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The Witcher 2Witcher 2 on Sony Vaio F series is unplayable(28 posts)(28 posts)
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Posted May 23, 2011
I get a pass on everything from:
http://www.systemrequirementslab.com/cyri/

The game itself detects my pc as beying able to play in high details

System
CPU: i7 Q740
RAM: 6 GB DDR3
GPU: Nvidia 425m 1GB

I can't play the game. I turned every detail off including ubersampling. I even tried to play on the lowest resolution possible. I tried all the things that the producer recommends (beta drivers, uninstalled 3dvision etc) . Even so, the game is unplayable(low fps).

Is my GPU really that bad? i mean i know it's not exactly high end but i've been able to play games like crysis, crysis2, starcraft 2, batman arkham asylum, fallout 3 etc on 1600x900 with high details (maximum on batman or fallout if i have AA off).

On top of this, when i try to play witcher 2, the system heats up really fast and all the fans start blowing like crazy.This doesn't happen in the other games.

Should i expect a fix to come along soon or is this the maximum performance i will get from this game.
Posted May 23, 2011
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fmm: I get a pass on everything from:
http://www.systemrequirementslab.com/cyri/

The game itself detects my pc as beying able to play in high details

System
CPU: i7 Q740
RAM: 6 GB DDR3
GPU: Nvidia 425m 1GB

I can't play the game. I turned every detail off including ubersampling. I even tried to play on the lowest resolution possible. I tried all the things that the producer recommends (beta drivers, uninstalled 3dvision etc) . Even so, the game is unplayable(low fps).

Is my GPU really that bad? i mean i know it's not exactly high end but i've been able to play games like crysis, crysis2, starcraft 2, batman arkham asylum, fallout 3 etc on 1600x900 with high details (maximum on batman or fallout if i have AA off).

On top of this, when i try to play witcher 2, the system heats up really fast and all the fans start blowing like crazy.This doesn't happen in the other games.

Should i expect a fix to come along soon or is this the maximum performance i will get from this game.
I'm confused as to why The Witcher 2 is detecting High settings for your system, but only Medium settings with mine. As far as I know, my system is more powerful then yours.

Desktop
AMD Athlon 2 X4 630
8 Gig Ram
Radeon HD6850
1600x900 monitor
I play at Ultra settings with Depth of Fields, blurs, and Uber sampling turned off and I get 35-40 FPS, though 25+ FPS is still very playable with this game.

What is considered uplayable for you?
Posted May 23, 2011
I consider unplayable everything bellow 20 FPS. I may get over 20 FPS (just barelly) when i play in 720 x 480 with all the details turned off, but, well, I really can't play the game like this. 720x480 on a 1600x900 monitor is...well...i'm sure you know what i mean.

I'd be more than happy to get 21+ FPS on high with all the blurs and other stuff turned off so i'm not expecting ridiculous performances from this GPU. Unfortunatelly on this kind of detail level i only get about 10 FPS.
Posted May 23, 2011
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fmm: I get a pass on everything from:
http://www.systemrequirementslab.com/cyri/

The game itself detects my pc as beying able to play in high details

System
CPU: i7 Q740
RAM: 6 GB DDR3
GPU: Nvidia 425m 1GB

I can't play the game. I turned every detail off including ubersampling. I even tried to play on the lowest resolution possible. I tried all the things that the producer recommends (beta drivers, uninstalled 3dvision etc) . Even so, the game is unplayable(low fps).

Is my GPU really that bad? i mean i know it's not exactly high end but i've been able to play games like crysis, crysis2, starcraft 2, batman arkham asylum, fallout 3 etc on 1600x900 with high details (maximum on batman or fallout if i have AA off).

On top of this, when i try to play witcher 2, the system heats up really fast and all the fans start blowing like crazy.This doesn't happen in the other games.

Should i expect a fix to come along soon or is this the maximum performance i will get from this game.
This game is going to chew up and spit out a rig that overheats at full power. Sony Vaio F and C models are notorious for running really hot. Sony had to recall a lot of them last year for it. What happens if you run Furmark? Does it reach a stable temperature, or overheat?

The 425m is well below minimum spec, though you've been able to get the game to play at some settings; that's similar to what others with below-minimum setups have seen. "Can you run it" and the autosetter seem to look only at VRAM and ignore how fast the GPU can crunch pixels.

I don't know what improvement we will see. This game has an entirely new engine, and there is presumably room for optimization. But how much is done, and how fast it gets done and gets released, is an open question.
Post edited May 23, 2011 by cjrgreen
Posted May 23, 2011
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fmm: I get a pass on everything from:
http://www.systemrequirementslab.com/cyri/

The game itself detects my pc as beying able to play in high details

System
CPU: i7 Q740
RAM: 6 GB DDR3
GPU: Nvidia 425m 1GB

I can't play the game. I turned every detail off including ubersampling. I even tried to play on the lowest resolution possible. I tried all the things that the producer recommends (beta drivers, uninstalled 3dvision etc) . Even so, the game is unplayable(low fps).

Is my GPU really that bad? i mean i know it's not exactly high end but i've been able to play games like crysis, crysis2, starcraft 2, batman arkham asylum, fallout 3 etc on 1600x900 with high details (maximum on batman or fallout if i have AA off).

On top of this, when i try to play witcher 2, the system heats up really fast and all the fans start blowing like crazy.This doesn't happen in the other games.

Should i expect a fix to come along soon or is this the maximum performance i will get from this game.
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eisberg77: I'm confused as to why The Witcher 2 is detecting High settings for your system, but only Medium settings with mine. As far as I know, my system is more powerful then yours.

Desktop
AMD Athlon 2 X4 630
8 Gig Ram
Radeon HD6850
1600x900 monitor
I play at Ultra settings with Depth of Fields, blurs, and Uber sampling turned off and I get 35-40 FPS, though 25+ FPS is still very playable with this game.

What is considered uplayable for you?
because all it detects is

number of cpu cores

Vram

system emory
and its its a laptop or not


so all it sees is

(his)

4cores, 6gb ram, 1gb Vram and its mobile

but yours it sees

2Cores, 8gb ram, 1-2gb Vram (depending on what you chose) and its not mobile

the cpu cores seems to take the largest president here.
Posted May 23, 2011
My suspicion would be that given the performance issues quite a few desktop users are having, laptops aren't going to run it well unless they have a solidly top-tier setup -- while a laptop GPU may have a similar architecture and processor to a desktop version, it'll also likely have slower clock speeds and lower memory bandwidth.

notebookcheck.com puts the 425m well into the second tier.
Posted May 23, 2011
"425m is well below minimum spec"
That's sort of confusing, the game shouldn't detect my system as being able to run the game on high, and also http://www.systemrequirementslab.com/cyri/ should not give me a pass on everything. Also considering the fact that this pc runs some pretty hardware consuming games like crysis (1 and 2) on 1600x900 with high details, you'd expect it to be able to at least run this game in low to medium settings. If this is really all the performance i can squeeze out of this system, then I'm really disappointed in the way this game is optimized.

"What happens if you run Furmark? Does it reach a stable temperature, or overheat? "
Stable temperature, as with all the other games that i mentioned.


It's a damn shame...i have been waiting on this game for a long time. I'm not a gamer, i only buy games as presents for my little bro to play on his computer and only test to see how they run on my laptop but every once in a while i play RPG's that get my attention (mass effect 1 and 2 and the first witcher are the only games i played in the last 5 years) Looks like i'll have to wait for Mass Effect 3. Mass Effect 2 ran with all the details maxed out with not a single twitch so i don't expect to have the same problems with the new one like i have with Witcher 2 :)

Have fun playing it guys. Thanks for all the replies and the info. Cheers
Posted May 23, 2011
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fmm: "425m is well below minimum spec"
That's sort of confusing, the game shouldn't detect my system as being able to run the game on high, and also http://www.systemrequirementslab.com/cyri/ should not give me a pass on everything. Also considering the fact that this pc runs some pretty hardware consuming games like crysis (1 and 2) on 1600x900 with high details, you'd expect it to be able to at least run this game in low to medium settings. If this is really all the performance i can squeeze out of this system, then I'm really disappointed in the way this game is optimized.

"What happens if you run Furmark? Does it reach a stable temperature, or overheat? "
Stable temperature, as with all the other games that i mentioned.


It's a damn shame...i have been waiting on this game for a long time. I'm not a gamer, i only buy games as presents for my little bro to play on his computer and only test to see how they run on my laptop but every once in a while i play RPG's that get my attention (mass effect 1 and 2 and the first witcher are the only games i played in the last 5 years) Looks like i'll have to wait for Mass Effect 3. Mass Effect 2 ran with all the details maxed out with not a single twitch so i don't expect to have the same problems with the new one like i have with Witcher 2 :)

Have fun playing it guys. Thanks for all the replies and the info. Cheers
That's why I said the CYRI check and the autosetter are inadequate. All they look at is VRAM. They don't look at how fast the GPU can crunch pixels, and here they are dealing with a game that throws heavy textures at it like Goose Gossage threw fastballs.

By your reasoning, you should be able to run the game on a 1GB 9400, because CYRI and the autosetter will see a 1GB GPU and give it a pass, but of course you cannot, unless you enjoy slideshows.

Until we get system tools that actually look at things like how many shaders the GPU has and how fast it actually pushes pixels, we will get misleading results like the ones that led you to believe the game would be playable for you. It's sad, and I feel sorry you don't think you'll be able to enjoy the game, but not every modern computer can run every modern game.
Posted May 23, 2011
Yeah i know system tools are not to be trusted, but the solid performance in all the other games i tried until now and the decent results in the benchmarking softwares gave me some confidence :) It's no problem, i just like playing rpg's once in a while and would have enjoyed this. I'm not gonna switch my vaio because of it though, i only had it for a year and it runs very fast on everything else i need to do with it (like video editing and 3d modelling/rendering).

So anyone viewing this post thinking about getting one don't think i'm complaining about the laptop, i definitely recommend it. Just don't expect to run the witcher on it :D

Ps: very nice forum, lots of replies in a short time. Thanks guys ;)
Posted May 23, 2011
Have you tried it in windowed mode? If it plays other games pretty well, maybe it's just a driver issue. Some people with high end gear are having trouble getting good frame rates. Maybe the next new set of drivers from NV will straiten things out for you.
Post edited May 23, 2011 by filthymcnasty
Posted May 23, 2011
Looking at the performance of your GPU (http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-Geforce-GT-425M.34152.0.html), it seems it's right where my Mobility 4670 is, and I also can't run Witcher 2 well enough. Lucky for me though, I also have a desktop.

Unfortunately, these are mid-range cards, even for laptops, and a couple generations old.
Look at that chart, they're basically under the Radeon HD5570, which is a pretty crappy card.

Now, it may be that it's a driver issue, as the poster above me said, or it needs some optimization, but I wouldn't expect miracles through patches...
Post edited May 23, 2011 by djlethal
Posted May 23, 2011
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eisberg77: I'm confused as to why The Witcher 2 is detecting High settings for your system, but only Medium settings with mine. As far as I know, my system is more powerful then yours.

Desktop
AMD Athlon 2 X4 630
8 Gig Ram
Radeon HD6850
1600x900 monitor
I play at Ultra settings with Depth of Fields, blurs, and Uber sampling turned off and I get 35-40 FPS, though 25+ FPS is still very playable with this game.

What is considered uplayable for you?
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cloud8521: because all it detects is

number of cpu cores

Vram

system emory
and its its a laptop or not


so all it sees is

(his)

4cores, 6gb ram, 1gb Vram and its mobile

but yours it sees

2Cores, 8gb ram, 1-2gb Vram (depending on what you chose) and its not mobile

the cpu cores seems to take the largest president here.
My CPU is 4 cores, not 2. So it still does not make sense why the configuration Tool recommends High for him and Medium for me.
Posted May 23, 2011
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cloud8521: because all it detects is

number of cpu cores

Vram

system emory
and its its a laptop or not


so all it sees is

(his)

4cores, 6gb ram, 1gb Vram and its mobile

but yours it sees

2Cores, 8gb ram, 1-2gb Vram (depending on what you chose) and its not mobile

the cpu cores seems to take the largest president here.
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eisberg77: My CPU is 4 cores, not 2. So it still does not make sense why the configuration Tool recommends High for him and Medium for me.
well are you running xp?
Posted May 23, 2011
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eisberg77: My CPU is 4 cores, not 2. So it still does not make sense why the configuration Tool recommends High for him and Medium for me.
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cloud8521: well are you running xp?
Nope Windows 7 Professional 64-bit
Posted May 23, 2011
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cloud8521: well are you running xp?
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eisberg77: Nope Windows 7 Professional 64-bit
how much extra memory is it giving your video card (visible on dxdiag)
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