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anjohl: But.....WH is turn based....I would be more excited for a digital, rules-accurate WH title, but like WOTC, GW isn't going to offer plastic.crack rehab.
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wodmarach: I still have a copy of the microprose MtG game... still the best digital version of it there is...
I never had that one (for PC), but I do remember enjoying MtG: Battlemage on the PS1 (IIRC). Were they similiar at all? I thought they did a decent job translating the deck game to screen. Biggest limitation with Battlemage was, no way to add new cards once you went threw all the ones available in the game. The campaign they had was "Okay", and added a little extra to the game play.
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TurnipSlayerr: Zoltan- I've actually got a copy of Mark of Chaos back at my house in NZ but never got round to playing it. My brother was really hyped for it but ended up being very disappointed so I never bothered to try it.
Really? I thought it was very identical gameplay, and just as enjoyable. I know some people didn't care for the over all storyline(s) for the 3 different races you can play, but that really didn't matter as much to me, as the strategy/tactical aspects of the battles, which always took the front seat in these earlier WH games. Have him ship it to you...I think you'll enjoy it ;-)
Post edited December 07, 2012 by Zoltan999
YES.

FUCK YES.

HELL FUCKING YES.

(I've never played a Total War game for more than an hour - can I claim I've been saving myself?)
Post edited December 07, 2012 by Whitecroc
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mystral: I don't know.
I remember getting Shadow of the Horned Rat for free with a gaming magazine, and being unable to get into it because there was no manual, I didn't know anything about Warhammer at the time, and the game was pretty hard.

That was a long time ago, but I don't remember that game being all that similar to Rome: TW, which is the only Total War game I've played a lot.
And Dark Omen is described as a RPG, so I'm not sure how similar that one is either.

Anyway, I like fantasy strategy games, and Total War games, so I'm interested in this. I'm not sure how well they'll be able to reproduce the rules, though, since I don't think Warhammer Fantasy would work all that well with real-time battles.
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TurnipSlayerr: I never played SOTHR but from what I understand Dark Omen, which I have played, is very similar to it.

There are some similarities with the Total War series in terms of the battles but outside of that they're completely different. There is just a set linear sequence of battles and you unlock new units as you progress, there's none of the grand strategy present in the Total war games, no building/training units, no managing your economy or diplomacy.

Battles are on a much smaller scale as well so overall they're very different games with very different focuses.
SOTHR is one of the hardest pc games ive ever played and yet its awesome, please release it on GOG GW
Post edited December 07, 2012 by ShogunDarius
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ShogunDarius: SOTHR is one of the hardest pc games ive ever played and yet its awesome, please release it on GOG GW
I never managed to finish it. Yet I loved that game.
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ShogunDarius: SOTHR is one of the hardest pc games ive ever played and yet its awesome, please release it on GOG GW
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SimonG: I never managed to finish it. Yet I loved that game.
I've got Dark Omen on my desk. One of these days I'm gonna try to finish it.
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ShogunDarius: SOTHR is one of the hardest pc games ive ever played and yet its awesome, please release it on GOG GW
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SimonG: I never managed to finish it. Yet I loved that game.
I'm in this group. I owned both, could never finish either, but I loved them despite their faults and mine, all the same.
Too bad that GWS are terrified of any video game that faithfully adapts the ruleset of their tabletop games to a computer format, because they fear people would stop buying the models. I mean if that were the case Wizards of the Coast would have gone bust because of all the D&D computer games they licensed. But it had the opposite effect, it made the tabletop game more popular. Shame GWS don't seem to realize this.
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tsgnurk: Also a big difference between Shogun and MTW is that units in shogun function more as a charging flow of units, they don't really fight in formations the way they do in medieval.

Don't get me wrong the spectacle of shogun battles is great, but once the armies clash moving units around and reforming your army is virtualyl impossible, cause the units are just so...spread out, in MTW units also clash the same way, but you can much easier back them away then charge in again (ofcourse the cost of small retreats are often high, but its still MUCH more possible)
Good point - I found myself using auto resolve much more in big numbers battles due to this kind of thing

I did enjoy the diplomacy system though and the use of monks to incite rebellion, so I hope there are some similarities to be seen there
Post edited December 07, 2012 by Sachys
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tsgnurk: Also a big difference between Shogun and MTW is that units in shogun function more as a charging flow of units, they don't really fight in formations the way they do in medieval.

Don't get me wrong the spectacle of shogun battles is great, but once the armies clash moving units around and reforming your army is virtualyl impossible, cause the units are just so...spread out, in MTW units also clash the same way, but you can much easier back them away then charge in again (ofcourse the cost of small retreats are often high, but its still MUCH more possible)
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Sachys: Good point - I found myself using auto resolve much more in big numbers battles due to this kind of thing

I did enjoy the diplomacy system though and the use of monks to incite rebellion, so I hope there are some similarities to be seen there
I 100% agree with this, the play of the campaign is much better in shogun, but i must admit due to battles being so boring i never even finnished the game.

Truth be told the Total war series have never truely excelled at the campaign overview, they have allways been about those AMAZING battles.

If i want to play a game for diplomacy and campaign overview I think i prefere my Europa universalis.
After getting all those Total War games, old or new, I'm still playing Rome and Medieval 2.........
Rites of War, Final Liberation and Chaos Gate remain the only turn-based WH*anything* games.