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Posted March 31, 2012
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stonebro: Bringing experienced people from Obsidian on for design and writing purposes is probably a good move.

Before you criticize, do you know how many employees inXile has? They'll have to hire external contractors to do some of the legwork anyway. Why not hire they guys who have made some of the best RPG storylines in recent years?

They're absolutely right to do this, and I'll consider raising my pledge from 150 to 300 if it looks like it's going to hit $2.1M.
Thats the interesting part of the update Brian put up. OE people would be in for the design (and i assume writing), not for the programming (which is obviously where the bugs might crop up...cue whatever QA/Beta testers they use) ;).

** forgets about playing FO3 and goes direct to FNV ** ;)
Post edited March 31, 2012 by nijuu
Posted March 31, 2012
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Gersen: Concerning Obsidian, I am always surprised that so many peoples nowadays consider them as the second coming; I remember not so long ago when they were considered as being the poor man's Bioware, the "Bioware-lite" that worked on games/sequel that the real Bioware didn't care about.
Look at Bioware's track record lately. They're being their own "poor man's Bioware" as far as I am concerned. There is your answer.
Post edited March 31, 2012 by Nergal01
Posted March 31, 2012
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Gersen: Concerning Obsidian, I am always surprised that so many peoples nowadays consider them as the second coming; I remember not so long ago when they were considered as being the poor man's Bioware, the "Bioware-lite" that worked on games/sequel that the real Bioware didn't care about.
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Nergal01: Look at Bioware's track record lately. They're being their own "poor man's Bioware" as far as I am concerned. There is your answer.
Please, Bioware as "poor man's Bioware" a decade ago with the NWN original single player campaign. Even Dragon Age 2 and maybe even Mass Effect 3 (only played the demo which turned me off a bit) was awesome compared NWN's oriiginal single player capmaign And even though I love Jade Empire is probably the most dumbed down and streamlined of all their action RPGs.

I also, liked Obsidian from the very start with KOTOR II, found it to be much more fun than KOTOR I.
Post edited March 31, 2012 by marcusmaximus
Posted March 31, 2012
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marcusmaximus: Please, Bioware as "poor man's Bioware" a decade ago with the NWN original single player campaign. Even Dragon Age 2 and maybe even Mass Effect 3 (only played the demo which turned me off a bit) was awesome compared NWN's oriiginal single player capmaign And even though I love Jade Empire is probably the most dumbed down and streamlined of all their action RPGs.

I also, liked Obsidian from the very start with KOTOR II, found it to be much more fun than KOTOR I.
Agreed, NWN's OC wasn't good, especially in comparison with BG 2. Still, I'd rather replay that than going through DA 2 again, personally.
Posted March 31, 2012
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jepsen1977: I simply take objection to how we debate in the gaming community and why it always need to be this polarizing thing as in black & white rather than shades of Grey.
Frankly put, if the thread starts with such a polarized title as this one did, with no explanation given about why he thinks so and not one argument to back it up in his first posting - he's not looking for a civilized debate. He's trying to add fuel to the fire to see how big it gets.

Also, you may have missed it since it was down rated, but check back with his third posting in this thread - especially his answer to Coelocanth.....
Post edited March 31, 2012 by Siannah
Posted March 31, 2012
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jepsen1977: I'm just curious to what it was in Obsidian games you enjoyed so much: Was it the terrible camera and bugs in Nwn2? The unfinished nature of KOTOR2? The unbalanced gunplay, broken stealth and borderline retarded AI in Alpha Protocol? Bugs, glitches and broken gameplay elements in New Vegas? The abhorrent co-op and muddy graphics of DS3? I would love to know.
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Fred_DM: i had absolutely no problems with NWN2 when i played it right when it came out. loved it since it was much closer to Baldur's Gate than Neverwinter Nights 1 was.

why don't you get off your high horse for 2.5 seconds? so their games tend to be faulty in some regards. big deal. does that make them entirely unenjoyable? are you seriously going to tell me that F: NV cannot be enjoyed? then why do most of their games have a sizable cult following, including what's generally considered their worst game, Alpha Protocol?

lighten up, Francis.

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Luisfius: Aaaand you are completely wrong. As in completely wrong about everything except reusing their engine.

Edit: Was I trolled and reacted to bait? Dunno.
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Fred_DM: don't worry about it. you've just made the best post this thread is likely going to see.
See the post I wrote 2 up from your own and see that I like many things about Obs. games but Nwn2 was panned by many critics for being buggy and having a bad camera (see Gamespots review). Great that you loved it and had no issues but that doesn't mean that the rest of us were that lucky. As for NV I'm 85 hours into the Complete Edition right now so that answers that but again my enjoyment is despite the bugs, crashes and horrible balance of that game. It's not for nothing that Obs. have a reputation for releasing buggy games you know.
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jepsen1977: I simply take objection to how we debate in the gaming community and why it always need to be this polarizing thing as in black & white rather than shades of Grey.
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Siannah: Frankly put, if the thread starts with such a polarized title as this one did, with no explanation given about why he thinks so and not one argument to back it up in his first posting - he's not looking for a civilized debate. He's trying to add fuel to the fire to see how big it gets.

Also, you may have missed it since it was down rated, but check back with his third posting in this thread - especially his answer to Coelocanth.....
Yes, it can be hard to know when someone is just being snarky and when they are trolling - i like to give people the benefit of the doubt and believe they have the best of intentions. But who knows with the OP?
Post edited March 31, 2012 by jepsen1977
Posted March 31, 2012
inXile made Bard's Tale for PS2 and Xbox, and Hunted: the Demon's Forge. They have far more credibility than Obsidian when it comes to RPGs. Obsidian will ruin Wastleand 2!!!11
Posted March 31, 2012
Ok, i have a request.

Is there ANY chance you guys at GOG can get an agreement with the developers of Wasteland 2, so that everyone of us that funded the game , will get a free code to have it on GOG when it's released?

Please??? :D
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