the installer, but not the key, you do not have the "digital rights" to access your own property. CD keys are far, far more benign than some of the DRM systems we see today (such as SecuROM, always-online, etc.) but it would be healthiest to maintain a firm stance of "no", instead of complicating the situation by adding exceptions to the rule.
As for abusers, they can be IP-banned on a per-server basis, and cheats can be prevented with more robust code. This is admittedly less of a hurdle for the abuser than being forced to buy the game again, but DRM is DRM, and given the state of the industry we NEED retailers which take a firm stance.
I think that the use of "CD keys" are OK , but people should automatically get their keys for all the games that they have bought (also for their previous purchases) rather than having to "contact support" to get they key for a product they have paid for/bought !!!!
CDkeys especially for Multiplayer are only thing which can keep griefers, teamkillers, cheaters and people who steal the products away ...
they existed way before Your so called DRM term ... so read the decription of what DRM is ...
CD keys are a form of DRM and it is disappointing that GOG has turned its back on one of their own founding ideals.
We should have a one click OPTION to have sent keys for all the games that we have bought here rather than have to go through the games lists ourselves or having to ask for the keys.....
This would help a lot, and decrease requests to support.
Yup, it's already rolled out for HOMM V and we will be adding it soon for more games (incl. future releases that require CD-keys :)
Good news: The newly released HoMM V comes with automatic key assignment system! So this is at least "in progress".
Oh, oh, probably the best wish here so far.
this system would help a lot, lighten load on support and helps more titles to come by
It is a shame this is now missing. I would like to have a section in my account where to view all my current keys and not to be forced to safe-keep them in some other strange places like now.
I don't mind having to contact support to request a CD key, but a system of some kind would be very much appreciated. I e-mailed a couple of suggestions a little while ago and I was thinking they could make key requests and a log of keys associated to a user's account into a dedicated section of the messaging system. Alternatively, maybe it could be a field in the games collection, below each title's bonus content links and above the "forum," "support," "reviews," and "hide game" links, displaying "N/A," the CD key, or a button to request a key as applicable.
CD keys are usually generated developer or publisher-side. There's actually a finite supply of them 'in the wild'. GoG most likely do not have access to the algorithm used to generate CD-keys, or would have to negotiate in order to obtain it.
If a multiplayer game specifically needs a unique key for players then it would probably be easier for them to modify the game to nullify this checking feature.
They can probably pregenerate around 100 keys for each game and insert these keys into a database. When user requests the key and there is an unused keys left, the key can be automatically handed over to the user. Only if there are no more unused keys the "Contact support" option would show up. If they monitor the system, they can add more keys to the database to prevent it getting empty :)
GamersGate lets you get your keys from your account page, Amazon does too and it also downloads a HTML file with your key along with the game installer. I think every digital store handles this automatically in one way or another so it can't be that difficult to implement.
Yes, this would really be appreciated, they could do it like Humble Bundle or Gamer's Gate does it, where you click the "Get CD/Steam/Desura key" to get one, but take out the "Contact support" part of it.
Rezorrand - but they already give you a CD Key (when necessary) to access multiplayer if you ask. So, they do have the option to create / give out CD-Keys. It's just complicated.
I'm betting this would be rather difficult due to different algorithms used to create the CD keys. They'd have to go through each game that has such protection and make a generator for them. It'd probably be easier just to crack them. (unless the original creators have something against it of course). Tricky. :1
My CD-ROM edition of System Shock didn't come with a CD-key? :/