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iainmet: There was loads of issues when it was being filmed with constant script changes and certain bits of the films script had to be wrote around sets they had already built. It was a garbled mess at the time.

With the Blu Ray version of the workprint / directors cut or as it is officially known The Assembly Cut everything that hit the cutting room floor is restored and the high def tidy up you can't even tell it is from workprint footage.

To this day the Alien 3 director literally wants nothing to do with the film given that he was messed around by studio execs and script at the time, can't blame him really.
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Lone3wolf: I actually prefer A3 - it works as a fairly decent end to the trilogy.
Now, you wanna talk A4:Resurrection? Now THAT was a horrible mess! :P
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langurmonkey: 90% of Uwe Boll movies.


Just Kidding. :)
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Lone3wolf: You meant 99.999999999999999999999999995%, right? O_o!
Yeah, Resurrection was pretty naff, I liked the concept with the mercs (Michael Wincott is an awesome actor) but that whole hybrid thing towards the end just killing anything was utter tripe! I think Sigourney Weaver over acted Ripley in this one also, going from likeable survivor of the previous movies to out and out psycho just didn't fit right with Ripleys background.

It could have worked so well with the way the movie started, it was dark & gritty but literally just declined the further it got into the film.
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langurmonkey: 90% of Uwe Boll movies.
And yet, as a pure gross-out comedy, Postal worked surprisingly well. And some of his non-game-based stuff hasn't been bad at all (Tunnel Rats).

But of course, all of Uwe Boll's stuff is unjustly written off as being shit in an act of vengeance for the sacrilege he has committed in the eyes of the nerd ragers.
Post edited November 19, 2012 by jamyskis
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jamyskis: Anything else that comes to mind?
The Star Wars prequels. Heck, even Episode III (which was well received by critics back then) is into the hate bandwagon.
Showgirls.
Super Mario Bros. - still don't see what's wrong about this one.

Judge Dredd (the first) - ah so it's an unfaithful adaptation. Big deal. I still like it more than Equilibrium, Serenity, either Total Recall, and practically every other movie with that shiny hexagonal future aesthetic.

Waterworld - that was a turd all right, but there's one getting a worldwide release every month. Why is that one singled out?
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ZYZKryten: Showgirls.
I agree, with the exception of that remarkably stoopid swimming pool scene.
Dunno, I've never been an avid reader of superhero comics and certainly not a fanboy, and I still found X-Men 3 cheesy and Hulk rather boring. I think I even liked the Wolverine movie better than X3. But maybe the problem of the third part is also that the first two movies set such a high standard in story-telling and character-painting that the director of the third couldn't keep up with it and made the third part an average action movie instead. So you might be right that it's not a bad movie per se, maybe better than some of the other superhero flicks, but it's definitely a disappointment if you judge it as third part of a trilogy.

Anyway, to make my opinion and taste vulnerable too, I admit to being entertained by the Tomb Raider movies. :)
Post edited November 19, 2012 by Leroux
Hm, the Silent Hill movie comes to mind. It's not exactly good, but it's still among the better game movies out there. Sure, that's not saying much, but you can at least tell where it's coming from.

Same for the first (!) Mortal Kombat movie. It's supremely dumb, yes, and it was severely neutered for a PG-13 release, but it's campy fun all around and, unlike Annihilation, people seemed to have given a crap about the whole thing.
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Leroux: Dunno, I've never been an avid reader of superhero comics and certainly not a fanboy, and I still found X-Men 3 cheesy and Hulk rather boring. I think I even liked the Wolverine movie better than X3. But maybe the problem of the third part is also that the first two movies set such a high standard in story-telling and character-painting that the director of the third couldn't keep up with it and made the third part an average action movie instead. (So you might be right that it's not a bad movie per se, maybe better than some of the other superhero flicks, but it's definitely a disappointment if you judge it as third part of a trilogy.)
Exactly. X3 fundamentally failed to get me invested in what was supposed to be this epic final battle. Too many pointless mutant cameos, too many subplots that don't really go anywhere, too many deaths that were simply there for pure shock value. X-Men and X2 have problems of their own, but they were more focused movies that seemed to be actually interested in the characters they were setting up.
Post edited November 19, 2012 by Nergal01
I have to agree with Rocky V. When I saw it for the first time, I thought it was a pretty decent cap (at the time) for the series. And also the first 'Mortal Kombat' film. Best non-anime game film ever, I think.

In addition, I have to say that a lot of the criticism 'Battleship' and 'Battle: LA' got puzzled me. Oh, I can certainly see the flaws. In 'Battleship' the biggest was the inconsistent tone, and only a doofus could miss the hoo-ah USMC ALL THE WAY of 'Battle: LA', but... 'Battleship' entertained me far more than 'Avengers Assemble', and 'Battle: LA' had the sort of man vs alien sci-fi war I have been waiting my entire freaking life to see.

They were not, by any stretch of the imagination, bad films.

But that's just me, and I admit I have notoriously low standards when it comes to films (give me giant transforming robots, and I'll be a happy bunny for a bout two and a half hours :-) )
Post edited November 19, 2012 by granny
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Starmaker: Super Mario Bros. - still don't see what's wrong about this one.
I found it hilarious and a fun watch as well -- people just like to hate things like that. It is also one of the definingly nineties' movies I've watched. I heard Bob Hoskins got frequently drunk during the filming, because it was that horrible (the filming), but no pain, no gain I quess. He also pulled the role off rather well. Also, walk-the-goddamn-dinosaur. : D

Another one fron Kevin Costner besides Waterworld (which I managed to find some enjoyment in as well) is the Postman. I can totally understand why it flopped in the box office (I think it is still one of the worst bombs there have been, but I'm not sure), and somehow that means most people automatically hate it. Probably because it frequently stars in "worst" movies in history lists, and often those lists are based solely on box office revenue, which really doesn't tell about the quality. There is correlation, but correlation doesn't make a connection.
Post edited November 19, 2012 by Crowned
Observe and Report - One of the greatest movies ever, I watched it about 100 times or so. I read what some fancy critics wrote about it... Shitheads !
Rocky IV was just as shitty as the V.

http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/nostalgia-critic/27664-ndrockyiv

That video pretty much covers it.

By the way, the new SW trilogy. I really liked it. Even the first one.
Post edited November 19, 2012 by keeveek
Also, Gentlemen Broncos - It's brilliant...
Citizen Kane. I'm serious. You use it as an example of a great film, or the best film, and it's instantly shot down and mocked as if you'd just suggested Pearl Harbor. It's kind of like saying Final Fantasy VII is one of the best games; probably more of a reaction to the frequency and predictability with which people cite it as a benchmark, but it's still annoying.
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Export: Citizen Kane. I'm serious. You use it as an example of a great film, or the best film, and it's instantly shot down and mocked as if you'd just suggested Pearl Harbor. It's kind of like saying Final Fantasy VII is one of the best games; probably more of a reaction to the frequency and predictability with which people cite it as a benchmark, but it's still annoying.
Well, do you think it's the best film? Certainly nobody would deny that the cinematography was amazing and groundbreaking.