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Why would I vote out the Rep System? It would take away my whole reason for being in this forum. Shit, I'd have to start posting about games or something.

Vestin is on to something and all this talk me be working. In the past three days the only person I've been derepped by was a neo-Nazi and well, I'm sort of fine with that; in fact I consider being despised by someone like that a badge of honor.

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tinyE post count = ∞

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Post edited July 29, 2013 by tinyE
I don't mind the rep system going away, but I don't see any point in displaying the post count.
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I would love to have more forum functionality, including ignore user. On the other hand, I would have ignored a lot of people who then went on to make many unobjectionable posts. So we definitely need to keep the hide post functionality.

About the rep system... I'm sorry, but people need to learn to not worry about a tiny, meaningless number in a small internet forum. I know it's hard, and we all want validation, but the sooner someone stops looking for validation in forum rep / karma / brownie points from strangers on the internet, the happier they will be. IDk, every time someone worries about rep put another dollar in a jar for a local homeless shelter, or donate to starving children or an animal shelter or what-have-you, and have the glowy I'm-a-contributor! feeling from knowing you've done actual good.

In some ways I like the rep system - it's a lot more useable and clear than many other forum rep systems. And we do need some way to have social feedback since we're not able to see or hear each other.

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tinyE: Why would I vote out the Rep System? It would take away my whole reason for being in this forum. Shit, I'd have to start posting about games or something.

Vestin is on to something and all this talk me be working. In the past three days the only person I've been derepped by was a neo-Nazi and well, I'm sort of fine with that; in fact I consider being despised by someone like that a badge of honor.
LOL. I'd be perfectly happy if a neo-Nazi downrepped me too.
Post edited July 29, 2013 by HGiles
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ET3D: Even if I cared about this I'd say that there are more pressing issues with this forum, and I'd rather that GOG attends to them first.
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dirtyharry50: In response the continued angst and arguing I see created by the use, misuse and abuse of the current system, what happens when people ask or complain about it and what happens when people try to study it, etc. I decided to propose this simple solution that works well on many other forums:

Let's just have post counts and dispense with the rep system.

I think many would agree the rep system does not really provide enough benefit to offset the issues it creates at this point without picking apart who is right, wrong or whatever. It is what it is. It keeps coming up over and over and over. It is a source of negativity and arguing on these forums. That alone is enough reason in my mind for it to be removed and replaced with a benign post count nobody can get upset about or cause anyone else any pain with.

So, if you've had enough of hearing about this stuff too or have been affected by it or for whatever reasons of your own support the idea of making this a little more positive place in this way, please make your voice heard with a vote here:

http://www.gog.com/wishlist/site/replace_rep_system_with_simple_postcount
I support this idea.
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tinyE: Why would I vote out the Rep System? It would take away my whole reason for being in this forum. Shit, I'd have to start posting about games or something.

Vestin is on to something and all this talk me be working. In the past three days the only person I've been derepped by was a neo-Nazi and well, I'm sort of fine with that; in fact I consider being despised by someone like that a badge of honor.

Side note:
tinyE post count = ∞
How did you know the person who downreped you is a neo nazi? There is no way to know who downreps you.
Post edited July 29, 2013 by langurmonkey
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langurmonkey: I support this idea.
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tinyE: Why would I vote out the Rep System? It would take away my whole reason for being in this forum. Shit, I'd have to start posting about games or something.

Vestin is on to something and all this talk me be working. In the past three days the only person I've been derepped by was a neo-Nazi and well, I'm sort of fine with that; in fact I consider being despised by someone like that a badge of honor.

Side note:
tinyE post count = ∞
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langurmonkey: How did you know the person who downreped you is a neo nazi? There is no way to know who downreps you.
He was the only one in the entire forum I was posting with and I can't imagine the lot of you were downrepping my claims that the holocaust actually happened.
Post edited July 29, 2013 by tinyE
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bansama: An even better idea, ignore user function. Seriously, if people have an issue with someone they should just be given the ability to hide all their posts. That'll remove any temptation to down vote continuously - this too is something that works perfectly well on other forums.

Of course the best and easiest option would be to allow people to hide rep scores. .
Maybe it would be best to go with dirtyharry's idea, at least all the arguing will stop:)

Poor GOG, they put the forum up for game related stuff and we are all wasting it:)
Post edited July 29, 2013 by Moonbeam
Why would I want to see how many posts have I wasted OR Rep.

It doesn't have to be one or the other. Though seeing how fucked the technical side of this forum is, it maybe has to.
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Vestin: Leave the system, fix the people.
But why assume that the system isn't flawed? The point of this discussion is to question whether changes to the current system or an alternative system might better accommodate people as they actually are.

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@some others:

Arguing that the rep system is meaningless and that people shouldn't care about it but also maintaining that the rep system should remain doesn't seem to make much sense to me...
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Moonbeam: Maybe it would be best to go with dirtyharry's idea, at least all the arguing will stop:)
If you've been on any other large forum that displays post counts, you'd know that's not a great idea. It just replace one issue with an entirely new one where people will be treated differently purely due to the number of posts they have.
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SeduceMePlz: The point of this discussion is to question whether changes to the current system or an alternative system might better accommodate people as they actually are.
I don't want people "as they actually are" (at the very least not all of them). I want them the best they can be.
I don't like the "let's close our eyes and pretend everything and everyone is great" mentality. It will either result in unexpressed, internalized spite (not exactly healthy) or an increase in downvote substitute posts, ranging from "That doesn't make any sense." to "Go die in a fire.". Even if I'm wrong on that account, I know it will remove one thing: expressions of public disagreement.

The system is primitive, yet it is utilized nearly perfectly. People who object to it are usually the ones who are rightfully affected by it. There are, of course, some who are dissatisfied with the ruckus made by the downrepped... Guess what - there wouldn't be any such nonsense if it wasn't precisely for the downrepped people and their disruptive actions.
I recall reading years ago that a simple downvote button reduces forum complaints. Essentially, when a user disapproves of a post (spam, insults, whatever), they can grow frustrated at the lack of official censure and their own inability to condemn a post. This leads to annoyance and possibly an email to forum host. The study (was it a study?) found that something as simple as a dislike button relieved this impotent frustration, making the userbase much more tolerant to various forum annoyances. This also resulted in less user complaints to the host.

(Note that condemning a post isn't always as simple as responding critically. This feels like an ineffective answer to spam and trolls, for example.)

I'm not arguing either side here. Just offering something to consider.
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Roman5: Just remove the option to downvote and leave options of "Hide this post" and "Report spam"

There, all problems with the rep system resolved
One more vote for this solution.
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Moonbeam: Maybe it would be best to go with dirtyharry's idea, at least all the arguing will stop:)
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bansama: If you've been on any other large forum that displays post counts, you'd know that's not a great idea. It just replace one issue with an entirely new one where people will be treated differently purely due to the number of posts they have.
I don't actually care about post counts either really but included it just because I know some people like that display of how active they have been over time on a forum. It really is not indicative of anything though beyond how many times someone has made posts over a particular time frame if their join date is also displayed. I don't really see the harm in that. I don't see how someone who has made more posts than someone else is somehow more important.

In any case, I would actually be just fine with no rep system and no post counts. Knowing where someone is from and how long ago they registered is interesting and enough info for me anyway.

In a perfect world people would play nice in an anonymous place but the reality is that a good number of people do not play nice, particularly when shielded by anonymity. In light of this reality and its implications on a forum such as this, it seems better to me for the forum software to take reality into account and limit opportunities for people to do things that are not nice to others. It just heads trouble off at the pass.

Do any of us really need rep numbers to affirm our position and our place in this little world, etc.? I hope not.
Am I the only one who thought that read "postcards"?