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Pheace: Granted, the best profits from that tactic are probably still the titles that actually sell Steam Keys as they seem to be the most wanted by far, which kind of leaves in the middle whether this is actually a good or a bad thing for Steam in the long run.
It's terrible for Valve, Amazon is consuming a major portion of the revenue they got to have to themselves before. Those deep discounts were partially based on the concept of Valve getting the whole, fat pile of revenue off their storefront. Steam is useful as a platform because of all the free services, it storefront revenue pays for Steamworks. The shit deals you're seeing on Steam the last few sales probably has a lot to do with other storefronts cannibalizing so much of their revenue.
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keeveek: Thanks for the info :)
Yeah, Prime members got some intro deal where we got a lot more, then they pulled the "beta" title and tried to charge for it. Still the free deal is as was said and is a good deal, really. The player streams to desktop and all major phone platforms.
Post edited November 23, 2012 by orcishgamer
Thankfully, I haven't seen anything come up that I really want. Yet.
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KneeTheCap: Yes. Does it matter?
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keeveek: Nah, there's bed simulator coming up, and I was just wondering who would play such game. Now I know :P
Subtle. Appreciated.
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jefequeso: Thankfully, I haven't seen anything come up that I really want. Yet.
The flash deals have been horrible, even more so than the last time. The daily deals have mostly been the same or worse than what Amazon has or has had within the past week.

The only redeeming feature was scrolling through my wishlist of cheap games and picking up a bunch of stuff like Legend of the Fae, Hazen, Loki, and a few others for about 11 USD.
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keeveek: Nah, there's bed simulator coming up, and I was just wondering who would play such game. Now I know :P
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KneeTheCap: Subtle. Appreciated.
You ruin it when you explain it...
Post edited November 23, 2012 by orcishgamer
Which GOG member has the most damage from the Steam sale?

(i.e. - who's spent the most on games these past couple days?)
Post edited November 23, 2012 by mondo84
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mondo84: Which GOG member has the most damage from the Steam sale?

(i.e. - who's spent the most on games these past couple days?)
Definitely not me, i only got Kotor II for now.

Waiting for Puzzle Agent and Trine 2 dlc to go 75 pct to save few cents if anything, or i'll get them at 50pct on the 26 nov.
Post edited November 23, 2012 by koima57
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Narakir: Steam sales are wonderful for trolling...
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KneeTheCap: I don't understand why some of the simulator games get all that bashing? I myself actually like those games and I own them both, among plenty of other simulator games.

Does that mean I am a trollable gamer? Someone who has poor taste?
So, which one do you recommend?

I am curious about these games. I don't plan to buy any right now because of my backlog, but I wonder if these games could be a good way to better understand a world I know nothing about.


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orcishgamer: It's terrible for Valve, Amazon is consuming a major portion of the revenue they got to have to themselves before. Those deep discounts were partially based on the concept of Valve getting the whole, fat pile of revenue off their storefront. Steam is useful as a platform because of all the free services, it storefront revenue pays for Steamworks. The shit deals you're seeing on Steam the last few sales probably has a lot to do with other storefronts cannibalizing so much of their revenue.
Steam can't be too worried about that. So far, Amazon and the others Stem key sellers are helping them to become a monopoly. The more users they have, the better. And if Amazon really becomes a threat, I would think they can start charging more for those keys at any time.
Post edited November 23, 2012 by Andanzas
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orcishgamer: It's terrible for Valve, Amazon is consuming a major portion of the revenue they got to have to themselves before. Those deep discounts were partially based on the concept of Valve getting the whole, fat pile of revenue off their storefront. Steam is useful as a platform because of all the free services, it storefront revenue pays for Steamworks. The shit deals you're seeing on Steam the last few sales probably has a lot to do with other storefronts cannibalizing so much of their revenue.
That's short term implications in my opinion, not necessarily long term. As has been mentioned, it does help build people with Steam libraries, and we've all seen how loyal people with large Steam Libraries get.

That's ignoring the fact that even without Amazon, Steam wasn't the best place to get Steamworks games anymore if all you look at is price. Due to it's very nature, Steamworks games have been sold for less on other retailers, due to the simple fact that, if they don't, there's no reason to get them anywhere else but Steam. As a result, Steam does it's best to provide 'incentives' for people buying it on Steam, usually an exclusive Preorder bonus or something.

I've been wondering for a long time already how realistic it is to have Steamworks be a long time thing though. Because of the above, the more games there are that are Steamworks, the more they get undercut by other sellers. But as mentioned, they're trying to work with that. And the loyalty pretty much guarantees them some sales from people too lazy to look elsewhere, and guarantees them a lot of sales from games that are *not* Steamworks, but people want them in their list, so Steam is the only place to buy those. For that reason, I have to wonder whether the best middleground for Steamworks rather isn't for every game, but more something like half of them (or less).
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Pheace: That's short term implications in my opinion, not necessarily long term. As has been mentioned, it does help build people with Steam libraries, and we've all seen how loyal people with large Steam Libraries get.
But unlike the old guard users with huge Steam libraries, these users will have built them by buying from anyplace but Steam. I doubt they'll be that loyal. BF3 pretty much proved people would be willing to sign up for Origin (which ironically is a better app and interface than Steam by far). Hell, even uPlay seems to be "working".
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Andanzas: Steam can't be too worried about that. So far, Amazon and the others Stem key sellers are helping them to become a monopoly. The more users they have, the better. And if Amazon really becomes a threat, I would think they can start charging more for those keys at any time.
They really can't, Steam is caught as the middleman here, devs use Steamworks because it's easy, free and sells, if Valve voluntarily cuts the throat of non Steam storefront sales there will be hell to pay from developers, the platform will be straight up abandoned, because who wants to risk the viability of their game by tying themselves to a platform that may fuck you over (see how well developers are taking the Nintendo fuck-third-party-devs over policies), individually, to improve it's share of the market place?
Post edited November 23, 2012 by orcishgamer
I've been pretty impressed by the Steam sale thus far myself. The issue for me is I really don't have a lot of interest in most AAA releases these days. So even if the games are discounted 75% off, it doesn't mean a whole lot to me.

Now, the hidden 75%+ off discount on lower known titles or older ones? That's pretty great.
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Narakir: Steam sales are wonderful for trolling...
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KneeTheCap: I don't understand why some of the simulator games get all that bashing? I myself actually like those games and I own them both, among plenty of other simulator games.

Does that mean I am a trollable gamer? Someone who has poor taste?
Well people who gets trolled are those hardcore gamers whom all their friends will see they've a new game like this on their profile and start making fun of them.

BTW you've been trolled as well. But really the farm simulation is actually the one that would deserve to be gifted since it's quite decent if you're into that kind of things. I'll keep dustbin filler simulator for my enemies :o
Post edited November 23, 2012 by Narakir
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Ivory&Gold: No, Gabe! No!
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I only get titles from steam that are:

A.) Dirt cheap or on sale

and/or

b.) Don't have those ROTTEN ACHIEVEMENTS God how I hate those!!

and/or

c.) are Completely Free

because I'll admit I'm a cheapskate scabber the real reason is I can't afford $1000 for the newest AAA title and $100 for the DEE EEL SEE.
Post edited November 24, 2012 by fr33kSh0w2012
My question :

Will Amazon get the bigger slice from the autumn sale cake or Steam ?

I bought nothing .
Post edited November 24, 2012 by ne_zavarj
Can anyone recommend a 4x game from either Steam or Amazon sale that would be worth nabbing ? (looking for something with has a SP campaign - read the latest SOSE doesnt have a campaign...)
Post edited November 24, 2012 by nijuu