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Posted October 03, 2013
Re-charge and go!

Re-Volt, a dynamic racing game with tons of fun and excitement that only RC toy cars could possibly provide, is available on GOG.com, for only $5.99.

Go through the pipe, use the cardboard ramp to jump across the puddle, zip through the hole in the picket fence and take a sharp turn to fit on the sidewalk. Look at your opponent, he didn't make the turn, and now his car tumbles into the storm drain. Oh no! The battery runs low, and the finish line is still fifty feet away. Time to use the boost, you were saving through the whole race! Wooosh!!! Damn that pidgeon, why did he had to be in the way. Nevermind, the finish line. So close. Battery failing. So slow. Oh no, the buzzing of a tiny engine just around the corner. Get pass the finish line. Now. Victory!

Re-Volt will make your inner child squeal with joy! If you ever got to play with RC cars (or, really, any other type of toy cars as there is no limit to child's imagination), you will find the same whimsical excitement in this fantastic, colorful game. With many types of RC cars to choose from, a great selection of imaginative tracks improvised in some of the most unexpected places, and dynamic gameplay nicely conveying the "light" physics of toy cars. If you're looking for a racing game packed with tons of fun, this classic title is a safe pick for you!

Batteries and plastic can easily prove to be far more exciting than gasoline and metal in Re-Volt, on GOG.com, for only $5.99
Posted February 02, 2014
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Crosmando: Did this game make it to the bay before it got removed?
It did.
Posted February 02, 2014
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Skarma: I think it is time for me to step in here and adress a few of these posts for my (or should I say, some of our amusement.)

"To be honest the stance of the modding community makes me puke, they act like they own the game and have the last say in everything."

Glad to know that we cause you discomfort, we hope we do it more. We act like we own the game? What ARE you talking about?

"To the Re-Volt modding community.

Next time when the rights are for grabs, please buy it and put it where the sun don't shine and then get raped by a hoard of wild buffalo's so it will come out the other end and choke on it!"

So you are upset. Excellent! We've made you feel uncomfortable and mad at the same time! This is what we excell at doing by stating the TRUTH.

"I hate those guys for letting their miserable drama block the sale of the game. I hate them even more that they are happy with the game's removal. Congratulations dumbasses for making this game digitally available only through piracy."

But you have no objection to WeGo taking something that wasn't created by them and without permission from it's authors being sold? Does that sound acceptable to you?

"Hey! Barack Obama is the president of the US! I don't like him for that!

"Yeah? Well, I don't like you because you don't like Barack Obama!"

Your logic is absolutely silly. We are happy with the game's removal SOLELY because it has been stolen. You should do your research first. Another happy customer.

"I do not hate them, but I guess it's a dumb move."

Stopping theft is dumb, is it?

"Their love Re-volt and even though they don't want it to be available for sale."

Please, try to find ANYTHING that anyone has said that either says or implies "We do not want Re-Volt to be for sale, ever again." Oh what, you can't? Because none of us said that? That's what I thought...

"It's not like they are loosing money. IMO they should just ask to be credited, and let WeGo use their work - after all, they claim to love that game, and yet their stance make it impossible for people to buy it."

But they didn't credit the authors, did they? Nor did they actually contact the authors, did they? Nor did they respond to any correspondence from the authors, did they?

Oh, we MAKE it impossible, do we? How exactly? "Because you got Re-Volt removed, HURR DURR!" What, because we don't think it is right for them to sell something that doesn't belong to them? Really...?

"I wouldn't be surprised if that was their goal all along. Some of the posters have written some pretty ridiculous stuff acting like WeGo stole the game from their hands and demanding from them to release the game freeware."

That is because it IS stolen, can you not read? And what was our goal exactly?

As I've stated before, YES, we DO hate them because we do not appreciate what they are doing to Re-Volt. But the iOS releases and "Re-Volt 2", hate them as we may but we can't do anything about that so the best thing we can do is just not care. If they had actually put more time and effort into actually creating a decent game AND if they had actually acted professionally like a company SHOULD do, then we wouldn't really have much of a problem. But stealing something from a community, their rather poor representation and coming back to kiss our arses is NOT professional, hence why all this "drama", as it is being called, is unfolding.

As for our community members who post such ridiculous things such as "hanging yourself", that's up to you to distinquish whose opinion is actually liable or not. That does NOT go for all of us.

If it upsets you, good...

Do I need to elaborate more?

TL:DR: You're all happy with buying something that's stolen? Wow....
The only thing that has upset me is that you haven't choked yet, personally I don't care about your stupid game anymore.
Like I said but you didn't quote me on that becuase of your petty attempt to save your face here, I said that what WeGo did was wrong.
The thing is your community has proven to be nothing more but a bunch of intollerant bastards with statements like they can't even communicate in English, well why don't you try to communicate in Korean, your just as linguistic illiterate as the people you so desperately try to demonize and even blame them for monetizing the game by making a sequel because we all now Koreans can live of thin air and the found the rights in a cereal box.
The complete unwillingness to cooperate on any level makes me wonder, if the game was really that important to you, why the f**k didn't you buy the rights yourselves.
Please take your game, I hope no one will ever play it and come in contact with you volatile people and you can't pay for serverrent anymore and it slowly dies.
Posted February 02, 2014
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Strijkbout: The thing is your community has proven to be nothing more but a bunch of intollerant bastards with statements like they can't even communicate in English, well why don't you try to communicate in Korean, your just as linguistic illiterate as the people you so desperately try to demonize and even blame them for monetizing the game by making a sequel because we all now Koreans can live of thin air and the found the rights in a cereal box.
1) Did you have to quote the whole post?

2) These statements were meant as a reply to the question of WeGo on what would need to be changed for us to cooperate with them (as far as I understand)

3) We did not dislike the fact that they made a sequel (and money from it), we dislike how it was done (practically the same game with some simple minigames, in-app purchases everywhere and some retextured assets). Also this was again in reply to WeGo's question and does not really matter with the issue here on GOG.

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Strijkbout: The complete unwillingness to cooperate on any level makes me wonder, if the game was really that important to you, why the f**k didn't you buy the rights yourselves.
4) Are you even considering the fact that WeGo is just as unwilling to cooperate? Sure, they asked us (now after GOG took it off) but considering our answers I strongly doubt anything will happen at all on their side. Not to mention that we tried to reach out to them before all this happened without success, so excuse us for being a little frustrated with them.

5) As I said in my previous post here, WeGo Interactive could have just released the original game or made a simple patch of it. Did they do that? No, they had to use the community patch, fully aware of the fact that they did not make it and that they will never be able to give support for it since they don't have the code for that version.

6) We never knew at any point in time that they were for sale back when WeGo purchased them. And constantly pestering the people who owned it back then wouldn't have been a solution either, don't you think? But again, thats not the point of the discussion here.
Post edited February 02, 2014 by Zapeth
Posted February 02, 2014
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Crosmando: Did this game make it to the bay before it got removed?
Bay ?
Posted February 02, 2014
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Licurg: Bay ?
Yaarrrrrr, matey.
Posted February 02, 2014
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Skarma: You're all happy with buying something that's stolen? Wow....
And I thought WeGo doesn't know English oO

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Strijkbout: Let me get one thing straight, what WeGo did is inexcusable but [...]
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real.geizterfahr: They're right, it's a shit move to steal the modder's work and sell it. But [...]
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tfishell: Personally I hope GOG continues to respect the Re-Volt community, but [...]
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DukeNukemForever: It was for sure not a nice behaviour from WeGo to use the patch without mentioning the creators and their hard work, that was definitely not fine and should definetly be corrected.
Posted February 02, 2014
They do a bit but it doesn't seem to enough for successfull conversations. Their CEO's english is pretty good though. I guess people complained about the poor support they give:
We tried contacting them in english and korean and they completely ignored everything we sent to them.
Posted February 02, 2014
You know, if someone had told me years ago that such a shitstorm would happen over a late 90's game from Acclaim, I would have never believed them.
Posted February 02, 2014
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Strijkbout: The thing is your community has proven to be nothing more but a bunch of intollerant bastards with statements like they can't even communicate in English, well why don't you try to communicate in Korean, your just as linguistic illiterate as the people you so desperately try to demonize and even blame them for monetizing the game by making a sequel because we all now Koreans can live of thin air and the found the rights in a cereal box.
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Zapeth: 1) Did you have to quote the whole post?

2) These statements were meant as a reply to the question of WeGo on what would need to be changed for us to cooperate with them (as far as I understand)

3) We did not dislike the fact that they made a sequel (and money from it), we dislike how it was done (practically the same game with some simple minigames, in-app purchases everywhere and some retextured assets). Also this was again in reply to WeGo's question and does not really matter with the issue here on GOG.

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Strijkbout: The complete unwillingness to cooperate on any level makes me wonder, if the game was really that important to you, why the f**k didn't you buy the rights yourselves.
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Zapeth: 4) Are you even considering the fact that WeGo is just as unwilling to cooperate? Sure, they asked us (now after GOG took it off) but considering our answers I strongly doubt anything will happen at all on their side. Not to mention that we tried to reach out to them before all this happened without success, so excuse us for being a little frustrated with them.

5) As I said in my previous post here, WeGo Interactive could have just released the original game or made a simple patch of it. Did they do that? No, they had to use the community patch, fully aware of the fact that they did not make it and that they will never be able to give support for it since they don't have the code for that version.

6) We never knew at any point in time that they were for sale back when WeGo purchased them. And constantly pestering the people who owned it back then wouldn't have been a solution either, don't you think? But again, thats not the point of the discussion here.
Please don't reply if you aren't going to answer my question.

Your communities total incomprehention of WeGo's standpoint apals me as well.
The patch which you claim to be stolen, I bet you can't show any document or even a piece of used toiletpaper with a DNA signature on it that says you actually own the patch or did get the sourcecode it is based upon legitimate.
WeGo might as well assume you're a bunch of phonies.
Instead you opted to do the usual internet flaming and smearcampaign in the hope they will give in, boy am I glad this whole thing starts to explode in your faces.
Post edited February 02, 2014 by Strijkbout
Posted February 02, 2014
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Strijkbout: Please don't reply if you aren't going to answer my question.
What question?

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Strijkbout: I bet you can't show any document or even a piece of used toiletpaper with a DNA signature on it that says you actually own the patch or did get the sourcecode it is based upon legitimate.
Neither am I the person responsible for the creation of the community patch (or even part of their development, I'm just a member of the community) nor have I ever said that there aren't any eventual legal issues with the patch.

In fact I even posted it as a question to someone who might be able to give an answer to it in my pre-previous post giving every piece of information that I (and most others) historically know about the community patch.
Posted February 02, 2014
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Skarma: "I wouldn't be surprised if that was their goal all along. Some of the posters have written some pretty ridiculous stuff acting like WeGo stole the game from their hands and demanding from them to release the game freeware."

That is because it IS stolen, can you not read? And what was our goal exactly?

As I've stated before, YES, we DO hate them because we do not appreciate what they are doing to Re-Volt. But the iOS releases and "Re-Volt 2", hate them as we may but we can't do anything about that so the best thing we can do is just not care. If they had actually put more time and effort into actually creating a decent game AND if they had actually acted professionally like a company SHOULD do, then we wouldn't really have much of a problem. But stealing something from a community, their rather poor representation and coming back to kiss our arses is NOT professional, hence why all this "drama", as it is being called, is unfolding.

If it upsets you, good...

Do I need to elaborate more?

TL:DR: You're all happy with buying something that's stolen? Wow....
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Snickersnack: Is the Re-Volt community patch a derivative work of the stolen Xbox source? Can it be legally distributed without WeGo's blessing?
Quoting this so it will be seen again, since I find it an interesting question that was overlooked. I don't know much about the situation myself, as I just started reading through this thread today, so I am genuinely curious.
Posted February 02, 2014
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Strijkbout: Please don't reply if you aren't going to answer my question.
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Zapeth: What question?
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Strijkbout: why the f**k didn't you buy the rights yourselves.
I'll admit that I should have used a question mark.
Posted February 02, 2014
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DukeNukemForever: snip
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nadenitza: Does it mention who is the legit owner of the xbox source code, is it the koreans? Or someone out of existence? Does it have any owner anyway? I think this is of most importance in the matter.
Yes, code probably almost always has an owner, namely the creator or the legal successors of the creator. That's the law. You cannot just copy anything and must make sure that you have permission from all sources that you use or draw inspiration from. Otherwise the owners of the code can take legal actions.

I think this holds here in both directions. The community should just take legal actions against WeGe and see what happens. WeGe is not allowed to use their code (or their additons to their code) without their permission.
Posted February 02, 2014
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Strijkbout: why the f**k didn't you buy the rights yourselves.
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Strijkbout: I'll admit that I should have used a question mark.
Not to annoy you but I actually answered that question in my last point (though I admit that I edited it in some time later but long before you posted that other post).

And it doesn't really matter, this is not the point of the discussion (as I said in my other post).

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Trilarion: I think this holds here in both directions. The community should just take legal actions against WeGe and see what happens. WeGe is not allowed to use their code (or their additons to their code) without their permission.
Easier said than done. Also WeGo could always just put the original game instead and pretty much solve the whole problem for everyone here. Instead they don't seem to be doing anything.
Post edited February 02, 2014 by Zapeth
Posted February 02, 2014
This matter is far too long so I have not read through every page, but does the community patch need payment to download?
If not then the creators will not have gotten paid anyway, they should just take WeGo to court and demand that a level of compensation is distributed such as supporting their web servers for (x) years.
If you do need to be paid before someone can download the community patch then I feel you might find you are breaking the law.

Either way I am just fed up of games being dragged from sale due to small disputes that in the end do nothing to aid those who actually want to just play games and relax. In the end neither side actually created the game itself, one modded it to work on modern machines and the other just bought the rights from a bargain bin sale.

Now I am off to the Pirate Bay, I have already bought the game here but I now want to show support to those continuing to make games available. Paid is preferable, pirated is okay.
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