How about completely different legal system ? Or a completely different track record of decisions? This isn't even an international ruling...

You did not understand what i meant. If this can happen in one country, obviously the gaming industry in other countries can take note and lobby for similar laws? Or did that never happen before?

Have you read the articles? It's about used textbooks, not gaming. This is no move by the big bad gaming lobby.

You can already, very easily and legally, kill used games by using DRMs like Steam (mandatory accounts for each game). Next gen of consoles will have that. The rest is scaremongering.

Well, you're the legal expert, so i'll take your word for it.

Which is why he said 'only when it suits the highest bidder'. ;)

The actual case is only concerned with imports. One guy thought to make money by buying cheaper books abroad, then reselling them domestically where they were more expensive. And the court is sticking to the question of whether first-sale applies to items of foreign manufacture.

In that case they might go with a ruling along the line of "first sale doctrine only for consumers". That means selling your game of ebay if good, but a business operating out of second hand CR material is bad.

Which would also kill antiquarians, now that I think of it ...

Doesn't bother me anymore since my new PC parts came in.

As long as you don't try to sell your old parts.

I see both sides. First, its not really alarmist to be concerned about these types of things... was SOPA really that long ago? Just because its stupid doesn't mean someone won't legitimately attempt to pass it.

The other side says there are things in place to protect most people, like fair use.

so, lets say they pass something like this for games. To be honest, it doesn't affect me. I don't borrow games, nor do I loan them. I like to buy new games just for myself. Even if it did bother me, there are likely fair ways to circumvent the restrictions. Its technically illegal to circumvent copy protection in the U.S. That doesn't bother most people because they do so under fair use. I think the laws are in place to be able to nail the pirates. Ideally, it should never effect someone bypassing for their own use (if they were kosher on obtaining it to begin with).

Still, I'd rather not have wording in place that would allow someone to "legally" abuse the system.

Bwahahahaha what old parts? :D

I don't think media items qualify as products and thus fall under first-sale rules unless they are sold as products, which they are (for consoles anyway) right now, but might not be for much longer.

In any case as much as I hate DRM I am surprisingly ambivalent about killing used game sales. I think if someone plays a game the developer should get something for it.

GOG is pretty much the perfect setup for me.

Facepalm.

This has been taken way out of context, but meh, gamers will always be gamers (if you can read between the lines).

EDIT: There's a reason why software is switching from product to service.

and that is?

It is incredibly alarming how many people champion the ceasing of the right of a buyerto acomplete product, to do with as they see fit. It's like everyone buying a game is a stockholder.