Gilozard: This EO is very different from Obama's. Obama's got vetted before being put into place, there was a grace period, it wasn't so badly written it swept up green card holders or permanent residents, etc.
The President is head of the
executive branch. Executing laws correctly is his
whole job. A failure as bad as this one is blatant evidence of incompetence and letting personal fears put Americans and the American economy at risk.
BKGaming: As I already said I agree to an extent that it could have been handled better. However, in the grand scheme of things it went rather smoothly and these issues were quickly solved/improved. The amount of people impacted were pretty tiny in comparison. These type of major policy changes hardly ever go off without some issues.
I think your real issue here is your don't agree with the order, which is fine, but polls as of less than two years ago showed a majority of Americans support orders blocking refugees...
http://www.gallup.com/poll/186866/americans-again-opposed-taking-refugees.aspx The president's job first and for most is to protect American citizen's and do what he (or she) feels is the best interest of the USA. Even the liberal left with the likes of Chuck Schumer was calling for the same type of things that Trump wants to do, and intends to do giving the 90 days to do so. I'm pretty sure he even called for a pause on the refugee program at one point.
https://twitter.com/senschumer/status/667408740858134528 Those "tears" yesterday were nothing more the politics as usual in Washington... now will this order hold up in court? Who knows, but from what I have read, it appears the President is well within his power.
Gilozard: Green cards grant their holders the right to go to and from the US without being stopped like this. Trump is thwarting the whole point of our current visa system, and endangering us by making illegal immigration look more attractive. If going through the extensive review to get a green card doesn't protect you from being stopped and detained, why bother with it?
BKGaming: I think using the term "right" here is wrong, privilege yes... the ability to enter any country when not an actual citizen is a privilege, not a right. This is something people seem to fail to understand. It's also well within the government's rights to vet people again or ask more question for anyone entering the country, even if you don't agree with it.
Do I think it's needed? Maybe... maybe not, I don't think it really harms anything either, it's a just a minor inconvenience. Also they said only people regularly traveling back and forth within the banned countries will need to go through the process over and over.
It's a legally granted right specifically given to green card holders and one of the major selling points of getting a green card. 'Right' is precisely the right word to use. This is the government going back on its word in many fundamental ways (violating immigration act, potentially unconstitutional, ignoring what green cards do, etc).
Also no, this was not smooth at all. There is a proper process for these things! Trump issued an order late on Friday and caused massive harm and disruption, both for the people caught in it right now and with the longer term effects on tourism (America gets lots of foreign tourism and some areas depend on it), businesses being competitive (people need translators, local representatives, etc), our allies being able to reach us (this ban prevents UK MPs from coming to America!).
There are reports that government agents are ignoring court orders, that permanent residents have been bullied into giving up their green cards in order to get out of jail, that due process is not being followed, and that police are deliberately interfering with citizens using their right of free speech and assembly. This is the opposite of orderly.
As for holding up in court, 4 courts have already issued orders stopping it pending court cases! The President is
not clearly within his rights. Where are you getting your news?
This is a tremendous mistake by the administration. I would be just as upset if it banned everyone with blue hair, or any other reason - the way it was done shows complete contempt for regular Americans and our laws.