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TStael: Could you pleas explain "distro" pray? It seems specific abbreviation, but it is not familiar to me.
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LiefLayer: linux kernel is the same for all linux distro but each distribution: different desktop enviroment + different packaging system and others minor thing.
Errrmm don't most Linux distros use different versions of the Linux kernel? I mean Mint 17.3 uses 3.19 last I checked while the distro I am on uses 4.4.1...
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TStael: Could you pleas explain "distro" pray? It seems specific abbreviation, but it is not familiar to me.
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LiefLayer: linux kernel is the same for all linux distro but each distribution: different desktop enviroment + different packaging system and others minor thing.
"Distribution version" I take it? What I might call "image" for Windows, say.
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LiefLayer: linux kernel is the same for all linux distro but each distribution: different desktop enviroment + different packaging system and others minor thing.
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JudasIscariot: Errrmm don't most Linux distros use different versions of the Linux kernel? I mean Mint 17.3 uses 3.19 last I checked while the distro I am on uses 4.4.1...
Am I naïve to ask - must there not be some minimum communality or standardisation at the core?

Say, we all have different bodies, but our heart performs a pretty clear function.
Post edited March 08, 2016 by TStael
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JudasIscariot: Errrmm don't most Linux distros use different versions of the Linux kernel? I mean Mint 17.3 uses 3.19 last I checked while the distro I am on uses 4.4.1...
I meant that they all use Linux kernel (a linux distro don't use NT kernel or BDS kernel)...
I know that linux community has not yet a standard.
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LiefLayer: linux kernel is the same for all linux distro but each distribution: different desktop enviroment + different packaging system and others minor thing.
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TStael: "Distribution version" I take it? What I might call "image" for Windows, say.
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JudasIscariot: Errrmm don't most Linux distros use different versions of the Linux kernel? I mean Mint 17.3 uses 3.19 last I checked while the distro I am on uses 4.4.1...
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TStael: Am I naïve to ask - must there not be some minimum communality or standardisation at the core?

Say, we all have different bodies, but our heart performs a pretty clear function.
No you are not naive to ask :) It depends on the distribution and their policies towards updating/upgrading their core parts, of which the kernel is definitely a core part.

For example, Mint is a derivative of Ubuntu and builds their distro based on whatever is the LTS (Long Term Support) version of Ubuntu and that includes using whatever the kernel that distribution uses. You can, of course, switch kernels in Mint 17.3 but it's not recommended unless you know what you are getting into :)

For rolling distributions ("rolling" means you install it once and just update the packages and software as new updates are released and this includes the kernel itself) the kernel, amongst other things, get updated to the latest stable released version and currently the latest stable version of the Linux kernel is version 4.4.4.

I do recommend doing some googling about this to draw your own conclusion as I am not an expert on GNU/Linux by any definition of the word :)

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JudasIscariot: Errrmm don't most Linux distros use different versions of the Linux kernel? I mean Mint 17.3 uses 3.19 last I checked while the distro I am on uses 4.4.1...
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LiefLayer: I meant that they all use Linux kernel (a linux distro don't use NT kernel or BDS kernel)...
I know that linux community has not yet a standard.
Ah OK, I get your statement now :)
Post edited March 08, 2016 by JudasIscariot
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TStael: Could you pleas explain "distro" pray? It seems specific abbreviation, but it is not familiar to me.
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LiefLayer: linux kernel is the same for all linux distro but each distribution: different desktop enviroment + different packaging system and others minor thing.
And thx, too, BoxofSnoo, of course! :-)

As said, in Windows context I'd probably call this "image."

Which to me would mean in simple words a standardised, or at least consciously intended, end-user set-up: operating system version, end-user interface and application versions best compatible.

Fair enough, or wrongly understood?

Having read on Linux on a patriotic fit, I meanwhile somewhat thought that the space of self-determination between the kernel and end-user packaging (or distro) and he input process is wider with Linux that say - PC.

But I admit that the concept of Kernel is fairly mysterious to me. I do not understand it, fair n square.

I know Touring Machine was inspirational for modern computing, but my issue with this logical machine was: a human will ask him- or herself a question, maybe imperfectly - but it is asked. Left to conceptual perfection, will not Touring Machine need someone to input that question?
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TStael: "Distribution version" I take it? What I might call "image" for Windows, say.

Am I naïve to ask - must there not be some minimum communality or standardisation at the core?

Say, we all have different bodies, but our heart performs a pretty clear function.
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JudasIscariot: No you are not naive to ask :) It depends on the distribution and their policies towards updating/upgrading their core parts, of which the kernel is definitely a core part.

For example, Mint is a derivative of Ubuntu and builds their distro based on whatever is the LTS (Long Term Support) version of Ubuntu and that includes using whatever the kernel that distribution uses. You can, of course, switch kernels in Mint 17.3 but it's not recommended unless you know what you are getting into :)
And Git? See below:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Git_%28software%29


I think the concept is brilliant - and I only know of it, because I am a bluaady Finn. I am not pro-tech, per se. I am mainly thinking of story driven games - they branch-out, or git-out a lot, based on dialogue choices.

On the core computing theme, I really do think there must be a core, yet maybe I am simple.

I press a mouse button as input, and I attack, as output (*) by gaming immersion. Kernel surely barters the core mechanics, and does not randomly assign them?

I do believe, with admiration that non-commercial OS may narrow the scope of Kernel, but surely a mouse click should be a gamer determined attack?


(*) With Dragon Age Inquisition, the kernel obviously repeated mouse&KB disdain one on one - I perso saw that a case against "Touring Machine"! ;-)
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JudasIscariot: Errrmm don't most Linux distros use different versions of the Linux kernel? I mean Mint 17.3 uses 3.19 last I checked while the distro I am on uses 4.4.1...
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LiefLayer: I meant that they all use Linux kernel (a linux distro don't use NT kernel or BDS kernel)...
I know that linux community has not yet a standard.
I put it to both of you, and anyone - that Linux is not random. An input is processed by Kernel, and there is output.

I click a foe, and I attack it.

There.

Judasiscariot - u suggest my foe should heal? Or what?
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BoxOfSnoo: I use Parallels. It works surprisingly well, though restricted to DX10 right now.
I really liked using Parallels; it feels the most, uh, Mac-y. Having said that, I'm no longer an exclusive Mac user so I have all my OSes preinstalled in VirtualBox VMs for the sake of cross-platform simplicity. It's good enough for my needs (though I do still have Parallels installed, if only for the included handy-dandy virtual disk mounter utility.)

CrossOver is my other go-to (and the one I try first, before booting up a VM) though it can be kind of hit and miss with regards to what I can get to run. Most of my Gog & Steam games work perfectly and it doesn't demand nearly as much overhead. They have been teasing DirectX 11 support in the near future, too. Also, FYI if you can wait until the US election, Codeweavers will no doubt be giving it away for free again (in exchange for your promise to get out and vote.)
Post edited March 08, 2016 by Darling_Jimmy