I don't see how it would end up being a bad thing, though. Look at indie games for example. It's not like they've suffered from baing sold for money. Quite the opposite. Since devs can make a living creating games, they have more time and energy to devote to them. I don't see how mods would be any different.

Not saying Steam's particular implementation of paid modding is good, just saying that I think the idea of paid modding might actually be a very good one.

St"EA"m and Zeni$max killed free modding this weekend, selling mods as 3rd party DLC now, giving the modders only 25 % revenue before taxes, robbing them for that price of their distribution rights. Steam takes 30% Zenimax takes 45% of the income.

Letting the modders alone with lawsuits, have a "NO REFUNDS" politic after 24 hours and were forced to take back at 1 of these starterpack 3rd party DLC due copyright infringements, but it seems 2 will follow soon... mostly all mods are based on the work of others, so every "3rd party DLC" is basicly a "lawsuit to happen" soon.

They fill their pockets with the work of some "useful fools" of the modding community, who don't have the slightest clue how expensive exclusive distribution rights are ... and won't do anything of quality control, or update, to even guaranty, thet these mods work after the next patch, or work together at all.

.... And they will use this "3rd party DLC" model in all other future games. Additionally await DRM in mods in the future, and therefore pirated or even illegal mods. And mod tools, that will be inegrated in this model.

... And stay tuned for DMCA takedown notices for all mod sites, that hosts any mods. That is only the logical step, if they want control the market.

... welcome to a new money grub, robbing all modders of their motivation for modding at all. ANd don't forget the frauds, that already rear their ugly heads, stealing other peoples work, and selling it now on the workshop.

Life sucks. Big time. Another hobby dead ...

This is important,because it will change the game world in general, It's not a steam phenomena.

If you don't believe me, as Chesko a famous modder on the nexus, what he thinks about the new business model from steam ... But wait, you can't ask him, because he basicly quit modding, after been thrown under the bus by st"EA"m. He realized, that he OWNS HIS WORK not any longer!

He need's a long pause, to clear his head.

YES, right, this will help modding!

And do not wait for the unofficial patches in the usual buggy Bethasda games. Without free modding, they will not happen. So do not even bother buying Fallout 4 or the new Elder scrolls game. You know how bugridden the vanilla games were.

Uh, no offense but the guy jumped in headfirst when they dangled a carrot in front of him. He knew he didn't really have enough time and did it anyway. He admits his own mistakes to some extent there. Then he gets shocked that, after he sold his mod to people on Steam that he can't take that mod from them. What did he expect?

Why exactly would this not happen anymore? People do that because they want a working game. And people will want Fallout 4 to work.

You can't exactly copyright a piece of code to someone else's game. If someone tries to sell it, someone can simply take the same fixed code and upload it for free. Or even more likely, once someone puts it up on the workshop, Bethesda has the right to incorporate that fix into their own game.

wouldn't it be better to post this is on steam fourms or up valve's ass, then posting here where people dont give a shit about steam

I believe it has something to do with steam banning people who complain on their real

Except the forums are full of people who are complaining about it yet who are not banned, unless you mean the banned ones are coming here :)

Im ok with the paid mods if the mod quality its like Falskaar for Skyrim as an expample, If the modders do a reskin of an armor and they sell for 1$ this a joke. The % that the modders get is something that need to be changed..

I just think that people wanting to vent and being too afraid to do so in Steam's forums would explain some of the whining we've seen here. Not all of it, not by a long shot, but some.

Steam deserters are welcome here,but how about you keep your Steam bitching
on Steam at Steam and not here?

Seriously.

Much more of this and I bust out the mouse necro and no I'm not joking.

Yes,Seriously.

I WAS AGREEING WITH YOU! P

I guess it came out wrong. I meant to say that of the bitching goes on I'm going to lose it myself.

Sorry,my miss understanding (not fully awake as yet):-)

It wasn't your miss. I couldn't have worded my post any worse if I'd tried.

No problems,friend:-)