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Sorry if this is a stupid question ... Yesterday I bought two original games for my old PS2 in a reputable second hand shop and although both discs look like new - no thumb prints, no stains, no scratches - only one game works. The other is not even recognized by the console; it acts as if there was no disc in the drive.

I noticed that the game that doesn't work has a warning on the cover about being protected by technical means, while the one that's working hasn't. I've never heard of DRM causing issues on consoles, but, judging from my experience with copy-protected audio CDs, maybe protected discs are harder to read for older (perhaps more imprecise) lasers? Or is it just the disc not working anymore due to old age? Does anyone have experience with something like this?

Unfortunately I bought the game in another city, so I can't just bring it back (yeah, 'smart' move on my part, but I'd assumed they'd test these things before selling the games and the thought that the discs might not work didn't even cross my mind). Is there anything I can try and do or do I just have to accept that I lost 15 bucks due to my naivity? :/

EDIT: I remembered that I had this issue with another of my old discs, but in that case the disc was working before and the next time I put it in the drive, it was not recognized anymore. All other discs still work perfectly.
Post edited April 23, 2013 by Leroux
This question / problem has been solved by Iainimage
It's possible that the discs that aren't working are dual layered. Try one of those laser cleaning discs in your PS2, might help.
Unfortunately this usually means that the lens on the drive is on its way out, same thing happened to my PS2 and I had to replace the drive on it.

You can get a replacement unit though, not to expensive and easy to install. Its only a few screws and a ribbon cable, just make sure you get the right unit for your model of PS2
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Iain: Unfortunately this usually means that the lens on the drive is on its way out.
This.
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Iain: Unfortunately this usually means that the lens on the drive is on its way out, same thing happened to my PS2 and I had to replace the drive on it.

You can get a replacement unit though, not to expensive and easy to install. Its only a few screws and a ribbon cable, just make sure you get the right unit for your model of PS2
Definitely this. I've had the same exact thing happen to two different PS2's, replaced the drive on one, now it reads everything fine. The other is basically a PSOne now, since those are the only disks it is guaranteed to read.
Same thing happened with my old PS2 for a couple of games. Couldn't play Half-Life 1 or Risk (maybe a couple others) because they weren't recognized by the system anymore. Apparently, blue discs are usually the first ones to stop being read by a bad lens, at least that's how it went with my experience.
Thanks to everyone who replied! How much did you spend on the new laser and did you exchange it yourselves or did you pay someone to do it?
When I did mine it was £40 for the unit, that was around 8 year ago though.

It depends on the model, if you have a slim then most parts are readily available, for the older model though they are harder to come by.

If it is a slim look on eBay, you can get anything for the slim and its really cheap with free delivery from Hong Kong. There are new lens units available for under £10 with the free shipping.

Fitting is really easy to do, no soldering required, it is literally ribbon type cables and a few screws, just pay attention when taking it apart, take a few photos as you do it so you know what you are doing putting it back together, will take around 15 minutes to do start to finish.


These guys ship Worldwide :

http://www.consoleparts4u.co.uk/sony-ps2-console-13-c.asp

Slim parts only and you need to get the correct part for your system, tells you on the label on the underside the model number.
Post edited April 23, 2013 by Iain
I paid ~$55 some years ago on mine... then I saw it for like $15 or cheaper... ...
It's an older model, SCPH-30004R. Hm, it seems to cost more than I was hoping for ... Maybe it's better to accept the $15 lost for now than to add another $40-50 and a risky operation on top of it. I'm 95% PC gamer anyway, I just play a little PS2 on the side. Maybe I should have rented or borrowed the game instead of buying it. :/
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Leroux: It's an older model, SCPH-30004R. Hm, it seems to cost more than I was hoping for ... Maybe it's better to accept the $15 lost for now than to add another $40-50 and a risky operation on top of it. I'm 95% PC gamer anyway, I just play a little PS2 on the side. Maybe I should have rented or borrowed the game instead of buying it. :/
Or just but a Slim PS2, you can get the system cheap now and at least if it does happen again parts are easier to acquire and a fair bit cheaper.
PS2 DVD drives are evil and spare parts are drying up. You may wish to consider leaving the drive alone and just running the game off your PS2's internal harddrive/ SMB network share/ USB storage with Open PS2 Loader. Open PS2 Loader can be launched from a common PS2 memory card with the FreeMcboot softmod.

http://opl.sksapps.com/


Compatibility for the most recent versions seems pretty good. The only games that have given me difficulty in my small library are Ratchet & Clank 2 &3, but your mileage may very.

One nice side benefit of setting up Open PS2 Loader is how it sets you up for emulation. The softmod makes it trivial to dump your PS2's ROM and you'll have your game disc images already prepared.




Many years ago, I used a guide to adjust the lasers on my 2 Ps2 fats such that they could play DVD games again (they had totally failed). It was an amateurish job and they certainly aren't as good as new, but I was able to play games on the again. They still work but I use them very lightly. It might be worth a try.

I think this was the guide:
http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2003/11/ps2-repair-guide/
You can still buy PS2 consoles somewhere? They have not been available in Australia for many years. I'd love to know where I could buy a new one (or two) as I neither of my PS2 Phats read games from disk any more, and despite trying many times I've never been able to get them to play images off a HDD either.

I have, quite easily, managed to get the games to run on PC. Unfortunately all my PCs are too old and while the games do run, they are not playable. Being able to buy a new PS2 would at least give me the option to play my games. At least until I get a PC powerful enough to play them instead.
What Iain said is true, it happened the same thing to me years ago. I could only read PS2 games in CD format, but not in DVD with single and dual layers. I had to replace the lens in an electronic service for game consoles. I think this was in 2004 and I payed quite a lot that time, like $50.000 CLP, more or less half the price of the PS2 console in Chilean pesos in those years, because my console's model was one of the firsts (SCPH-30001/97000) and that lens was expensive. I have no idea how much those lens costs now.
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Iain:
Actually I found it to be the gears that run the disc drive - there's some weird setting with them.