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Posted April 19, 2013
Survey Results: See what the future of GOG.com holds!

A few weeks ago we asked you to fill out a survey about some of the possible new areas of gaming that GOG.com might move into in the future. We also promised that we’d share the results with you, and they are below. Before we get to that, though, we did want to let you know what these mean to us:

1. We remain committed to bringing you guys the best games from all of gaming history, on both PC and Mac. This means that while we’re exploring ways to bring you new games, we also are committed to bringing classics back to life as well. This year alone has seen Omikron, System Shock 2, the Leisure Suit Larry series, Strike Commander, and even Daikatana!

2. DLC is a controversial issue, but something that has been in gaming—by another name—since the very early days. You guys seem to understand that it’s not possible for us to sign new games with all of their DLC (before it is even made) bundled in, and it looks like you’re willing to either buy DLC or not as you find it interesting. As part of our continual efforts to improve the user experience on GOG.com, we will be looking at new, better ways to present DLC in our catalog as well.

3. Selling episodic content before the “season” is finished is also something we’re looking forward to bringing you in the future, and you seem to agree.

4. Season passes—for both DLC and for episodic content—clearly have a mixed perception here. Season passes—if we do offer them—are something that we’ll approach with deliberation to make sure that we’re confident that the content that is promised will all be delivered.

5. Finally, we have somewhat conflicting information on the persistent multiplayer features; when discussed in a very abstract fashion (as it was in the first survey), it’s a very clear “no.” When mentioned in a specific game that we’ve shown you, it’s an equally clear “yes.” What we’re going to be sure of, going forward, is that we’re very careful that any game that we bring you guys with persistent multiplayer features will be at least as offline-friendly as Planetary Annihilation is.

One of the defining characteristics of GOG.com is that the games that we sell have no DRM; this isn't going to change, and we will continue to evaluate the games that we bring to you to make sure that they're not only great games, but great games that we think will fit in well with how we do business.

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Thank you for responding to our surveys in such large numbers. GOG.com would be a mere shadow of itself if it wasn't for its incredible, open, friendly, and active community--that is you!
Post edited April 19, 2013 by G-Doc
Posted April 20, 2013
I really think a lot of DRM hate is from people who have mild OCD and need EVERYTHING for every game they buy and play. So for them shit like Mass Effect armor packs is horrible money grabbing because they can't help but either buy it or feel weird about not buying it.
Posted April 20, 2013
I just hope GOG will not turn too much of their resources to hunt for this new stuff and neglect what most of us came her for.
Good OLD Games!!
Posted April 20, 2013
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StingingVelvet: I really think a lot of DRM hate is from people who have mild OCD and need EVERYTHING for every game they buy and play. So for them shit like Mass Effect armor packs is horrible money grabbing because they can't help but either buy it or feel weird about not buying it.
A little bit . . . I cure that problem by just not buying the game unless it is a complete edition.

Would you feel weird buying a book to sit down and read if you found out that there are conversations and smaller chapters missing? Sure you may get a decent story out of it, but you want to read the whole damn story first time round.

Or what about a movie, I can understand the release of theatrical and director's cut editions. One is made for a movie theater for general viewing while the other is more specialist for fans. But would you be happy if they released several different versions with different runtimes and different scenes missing?

I see little difference between selling incomplete games and incomplete books and movies. They don't provide a comprehensive gaming experience. I don't have the time to waste, I have a job, and responsibilities in my life. When I sit down to play a game, that time is often pretty precious and I want to know that when I pay good money, I get a complete bloody gaming experience!

Yes I may be slightly OC, but it sure as hell does not make me wrong.

P.S. I support good quality DLC and expansions when it means that good games get continued support over time. I support GOG selling DLC and expansions if it means they can get good new games, as long as they seek to get all the DLC and expansions and wrap it all up in a complete edition.
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Posted April 20, 2013
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Tanstaafl: I just hope GOG will not turn too much of their resources to hunt for this new stuff and neglect what most of us came her for.
Good OLD Games!!
They made a good point, that alot of their problems with releasing older games is technical. They need to put alot of man hours into getting the games running on modern systems. By selling new games, they are able to bring more DRM free games to gamers while getting more money which means they can subsidise the time spent to release older games.
Posted April 20, 2013
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MichaelFurlong: Or what about a movie, I can understand the release of theatrical and director's cut editions. One if made for a movie theater for general viewing while the other is more specialist for fans. But would you be happy if they released several different versions with different runtimes and different scenes missing?
But that's what great about games. They can offer a lot more entertainment for longer periods of time, and still bring more with DLC's that in majority of games isn't even nearly required to understand the overall story, not to mention making them an incomplete experience, they just expand it. It's easier to make these smaller games on the same quality as the main game, but it wouldn't be as easy to make some short film or TV series at the same quality as the movie it's based on, there've been stuff like that but none have reached the quality of the movie. Of course some developers do go a bit overboard with their DLC, for example Asura's Wrath that had the "true ending" and EA with their crap, but I think GOG will understand that we don't want any weapon or skin packs to be sold here even though actual gameplay content would be great IMO, and it's always optional, and as I said very rarely actually takes away from the main game.
Posted April 20, 2013
Some really interesting results from this survey it is good to see what the community wants.
Posted April 20, 2013
Well, even though I personally disagree with GOG's decision to make episodic games available episode by episode and making alpha/beta builds of games available for purchase, I respect the fact that the majority voted that they actually want these things without starting some ominous Latin chanting about GOG destroying itself.
Posted April 20, 2013
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Tanstaafl: I just hope GOG will not turn too much of their resources to hunt for this new stuff and neglect what most of us came her for.
Good OLD Games!!
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MichaelFurlong: They made a good point, that alot of their problems with releasing older games is technical. They need to put alot of man hours into getting the games running on modern systems. By selling new games, they are able to bring more DRM free games to gamers while getting more money which means they can subsidise the time spent to release older games.
All absolutely true, but because something is difficult it does not mean you just quit.
I do not believe that with this new change they will hire more people that will work only on new games.
More likely they will siphon people from projects we all love and hope for to see.
Posted April 20, 2013
*drops in*

Thanks for sharing the outcome of your survey GOG team. Have a bushel of eucalyptus leaves on me mateys.
Posted April 20, 2013
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MichaelFurlong: what about a movie, I can understand the release of theatrical and director's cut editions. One is made for a movie theater for general viewing while the other is more specialist for fans. But would you be happy if they released several different versions with different runtimes and different scenes missing?
Why - hello there Matrix!

Edit - for those interested, the term for today is: Transmedia Storytelling
Post edited April 20, 2013 by amok
Posted April 20, 2013
YES! PLANETARY ANNIHILATION IS COMING TO GOG! WOO!

Only fitting, considering its predecessor is here.
Posted April 20, 2013
I just want to say .. you guys are what the gaming industry needed. You are off course trying to make a profit but you guys care. I <3 gog.com .. I really do.
Posted April 20, 2013
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MichaelFurlong: Would you feel weird buying a book to sit down and read if you found out that there are conversations and smaller chapters missing? Sure you may get a decent story out of it, but you want to read the whole damn story first time round.
I don't think that's a good analogy. Try this instead: an author writes a fantasy novel. It sells well, so she writes a few short stories set in the same world and featuring the same characters and publishes them in various magazines (I'm thinking specifically of Ellen Kushner, if that somehow helps.) You can say that no longer have the "complete experience," but in fact, you have a perfectly complete, coherent novel, and you can decide for yourself if you now want to spend extra money to get more of the same.
Post edited April 20, 2013 by BadDecissions
Posted April 20, 2013
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amok: Actually - wikipedia definition. You know, the free open internet, edited by normal people...
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ERISS: Normal people surveying it, paid by governments or companies.
And Illuminati! And Reptilians!
Posted April 20, 2013
What is DRM? A login before launch? Multiplayer that has no LAN or local options? A third-party program that monitors use of provided applications? A CD-key?

I personally hate when there's no LAN option or local multiplayer. It's so anti-PC.

Maybe DRM means different things to different people, just like 'GOG' does now.
Post edited April 20, 2013 by xbeanx3000
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