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Dark mysteries of the Irish shores.
Montague's Mount, a chilling trip to a dark Irish coastal island in search of your memories, sanity, and meaning, is available for pre-order 10% off on GOG.com. That's only $8.99, until the game is released on Wednesday, October 9.
[url=http://www.gog.com/game/montagues_mount][/url]Montague's Mount is an atmospheric first-person perspective horror game, that draws its thrills not from cheap tricks but ambiance and narrative. If you played Dear Esther and thought it could use some traditional narrative and more interactivity, here's what you bargained for. The game presents an intriguing and haunting narrative through the protagonist's comments (voiced by Derek Riddell), notes, and pieces of text. It's worth noting, that Montague's Mount might be the first game to extensively use the Gaeilge language, native to Ireland. With lots of intriguing puzzles, immersive gameplay, and chilling atmosphere, this title is a must have for all mystery and horror fans. The game supports English, French, German, Spanish, Polish, Russian, and Portuguese, and runs on both Windows and Mac OS X.
Let the dark and damp atmosphere of the Irish coastal countryside overwhelm and mystify you in Montague's Mount. Preorder the game now, for only $8.99. The 10% off discount offer lasts until the game is released, on Wednesday, October 8.
Gameplay videos, not really my bag :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLHQ8FRhRIw&list=PLnW4UBUfXiNzREnVDdlySFnAfIcbucT5U
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Psyringe: detailed evidence
As one of those that asked about the episodic nature of the game and was explicitly told that it's not, I'm quite disappointed now because if the game doesn't get closure I can't see myself playing it with it ending abruptly and sort of pushing the second (and last?) episode.
If the the second part doesn't get made for whatever reason, we're left with a terrible cliffhanger while told it's a complete experience.


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TurnipSlayerr: If this is indeed the case then I apologise. We were convinced that the episodic plans had changed and this was a full standalone game. Of course, with any game it is possible that the developer will continue the series. Personally I have not played the game and so I can't comment on how complete the experience is, only that I'd been told it was a full game.
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It's one thing a dev wanting and continuing a series (i.e. pick up where the first game actually ends) and a completely different one what we have here with Montague’s Mount. I assume that someone at GOG played it - I don't think that you just took the devs word that the game works on "Windows (XP, Vista, 7, 8) and Mac OS X (10.7 or newer)" as stated on the gamecard - but maybe didn't play it to the end? In which case the info about it being "a full standalone" game must have come from the dev? Because I can't believe that whoever at GOG played it passed it as a "full standalone" game after finishing it. Would it be fair to say that the dev misrepresented the game to you and as a result you to us?

It's actually quite sad that a promising release turned into this rather messy situation.
In any case this needs to be sorted out, in part because it already reflects negatively on GOG as you can see in this thread and the Release one.
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HypersomniacLive: Would it be fair to say that the dev misrepresented the game to you and as a result you to us?

It's actually quite sad that a promising release turned into this rather messy situation.
In any case this needs to be sorted out, in part because it already reflects negatively on GOG as you can see in this thread and the Release one.
If it's like that, the dev will never hear the end of it.

I too am very disappointed that I purchased such a buggy and incomplete game, it's been a long time since something like this happened. I've learned my lesson, no purchase until I see some reviews.
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HypersomniacLive: It's actually quite sad that a promising release turned into this rather messy situation.
In any case this needs to be sorted out, in part because it already reflects negatively on GOG as you can see in this thread and the Release one.
Hopefully internal discussions are happening at GOG to decide how to manage this issue. As of this writing the game card has not been updated to reflect the episodic nature of this game, which concerns me that sales may be continuing to add customers to the misled and ultimately dissatisfied queue.

Myself, I would withdraw the game from sale temporarily and flag all purchasers up to that point as being eligible to receive the second half of the game for free when released. Then repost the game giving accurate information for people who still wish to buy it knowing it is only the first half of the full game. Either that or withdraw it entirely until such time as it is complete, a la Cognition.
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HypersomniacLive: It's actually quite sad that a promising release turned into this rather messy situation.
In any case this needs to be sorted out, in part because it already reflects negatively on GOG as you can see in this thread and the Release one.
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IAmSinistar: Hopefully internal discussions are happening at GOG to decide how to manage this issue. As of this writing the game card has not been updated to reflect the episodic nature of this game, which concerns me that sales may be continuing to add customers to the misled and ultimately dissatisfied queue.
I suppose they want to hear the developer's comment on this before they alter the game description in a way that he could perceive as negative. At least that's what I'd do if I were in GOG's shoes.

I do think that the game description should be changed - it's rather weird that the game description raises several potentially interesting questions, of which the games answers none, but instead tells you that you need to buy the sequel to get the answers. (And currently we can't be sure that there will even be a sequel.) But I don't think that this will happen before the weekend - I'd be majorly impressed if it did.

In the meantime, I wrote a user review which (among other things, I find "WARNING!!!" oneliners a bit silly and thought I'd rather write a proper review) points out that the game does not provide closure to the story arcs it starts. But it hasn't been published yet. I have no experience with reviews on GOG, how long does it usually take until they are accepted? I sent it 23 hours ago, and it has to have registered in the system, since I don't see the option to add a review any more.
Post edited October 11, 2013 by Psyringe
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Psyringe: In the meantime, I wrote a user review which (among other things, I find "WARNING!!!" oneliners a bit silly and thought I'd rather write a proper review) points out that the game does not provide closure to the story arcs it starts. But it hasn't been published yet. I have no experience with reviews on GOG, how long does it usually take until they are accepted? I sent it 23 hours ago, and it has to have registered in the system, since I don't see the option to add a review any more.
I was hoping you would do so, in order to warn buyers before the system is properly updated to reflect the game content. I do not know what the turnaround is for reviews, as I've only written one or two in my time here. It may be that they are holding it pending while discussions unfold about how to best handle this game. Clearly this is a dicey situation for GOG and they would want to think through all their possible approaches before acting.
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IAmSinistar: Hopefully internal discussions are happening at GOG to decide how to manage this issue.
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IMHO, it's a serious matter in case there was indeed any sort of misleading from the dev's side - after all, a contract was signed, wasn't there?

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IAmSinistar: snip
As of this writing the game card has not been updated to reflect the episodic nature of this game, which concerns me that sales may be continuing to add customers to the misled and ultimately dissatisfied queue.
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And that's probably the worst part about the whole situation after the revelation of the game's episodic nature and completely GOG's responsibility.

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IAmSinistar: snip

Myself, I would withdraw the game from sale temporarily and flag all purchasers up to that point as being eligible to receive the second half of the game for free when released. Then repost the game giving accurate information for people who still wish to buy it knowing it is only the first half of the full game. Either that or withdraw it entirely until such time as it is complete, a la Cognition.
That sounds more or less in-line with how GOG usually rectifies bad situations.
I still think it's necessary for the dev to take his share of responsibility. The complete lack of any mention of the game's episodic nature on his site indicates that he's no innocent party; in this light it wouldn't be entirely fair for GOG to take all responsibility upon them - unless the dev was honest with them but they still managed to somehow screw up the release.
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IAmSinistar: Myself, I would withdraw the game from sale temporarily and flag all purchasers up to that point as being eligible to receive the second half of the game for free when released. Then repost the game giving accurate information for people who still wish to buy it knowing it is only the first half of the full game. Either that or withdraw it entirely until such time as it is complete, a la Cognition.
That, but I am not interested in getting episode 2, also, who knows if the dev is planning an episode 3 *kaching*

It would be better if all purchasers are eligible to receive some other game as free instead.
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Psyringe: In the meantime, I wrote a user review (...) But it hasn't been published yet.
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IAmSinistar: I was hoping you would do so, in order to warn buyers before the system is properly updated to reflect the game content. I do not know what the turnaround is for reviews, as I've only written one or two in my time here. It may be that they are holding it pending while discussions unfold about how to best handle this game. Clearly this is a dicey situation for GOG and they would want to think through all their possible approaches before acting.
Odd - I now see a link "See all reviews (6)" on the product page, but when I click it, I only see the two reviews that are already shown on the main page, and then I get an empty list when I click on "Next". Is anyone able to access all 6 reviews?
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IAmSinistar: I was hoping you would do so, in order to warn buyers before the system is properly updated to reflect the game content. I do not know what the turnaround is for reviews, as I've only written one or two in my time here. It may be that they are holding it pending while discussions unfold about how to best handle this game. Clearly this is a dicey situation for GOG and they would want to think through all their possible approaches before acting.
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Psyringe: Odd - I now see a link "See all reviews (6)" on the product page, but when I click it, I only see the two reviews that are already shown on the main page, and then I get an empty list when I click on "Next". Is anyone able to access all 6 reviews?
There was a thread fairly recently about that bug affecting another gamecard, but I've forgotten which one.
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Psyringe: Odd - I now see a link "See all reviews (6)" on the product page, but when I click it, I only see the two reviews that are already shown on the main page, and then I get an empty list when I click on "Next". Is anyone able to access all 6 reviews?
Possibly their back-end code counts all the reviews submitted and not rejected, rather than the lesser count of those vetted and displayed. An easy oversight to make in programming, particularly in a data-driven application.
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Psyringe: Odd - I now see a link "See all reviews (6)" on the product page, but when I click it, I only see the two reviews that are already shown on the main page, and then I get an empty list when I click on "Next". Is anyone able to access all 6 reviews?
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IAmSinistar: Possibly their back-end code counts all the reviews submitted and not rejected, rather than the lesser count of those vetted and displayed. An easy oversight to make in programming, particularly in a data-driven application.
That would be easy to test though. Submit a review for a game and see if the number goes up. :)

Another possibility is that the system for retrieving and displaying the reviews chokes on my mine, which was pretty close to the 1500 character limit IIRC.

In any case, it's rather unfortunate. Whatever the reason is, I don't expect it to be addressed on a weekend.
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Psyringe: That would be easy to test though. Submit a review for a game and see if the number goes up. :)

Another possibility is that the system for retrieving and displaying the reviews chokes on my mine, which was pretty close to the 1500 character limit IIRC.

In any case, it's rather unfortunate. Whatever the reason is, I don't expect it to be addressed on a weekend.
Good solution, and valid point. Hopefully they'll sort out their response to this farrago over the weekend, which would be the optimal outcome. :)
Adokat also submitted a review, and it hasn't been posted yet.
The developer has responded to my mini-review on Greenlight, and has also introduced himself on GOG. He clarifies that the game has been split in two parts, of which the currently released product is the first. The product description will be fixed to reflect the actual product better. It seems that the somewhat silly stance of "This is a complete product containing all previously planned episodes" has been dropped, which makes me hopeful that an honest effort will be made to fix this.
Post edited October 12, 2013 by Psyringe