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If you read the tagline, what more is there really to add? Our Ultimate Square Enix promo offers you the chance to get games from some of the most exciting series with a nice 50% off discount. Square Enix catalog features some of the most impressive gems in the GOG.com offer. Titles that evoke memories and emotions in thousands and thousands of gamers. The character cast of the Square Enix stable alone is impressive enough to make one's heart race. If GOG.com had a red carpet, celebrities such as Lara Croft, Garret the Master Thief, Agent 47, Kain and Raziel, and JC Denton would arrive to walk it on a limousine marked by Square Enix logo. Let's take a quick look at the featured games, shall we?

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Below, you'll find a new episode of This Week on GOG, a short video guide to recent events, promos, and other happenings on the site. By the way, if you haven't already, you might want to follow the GOG.com channel on Youtube, so you won't miss our shows, specials, and exclusive trailers.

This Week on GOG episode 13
Post edited February 08, 2013 by G-Doc
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Soyeong: At no point has TET made fun of people with disabilities. If someone has paranoia, it is not unreasonable to suggest that they are being paranoid. He can't do anything to stop someone from feeling paranoid, but he can assure them that it is not anywhere close to an actual death threat.
To clarify: gameon likely doesn't have paranoia. He once said in a post that he was paranoid the GOG staff had missed his message, which TET apparently decided to extrapolate on. And no, you're right, TET wasn't making fun of mental illness. He was, however, being extraordinarily patronizing, insulting and demeaning, which for me is inexcusable.
I don't know if Eidos/Square-Enix still owns this one, but you may want to add Fate of the Dragon to your list.

Edit: It's also possible Square-Enix owns Thexder, Thexder 2 and Zeliard. I can't really confirm those, but I do know SE published a sort of remake of Thexder called Thexder NEO for the PS3's Playstation Network.
Post edited February 08, 2013 by haydenaurion
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kalirion: Well, I'm not cancelling my account, but my respect for TET really did take a dive.
QFT
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Soyeong: At no point has TET made fun of people with disabilities. If someone has paranoia, it is not unreasonable to suggest that they are being paranoid. He can't do anything to stop someone from feeling paranoid, but he can assure them that it is not anywhere close to an actual death threat.
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PenutBrittle: To clarify: gameon likely doesn't have paranoia. He once said in a post that he was paranoid the GOG staff had missed his message, which TET apparently decided to extrapolate on. And no, you're right, TET wasn't making fun of mental illness. He was, however, being extraordinarily patronizing, insulting and demeaning, which for me is inexcusable.
The alternative would have been to take the licurg/gameon childish exchanges seriously, and moderate them like toddlers. I'm not sure it would have been less patronizing to, what, issue warning points and temp ban threats for not nice posts and impolite sentences ? TET basically asked them to behave like grown ups, and expected them to without having to play schoolmaster, issue punishments, and put people in the corner. I'd disagree with him for seeming to adress his post to Gameon more than to Licurg (for now I'm under the impression Gameon is the nicest one of both), but that's not immensely important. Not even sure (and caring to know) if it's the case here, but sometimes it's also a mark of respect, taking time to explain stuff to someone that you'd expect to be able to understand, given a little nudge towards a given perspective. And just briefly asking the other to tone it down.

But yeah. Whatever. I'm very disappointed, and I swear I'll never play a videogame ever again ever.
Post edited February 08, 2013 by Telika
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TheEnigmaticT: That wasn't a death threat. As someone who's actually received a few personalized ones, trust me on that.

By your own admission, you're apparently paranoid and you've mentioned in other threads that you suffer from a number of conditions that make you non-psychonormative. As such, it's entirely possible that you don't realize this.

To that end, let me be clear: this is, indeed, a forum where free and open discussion is encouraged and we're as inclusive as a grouping of several thousand virtual strangers can be. Part of what happens when you bump up against other cultures is that they view things differently and say things that might not feel friendly to you. That's part of how other people view the world and if you expect to be part of any community, you will need to understand that you are not going to be greeted with open arms from every single person you meet.

Licurg does not know where you live; he lives approximately 2,580 km away (that being the distance from Bucharest to London) and is no position to actually threaten you. He doesn't know your postal address, so he can't mail anything lethal to you. Finally, he doesn't even know your real name, so finding out who you are to *do* anything dangerous to you is problematic. Even under British harassment laws, you do not have a reasonable suspicion of actual threat, here, and there's no call for legal or police proceedings. If you feel this is a legitimate death threat, then I simply cannot help you because you don't operate on the same psychological plane that I do. If you, instead, are trying to censor someone else who you don't like by appealing to the moderators of the forums here and whining about it, you're not going to have much luck with that.

That said, Licurg, I suspect we'll all be happier if you simply ignore gameon in the future, instead of antagonizing him.
wow. what an unnecessarily verbose and unprofessional response. i can see why people are disappointed. attacking the victim or perceived victim rarely helps. here is an interesting (although unrelated) example from my country:

http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/national/abc-journalist-cops-racist-rant-on-sydney-bus/story-fndor8bb-1226573416717

a more appropriate response would have been to politely request licurg refrain from making such comments and ask gameon to do his best not to antagonise. i hope you learn from this mistake (and apologise to gameon for mishandling the issue).
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kalirion: Well, I'm not cancelling my account, but my respect for TET really did take a dive.
well said. i for one shall also never play another video game in silent protest.

*tabs to heroes of might and magic III*
Post edited February 08, 2013 by htown1980
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Well, OK.
Post edited February 08, 2013 by Ivory&Gold
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Soyeong: At no point has TET made fun of people with disabilities. If someone has paranoia, it is not unreasonable to suggest that they are being paranoid. He can't do anything to stop someone from feeling paranoid, but he can assure them that it is not anywhere close to an actual death threat.
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PenutBrittle: To clarify: gameon likely doesn't have paranoia. He once said in a post that he was paranoid the GOG staff had missed his message, which TET apparently decided to extrapolate on. And no, you're right, TET wasn't making fun of mental illness. He was, however, being extraordinarily patronizing, insulting and demeaning, which for me is inexcusable.
I wasn't trying for patronizing, actually. I read a lot more threads than I comment on, and I have seen gameon mention in more than a few places that he has mental and social issues. It is possible to me that if he legitimately means it when he has posted about these disabilities that he literally doesn't know that Licurg's threats are empty. As such, speaking in a clear and unambiguous tone is not patronizing, it is informative. It is possible I'm wrong in my approach here. I'm as human as anyone, and just as prone to error as the rest of us.

Should Licurg make empty threats? No. Have I told Licurg this? Yes. If gameon had conducted his, "I am disgusted with you and GOG" discussion via PM with me, I"d be happy to keep the conversation there, but it seemed that he wanted it public.

Harassment requires a pattern of repeated intimidating or unwanted behavior. Twice over three months is not a pattern, although Licurg telling people that he wants to kill them isn't funny and isn't appropriate. Being told so by a mod should, generally, settle the issue. If Licurg makes a habit of repeatedly being hostile to users and is reported frequently, then further action may, indeed, be appropriate.

I'm not dismissive of handicaps or of mental illness; as someone born with profound hearing loss, I understand that life is harder when you're disabled than when you're not. That said, I also believe that if you want to engage in the majority community, you pretty much have to play by the same rules the rest of us do because you don't get much of a life otherwise. I could stick to sign language as my main language, but then life's options would be pretty crappy for me, since the majority community doesn't speak that one. Likewise, realizing that someone's puerile and unfunny insult isn't an actual death threat is pretty important if someone is going to make his or her way through any large online community.

There are millions of people who use GOG each month; it is impossible to moderate for each of their wants or needs. I--as any moderator in a large community like this must--look for truly egregious examples of abuse, harassment, hate speech, or otherwise objectionable speech and swat at those; the remainder--the stupid, the tactless, the misinterpreted, and the borderline cases--are generally either ignored or set in a bin of "monitor but don't act yet." In this case, the appropriate action seemed to fall more in the latter than the former, and I took the action that seemed appropriate. Namely, I warned Licurg.

Hopefully, you guys understand my point of view, here. If not, well, sorry to have let you down, but I'm not sure what else I could have done here except ignore the issue entirely.
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PenutBrittle: To clarify: gameon likely doesn't have paranoia. He once said in a post that he was paranoid the GOG staff had missed his message, which TET apparently decided to extrapolate on. And no, you're right, TET wasn't making fun of mental illness. He was, however, being extraordinarily patronizing, insulting and demeaning, which for me is inexcusable.
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TheEnigmaticT: I wasn't trying for patronizing, actually. I read a lot more threads than I comment on, and I have seen gameon mention in more than a few places that he has mental and social issues. It is possible to me that if he legitimately means it when he has posted about these disabilities that he literally doesn't know that Licurg's threats are empty. As such, speaking in a clear and unambiguous tone is not patronizing, it is informative. It is possible I'm wrong in my approach here. I'm as human as anyone, and just as prone to error as the rest of us.

Should Licurg make empty threats? No. Have I told Licurg this? Yes. If gameon had conducted his, "I am disgusted with you and GOG" discussion via PM with me, I"d be happy to keep the conversation there, but it seemed that he wanted it public.

Harassment requires a pattern of repeated intimidating or unwanted behavior. Twice over three months is not a pattern, although Licurg telling people that he wants to kill them isn't funny and isn't appropriate. Being told so by a mod should, generally, settle the issue. If Licurg makes a habit of repeatedly being hostile to users and is reported frequently, then further action may, indeed, be appropriate.

I'm not dismissive of handicaps or of mental illness; as someone born with profound hearing loss, I understand that life is harder when you're disabled than when you're not. That said, I also believe that if you want to engage in the majority community, you pretty much have to play by the same rules the rest of us do because you don't get much of a life otherwise. I could stick to sign language as my main language, but then life's options would be pretty crappy for me, since the majority community doesn't speak that one. Likewise, realizing that someone's puerile and unfunny insult isn't an actual death threat is pretty important if someone is going to make his or her way through any large online community.

There are millions of people who use GOG each month; it is impossible to moderate for each of their wants or needs. I--as any moderator in a large community like this must--look for truly egregious examples of abuse, harassment, hate speech, or otherwise objectionable speech and swat at those; the remainder--the stupid, the tactless, the misinterpreted, and the borderline cases--are generally either ignored or set in a bin of "monitor but don't act yet." In this case, the appropriate action seemed to fall more in the latter than the former, and I took the action that seemed appropriate. Namely, I warned Licurg.

Hopefully, you guys understand my point of view, here. If not, well, sorry to have let you down, but I'm not sure what else I could have done here except ignore the issue entirely.
Like you were able to identify Licurg's "I wish you were dead" as not a real-life threat, you might have been able to identify Gameon's "He's threatening me" not as an indication of real-life fear, but rather as resorting to "legalese" under the assumption that only by escalating his terminology would his grievance be addressed. But you didn't and that's OK.

What you might want to consider is apologising to Gameon. There seem to be quite a few people on this thread who believe your replies to him could be construed as hurtful, so according to your rule of "if you want to engage in the majority community, you pretty much have to play by the same rules the rest of us do", you might want to apologise even if you don't understand what there's to apologise about. What have you got to lose? Surely not face.
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TheEnigmaticT: I wasn't trying for patronizing, actually. I read a lot more threads than I comment on, and I have seen gameon mention in more than a few places that he has mental and social issues. It is possible to me that if he legitimately means it when he has posted about these disabilities that he literally doesn't know that Licurg's threats are empty. As such, speaking in a clear and unambiguous tone is not patronizing, it is informative. It is possible I'm wrong in my approach here. I'm as human as anyone, and just as prone to error as the rest of us.

Should Licurg make empty threats? No. Have I told Licurg this? Yes. If gameon had conducted his, "I am disgusted with you and GOG" discussion via PM with me, I"d be happy to keep the conversation there, but it seemed that he wanted it public.

Harassment requires a pattern of repeated intimidating or unwanted behavior. Twice over three months is not a pattern, although Licurg telling people that he wants to kill them isn't funny and isn't appropriate. Being told so by a mod should, generally, settle the issue. If Licurg makes a habit of repeatedly being hostile to users and is reported frequently, then further action may, indeed, be appropriate.

I'm not dismissive of handicaps or of mental illness; as someone born with profound hearing loss, I understand that life is harder when you're disabled than when you're not. That said, I also believe that if you want to engage in the majority community, you pretty much have to play by the same rules the rest of us do because you don't get much of a life otherwise. I could stick to sign language as my main language, but then life's options would be pretty crappy for me, since the majority community doesn't speak that one. Likewise, realizing that someone's puerile and unfunny insult isn't an actual death threat is pretty important if someone is going to make his or her way through any large online community.

There are millions of people who use GOG each month; it is impossible to moderate for each of their wants or needs. I--as any moderator in a large community like this must--look for truly egregious examples of abuse, harassment, hate speech, or otherwise objectionable speech and swat at those; the remainder--the stupid, the tactless, the misinterpreted, and the borderline cases--are generally either ignored or set in a bin of "monitor but don't act yet." In this case, the appropriate action seemed to fall more in the latter than the former, and I took the action that seemed appropriate. Namely, I warned Licurg.

Hopefully, you guys understand my point of view, here. If not, well, sorry to have let you down, but I'm not sure what else I could have done here except ignore the issue entirely.
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mrkgnao: Like you were able to identify Licurg's "I wish you were dead" as not a real-life threat, you might have been able to identify Gameon's "He's threatening me" not as an indication of real-life fear, but rather as resorting to "legalese" under the assumption that only by escalating his terminology would his grievance be addressed. But you didn't and that's OK.

What you might want to consider is apologising to Gameon. There seem to be quite a few people on this thread who believe your replies to him could be construed as hurtful, so according to your rule of "if you want to engage in the majority community, you pretty much have to play by the same rules the rest of us do", you might want to apologise even if you don't understand what there's to apologise about. What have you got to lose? Surely not face.
Unfortunately the likelihood of this happening is slim thanks to Gameon burning bridges and trashing gog over several sites. However learning from this and moving on works as well in many ways.

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ANYWAY! Can we get back to the games available on the promo? (This is getting really out of hand and helpful to few. Making a new topic about this would be much better if it needs continuing as it wouldn't clog up the news page preview)

I know a friend of mine whos definetly is going to try and grab himself the Kain series. He used to own the entire series across and doesnt anymore (bar a Ps1 copy of Soul Reaver).

Ive never played Pandemonium. Anyone reccomend it?? I tend to enjoy most platformers but for some reason im feeling a bit wary on getting it XP Dunno why...

Would be nice too after this Promo, to see the various collections under the bundle banner.
aka:
- Dues Ex Pack
- Tomb Raider Classic Pack (Dunno if GOG will ever stock Legend/Anniversary/Underworld but dont see why not to make the Modern pack)
- Kain Pack (Even without the original)
- Hitman Pack
- Thief Pack
Post edited February 08, 2013 by jamesbuc
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TheEnigmaticT: Hopefully, you guys understand my point of view, here. If not, well, sorry to have let you down, but I'm not sure what else I could have done here except ignore the issue entirely.
Personally I thought you handled it fine and thought the whole thing was blown out of proportion.
Wow
alot of drama.

If it had been me i had placed both of them on water and bread for 2 days
and asked them to chill down.
Gameon for baiting
and licurg for a bit over the top response.


About the promo
Its nice, but there arent any games in it i want.
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mrkgnao: Like you were able to identify Licurg's "I wish you were dead" as not a real-life threat, you might have been able to identify Gameon's "He's threatening me" not as an indication of real-life fear, but rather as resorting to "legalese" under the assumption that only by escalating his terminology would his grievance be addressed. But you didn't and that's OK.
I'd say that I addressed both ends of that spectrum in the initial post; if he legitimately didn't know that it wasn't a threat, then I explained it was not. If it was an attempt to claim harassment and have Licurg moderated because of protected legal status, I explained it wasn't harassment by the definition that applied in his part of the world.


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mrkgnao: What you might want to consider is apologising to Gameon. There seem to be quite a few people on this thread who believe your replies to him could be construed as hurtful, so according to your rule of "if you want to engage in the majority community, you pretty much have to play by the same rules the rest of us do", you might want to apologise even if you don't understand what there's to apologise about. What have you got to lose? Surely not face.
But you raise a fair enough point; while I did explain--one way or another--that Licurg's behavior was bad but not an actual death threat, I did dumb things. First, of course, I should have kept this discussion over PM regardless of what was happening out here. I started on that road, though, and rather than seem to ignore all of you, I'm stuck having this conversation here. The second is that the line between "blunt" and "asshole" is very narrow, and while I aimed for the former, I clearly came off as the latter.

So, Gameon, on the off chance you swing by the forums again: I'm sorry that I addressed your problem like an asshole. While the resolution of it would not change, I could have done a better job in several respects of informing you what was happening and why.

With that said, it's 2:30 in the morning here, and I've derailed this thread more than enough for one weekend. See you all on Monday.
Ten pages of comments? This promo must be pretty popu...

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*slowly backs out of thread*
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mrkgnao: Like you were able to identify Licurg's "I wish you were dead" as not a real-life threat, you might have been able to identify Gameon's "He's threatening me" not as an indication of real-life fear, but rather as resorting to "legalese" under the assumption that only by escalating his terminology would his grievance be addressed. But you didn't and that's OK.
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TheEnigmaticT: I'd say that I addressed both ends of that spectrum in the initial post; if he legitimately didn't know that it wasn't a threat, then I explained it was not. If it was an attempt to claim harassment and have Licurg moderated because of protected legal status, I explained it wasn't harassment by the definition that applied in his part of the world.

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mrkgnao: What you might want to consider is apologising to Gameon. There seem to be quite a few people on this thread who believe your replies to him could be construed as hurtful, so according to your rule of "if you want to engage in the majority community, you pretty much have to play by the same rules the rest of us do", you might want to apologise even if you don't understand what there's to apologise about. What have you got to lose? Surely not face.
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TheEnigmaticT: But you raise a fair enough point; while I did explain--one way or another--that Licurg's behavior was bad but not an actual death threat, I did dumb things. First, of course, I should have kept this discussion over PM regardless of what was happening out here. I started on that road, though, and rather than seem to ignore all of you, I'm stuck having this conversation here. The second is that the line between "blunt" and "asshole" is very narrow, and while I aimed for the former, I clearly came off as the latter.

So, Gameon, on the off chance you swing by the forums again: I'm sorry that I addressed your problem like an asshole. While the resolution of it would not change, I could have done a better job in several respects of informing you what was happening and why.

With that said, it's 2:30 in the morning here, and I've derailed this thread more than enough for one weekend. See you all on Monday.
Have a good night's sleep!
And PenutBrittle, you might want to return. We miss you.
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BadDecissions: Ten pages of comments? This promo must be pretty popu...

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*slowly backs out of thread*
Ten pages? Someone needs to change his Posts per topic page setting!

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mrkgnao: And PenutBrittle, you might want to return. We miss you.
Yeah, when guys like him go and Licurg stays, where does that leave us?
Post edited February 08, 2013 by Ivory&Gold