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Fallout 3 GOTY

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http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Fallout_3

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I would love to see Fallout 3 GOTY on GOG because a lot of people are running on windows 7,8.1 and 10 and i do not want downgrade to xp/vista just to play it and Fallout 3 is classic it was the first Fallout game that i play and itto me into the fallout series :)

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Comme on a pu avoir Morrowind, Fallout 3 peut lui aussi être une réalité sur le site maintenant !

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"Can this and ALL other Bethesda/Zenimax wishlist requests please be removed." Obviously too late for that now ;) But we still don't have F3 yet

Aug. 28, 2015
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I could easily buy this on Steam, but I've come to hate Steam in recent days. Alternatively I could just buy the boxed version, which fortunately doesn't require Steam, but then I'd be forced to keep the disk in the tray. New Vegas would be cool too.

Aug. 27, 2015
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+1 For this :) <br /> <br /> A few things though. The game works still in Win10. You need to install the GFWL client over at xbox, and it will work. No special things needed. <br /> <br /> The crashes that come after that, is due to the CPU in todays computers. It can't handle more than two 'cores'. Do this: <br /> <br /> in fallout.ini add: <br /> <br /> under [General]: <br /> bUseThreadedAI=1 <br /> iNumHWThreads=2 <br /> <br /> And if you have mouse issues add: <br /> <br /> under [Controls]: <br /> fForegroundMouseAccelBase=0 <br /> fForegroundMouseAccelTop=0 <br /> fForegroundMouseBase=0 <br /> fForegroundMouseMult=0 <br /> bGamePadRumble=0 <br /> <br /> Done. Should work just fine now. <br /> <br /> <br /> And what's up with 'this game isn't old'? Gog sells just released titles these days too. Frankly I hope they do sell Fallout4 here at launch, since these guys will make sure the game works over time, a win for everyone. <br /> <br /> Just my thoughts anyway :) <br /> <br />

Aug. 27, 2015
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J'ai essayé de rejouer à Fallout 3, mais il marche pas sur Win7, j'imagine qu'il faut faire des manips mais franchement... Pas envie, ça me soule ! <br /> Faudrait vraiment qu'ils le mettent sur le site

Aug. 23, 2015
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Words cannot express how desperately GOG needs to distribute and maintain/update Fallout 3 GOTY, DRM free. I would pay $100 for it to be added to my GOG account, seriously.

Aug. 13, 2015
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I have windows XP but since they stopped supporting April 2014 I feel the need to get a new OS, but I still want to play this game without much hassle over mods. It would be nice if I could buy the game here with all of that taken care of for me.

Jul. 15, 2015
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I absolutely love the entire fallout series, but fallout 3 takes first place for me. Fallout 3 was what got me in to the entire series and I have been hocked ever since. Yet getting this game to work on a modern system is futile, unless you have several hours to waste on reading forum posts, and running trial runs of your modded game. <br /> Please GoG restore this great game to a playable state.

Jun. 26, 2015
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Pls add it to GOG i have bought GOTY on steam and its impossible to play to this day on PC with windos 7 and 8 apparently without doing tons of fixes. I want to finish this game atleast before Fallout 4 comes out and hopefully New Vegas aswell but my Steam version is unplayable.

Jun. 22, 2015
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Need Fallout 3 on GOG badly, uncensored English version without GFWL

Jun. 13, 2015
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I've been checking the Search for F3 GOTY, waiting for GoG to pick it up. Hoping very much it'll become available here.

Jun. 11, 2015
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Nice.

Jun. 9, 2015
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:D <br />

Jun. 9, 2015
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If <a href="http://GOG.com" class="light_un" target="_blank">GOG.com</a> could get this to work on newer computers, that would be amazing since Steam and Bethesda seem to have dropped the ball on that.

Jun. 8, 2015
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With the announcement of Fallout 4, I'd love to replay Fallout 3 again. But all I have is the original CDs, which won't work with Win 8.1 without tons of stupid mods and tweaks (considered rebuying on Steam but apparently it's the same issue there). So please add it here!

Jun. 5, 2015
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To be honest, I don't even like Fallout 3 that much but, even with that said, I'd simply love to see FALLOUT 3 on GoG. Might be my second least liked Fallout game (because we can all agree Brotherhood of Steel was the worst regardless of tastes and opinions) but it'd be nice for it and the other FALLOUT games to be placed on GoG. Heck, I know I'd certainly purchase NV again, legally purchase GoG 1, 2 and tactics, and get 3 on a discount. <br /> <br /> Long live the death of Windows Live!

Jun. 4, 2015
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modding this game on windows 7 with steam's forced DRM and updates is a real pain. I'd totally buy this again on GoG.

May. 12, 2015
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This would be awesome - Fallout 3 on Windows 8 without DRM-crap ! <br /> GOG, please save us :-D

May. 10, 2015
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And make it work in Windows 7 please :)

Apr. 11, 2015
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i never played this game but would like to give it a go and certainly only if on GOG bearing in mind the difficulties that people seem to be having when obtained from other sources

Mar. 21, 2015
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Need this game !

Mar. 20, 2015
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Pleeeeeeease, bring it DRM-Free and UNCUT for sure. Also, was this not such a bad Windows Live game? Since Win Live now is dead, it would be cool, to bring us this masterpiece. If this would happen, I would hail <a href="http://GoG.com" class="light_un" target="_blank">GoG.com</a> a lifetime for sure.

Feb. 22, 2015
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Steam version doesnt work. . . save us GOG

Feb. 12, 2015
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It depends on ZeniMax.

Jan. 28, 2015
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Hope to see this great game and to work on windows 7 and modern OS

Jan. 22, 2015
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If only it were on GOG and for Linux. FO3 is hands down the best game from a gaming perspective I have ever played in over twenty years. DRM, steam and Bethesda have screwed me out of ability to play the game. As they did with Skyrim, FO New Vegas and even Elder Scrolls. Would I purchase it on here if it appeared. Perhaps but I will cross that road if it ever appears. The only reason I would hesitate is because technically I own the following copies: <br /> <br /> 3: FO3 <br /> 2: ESO IV <br /> 1: Skyrim <br /> 2: FO NV <br /> <br /> How many can I play? <br /> <br /> 0

Dec. 27, 2014
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Oct. 30, 2014
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I would love to see a FO3 that isn't prone to crashing on Windows 7, when it's modded. Right now my experience is trail and error, reinstall and redo the steps if it crashes. Neither the Steam nor disc versions are optimal for Windows 7. Please GOG, make it happen.k

Oct. 28, 2014
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A Windows 7 compatible version of Fallout 3 GOTY, I will pre-order that. I can get the STEAM version to work, but can't get it work with mods on Windows 7.

Oct. 22, 2014
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It would be great if this game will appear at GOG.com. I'll be waiting for this moment with impatience!!!

Sep. 16, 2014
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if this happened and gog fixed it for newer versions of windows i would abandon trying to fix my steam version forever and play the shit out of this one

Jul. 6, 2014
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I'm sure even the steam-version runs on Win 7, doesn't it? It just isn't optimized for Windows 7.

Jun. 24, 2014
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Please make it work for windows 7 :C <br />

Jun. 15, 2014
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The PC Version goes down the drain in a couple of days... Still no patch in sight to remove f+++in GfWL. Please GOG... make us happy. :(

Jun. 13, 2014
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This game for me was a real blast. Every f*kin minute it was awesome, unfortunately the steam version doesn't run on windows 7. What a shame they sell video games without support for actual OS.

Jun. 1, 2014
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Of course this game should be part of GOG! It's Good, it's a Game and yeah, it's Old. <br /> Six years are a long time, especially cause the game is not working on Win7 in the Steam-Version.

Apr. 14, 2014
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Perhaps if this makes it to GOG, I'd finally play it.

Mar. 15, 2014
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I loved this game, would like to get it again.

Mar. 5, 2014
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I hope to see this in the collection fixed and ready for modern computers, man is this game a blast!! I so miss playing in the capital wastes.

Jan. 28, 2014
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Okay, It's not rather old, but if this doesn't get upgraded to steamworks, I would like to see a gfwl-less version here on GOG. And the games works without gfwl, modders did it back when the game came out

Jan. 6, 2014
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@Sslaxx: why? It'd be counter-productive. The wishlists help rightholders see that there is a market for their games on GOG, which is the best asset in GOG's hands for negotiations. If requests for ZeniMax-owned games were censored, GOG would have no chance at all to ever change the ZeniMax suits' minds.

Jan. 5, 2014
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I've played Fallout's 1, 2, 3 and New Vegas, and for whatever reasons, Fallout 3 (GOTY edition) is my favorite. Would love to see it here on GOG (along with a Mod Spotlight ofc!).

Jan. 4, 2014
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Can this and ALL other Bethesda/Zenimax wishlist requests please be removed.

Dec. 31, 2013
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It's very good, and GOG is no longer just "Good Old Games," as they've made clear (and that's a good thing!). Grow up people.

Dec. 31, 2013
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this is the best game ever

Dec. 13, 2013
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If GOG could offer it and make it run better (or at all) on Windows 7 that would be awesome....

Dec. 10, 2013
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Some of these comments are straight up ignorant, like the one before mine. I have this on my Xbox and Steam but I'd buy it here in a heartbeat at any price. The modding capabilities behind this game (which is a great game itself) are AMAZING

Nov. 25, 2013
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Not good and not old, so no.

Nov. 25, 2013
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And to those of you saying ''this is GOG''. Read this! <br /> <a href="http://www.gog.com/news/bigger_fresher_newer_see_whats_new_on_gogcom" class="light_un" target="_blank"><br /> http://www.gog.com/news/bigger_fresher_newer_see_whats_new_on_gogcom</a> <br /> <br /> Not to mention the fact that Fallout 3 can already be considered an old game. But just in case you don't approve of that. <br /> <br /> GOG doesn't care

Nov. 4, 2013
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