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JudasIscariot: I tried the Thief pack for Oblivion. It added *some* game play mechanics from Thief into the game. Some worked out alright...some ...were.........interesting. The engine itself doesn't have a flag or variable for unconsciousness so even if you did sap a guard he would still catch you and all that. It was really weird getting accosted by a sleeping body yelling "Stop! You're violating the law!"
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Andy_Panthro: Theres only so much you can do with Oblivion I guess.
Mind you, it surely had to be better than the Thieves Guild quests in vanilla? I was seriously disappointed after the quite good assassins quests.

Not really. They had the Boxman character from the Thief series in a sewer in the capital city and he would give you these random quests to plunder Object X from Location Y without killing anyone or something. Nothing more than randomly generated quests really.
off-topic but, HOLY SH1T youre back judas! :D
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DarrkPhoenix: Interesting screenshots Almak, particularly the one looking all the way from Vivec to Red Mountain. I've used the Morrowind Graphics Extender quite a bit, but even with that the game will normally only load up one or two cells beyond the one the PC is in (so even with view distance set to max you'll just see the world suddenly come to an abrupt end. I wonder if one of the mods drastically increased the number of cells loaded up (in which case I'd be curious as to what the performance is like with that), or if some kind of distant LOD was implemented similar to what was in Oblivion (which would be a pretty damn cool mod I'd need to track down).

As I recall the MGE does allow distant land. And it seems I'm right: http://timeslip.chorrol.com/mge.html
Though personally I preferred the morrowind fps optimizer.
I liked Morrowind better than Oblivion. And I'm not even sure if I like Morrowind. I just keep coming back to it, create and build an uber character who is totally on drugs and the boss of everything on the entire island, only then remember that weird half naked old man in a certain backwater town, try to do what he tells me to do, and quickly lose itnerest in the game.
But Oblivion just feels.. clunky. Even more than Morrowind. And I actually think Oblivion is less pretty than Morrowind+mods. But that might also be because my laptop sucks at Oblivion.
Post edited June 25, 2009 by LordCinnamon
I think I have played all The Elder Scrolls games except Redguard. Arena was a lot of fun. Daggerfall was bug ridden. One you installed all the patches it was a lot of fun. Still had some annoying bugs, but it was playable and enjoyable. Battlespire I only got to run once or twice. It seemed to me to be the most bug filled of the Elder Scroll series. Morrowind I spent many ours playing. The one thing I hated most about Morrowind? Cliff Racers....Boy, I hated them. Oblivion is great. The graphics on it are outstanding. Add in some of the best mods and it becomes an experience.
What I hated about Oblivion is once Ieveled my Sneak skill to 100 ,either by practice or by using vampiric powers, the flaws in the game's AI became very, very apparent to the point where the game felt as if I used the Oblivion equivalent of IDQQD(i.e. God mode). I could sneak past NPCs' noses and if discovered I only had to run away 2 or 3 feet and I would be sneaking again and could just take pot shots from behind and damn near instantly kill everything.
Also, I have never understood why if you starved yourself as a vampire you would gain more power while losing power after you fed. I sincerely thought vampires worked the other way around...or do I need to read my Bram Stoker once more?
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Dacnar: I think I have played all The Elder Scrolls games except Redguard. Arena was a lot of fun. Daggerfall was bug ridden. One you installed all the patches it was a lot of fun. Still had some annoying bugs, but it was playable and enjoyable. Battlespire I only got to run once or twice. It seemed to me to be the most bug filled of the Elder Scroll series. Morrowind I spent many ours playing. The one thing I hated most about Morrowind? Cliff Racers....Boy, I hated them. Oblivion is great. The graphics on it are outstanding. Add in some of the best mods and it becomes an experience.

There was a mod made with the specific goal of removing ALL cliffracers from the game. Nothing else, just the cliff racers.
Post edited June 30, 2009 by JudasIscariot
i would like to direct any and all TES fans to a few sites.
For complete info on the TES series goto http://www.uesp.net
Oblivion and Morrowind modding goto http://www.tesnexus.com
For a complete Ovlivion overhaul mod goto http://devnull.sweetdanger.net/convergence.html
This one is a major project that combines 4 major overhaul mods so they work together more smoothly. This one is not for the faint of heart.
Hope this helps you TES fans.
Post edited June 30, 2009 by ikreos
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ikreos: i would like to direct any and all TES fans to a few sites.
For complete info on the TES series goto http://www.uesp.net
Oblivion and Morrowind modding goto http://www.tesnexus.com
For a complete Ovlivion overhaul mod goto http://devnull.sweetdanger.net/convergence.html
This one is a major project that combines 4 major overhaul mods so they work together more smoothly. This one is not for the faint of heart.
Hope this helps you TES fans.

the fcom convergence mod is pretty dang sweet. its obscuro's overhaul, martigen's monsters, and like two other ones that add a crap load of items and things into the game. i played it with those on, its MUCH better, but be warned, MUCH harder. Almost gothic like to start.
Morrowind is still my favorite, mostly because of the environment (physical environment) is alien, interesting, but still immersing. Oblivion was too shiny, too perfect, too cookie cutter, it just didn't want me to be in the world.
Granted Morrowind has some issues, especially combat, but the world itself is great.
Old thread I know but were Redguard and battlespire released free like arena and daggerfall?
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reaver894: Old thread I know but were Redguard and battlespire released free like arena and daggerfall?
No, and both are rather difficult to run on todays systems, if possible at all.
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reaver894: Old thread I know but were Redguard and battlespire released free like arena and daggerfall?
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Siannah: No, and both are rather difficult to run on todays systems, if possible at all.
Damn but thanks for replying. time to let this thread die again,
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Siannah: No, and both are rather difficult to run on todays systems, if possible at all.
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reaver894: Damn but thanks for replying. time to let this thread die again,
Battlespire works fine in DOSBox with a fast enough PC.

For Redguard use GliDOS http://www.glidos.net/
I'm a little late to the party, but I wanted to share something I found if it helps someone out.

I'm sure some of you have seen this already, but DaggerfallSetup is pretty neat. It gives you a pre-tweaked, easy-to-setup installation (GOG style) along with some patches and tweaks, and extras.
Post edited January 14, 2011 by babby