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I must admit that I was considering purchasing a PS4, but there are some bizarre entries in that FAQ that had me shaking my head.

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2013/10/30/ps4-the-ultimate-faq-north-america/

Apparently, the PS4 will be completely unable to play audio CDs or MP3s.

The PS4 will also not support media servers.

And to top it all off, in order to play any DVD or Blu-ray on the PS4, you have to go online and activate the feature or call Sony and ask them to send you an activation disc in the mail.


What the heck?
Admittedly, that isn't all that bad, and could actually be fixed.

Not that you should really care about the loss of such features, seeing as just about anything can play MP3, and to be honest, its about time we started looking for a newer format, the PNG of music, you might say, if OOG is gif.
I don't mind the lack of those features.
I have a Phillips mediaplayer hooked up to a 2 TB harddrive, uses max 15 watts during playback of 1080p videos.
Even less when playing MP3s.
The PS4 can't go that low doing the same.
The lack of CD playback might be an issue to some, but most of the people I know don't even buy CDs anymore, they either stream or buy digital downloads.
I'm going to buy a PS4 next year (don't have the money until spring), and use it for its purpose; Gaming.
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Darvond: Admittedly, that isn't all that bad, and could actually be fixed.

Not that you should really care about the loss of such features, seeing as just about anything can play MP3, and to be honest, its about time we started looking for a newer format, the PNG of music, you might say, if OOG is gif.
Yeah, well, I think the issue is that you don't forget to include simple features such as those. You intentionally exclude them.

Honestly, I'm maybe most bothered by the DVD/Blu-ray activation. What is the purpose of that? The first thing that comes to my mind is some sort of tracking of what movies you're playing on your PS4. I know Sony was the one carrying the biggest torch for that Cinevia DRM. Apparently if you play a copied Cinevia movie on a PS3 then Sony will shut down your console. What do they have in mind for the PS4 if they require you to register your console just to play a DVD or Blu-ray?
Despite the day one update (Version 1.50) for the system, it doesn't sound too bad...I guess? Still would be nice to have backwards compatibility for PS3 games, but that's just wishful thinking at this point.

EDIT:

Looking at the MP3 thing and lack of any support of DLNA, I'm not really sure what Sony is thinking with this. I don't have a PS3 and haven't used any of these features (or use MP3s that often), but getting rid of this stuff when people did use it (whether it's a minority or not, not sure which) doesn't really make sense.

Not sure about this all in all, I mainly just play games on consoles/handhelds and don't use most of these features on them.
Post edited October 30, 2013 by RayRay13000
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Laziter: I don't mind the lack of those features.
I have a Phillips mediaplayer hooked up to a 2 TB harddrive, uses max 15 watts during playback of 1080p videos.
Even less when playing MP3s.
The PS4 can't go that low doing the same.
The lack of CD playback might be an issue to some, but most of the people I know don't even buy CDs anymore, they either stream or buy digital downloads.
I'm going to buy a PS4 next year (don't have the money until spring), and use it for its purpose; Gaming.
I love using the PS3 to access my PC as a media server, having all of my media needs converged into one device is really nice.

As I mentioned earlier, I just want to know *why* they are attempting to curtail the PS4's use as a media console.
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yyahoo: As I mentioned earlier, I just want to know *why* they are attempting to curtail the PS4's use as a media console.
Because it isn't a media console. It was built as a games console. If you want a media platform, you've got plenty of choices.
That was intesting, thanks for posting the link.

I didn't scan it heavily, but it seemed to me that PS3 users are going to be pushed to upgrade simply by the lack of feature support for new games.

Otherwise it's mostly as expected. In fact, the PS3 thing was as expected too.

EDIT: Also, that release list looked a little thin didn't it?
Post edited October 30, 2013 by wpegg
I'd be more worried about the lack of backwards compatibility and the launch day line up of games. But I'm not getting a PS4 (at least) until the first slim model is announced.
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Laziter: I don't mind the lack of those features.
I have a Phillips mediaplayer hooked up to a 2 TB harddrive, uses max 15 watts during playback of 1080p videos.
Even less when playing MP3s.
The PS4 can't go that low doing the same.
The lack of CD playback might be an issue to some, but most of the people I know don't even buy CDs anymore, they either stream or buy digital downloads.
I'm going to buy a PS4 next year (don't have the money until spring), and use it for its purpose; Gaming.
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yyahoo: I love using the PS3 to access my PC as a media server, having all of my media needs converged into one device is really nice.

As I mentioned earlier, I just want to know *why* they are attempting to curtail the PS4's use as a media console.
True, it way more convenient, but I'm also thinking about the powerconsumption.
That's why I bought a Philips HMP2000, a good little mediaplayer that supports mediaservers, Netflix and other stuff.
It was cheap too, less than $100.
Before that I used my PS3, but I found it to be a hog on the electric bill.
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rodrolliv: I'd be more worried about the lack of backwards compatibility and the launch day line up of games. But I'm not getting a PS4 (at least) until the first slim model is announced.
I'm not worried, per say, as it has been shown that the PS1/2 can be emulated in X86, its more a matter of timing. I estimate that they might start to roll titles out as soon as late Q1 if they're on the ball.
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yyahoo: As I mentioned earlier, I just want to know *why* they are attempting to curtail the PS4's use as a media console.
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Darvond: Because it isn't a media console. It was built as a games console. If you want a media platform, you've got plenty of choices.
Well, the PS3 was marketed as "it can do everything." In fact, that's why I bought it. It was my first console since the Super Nintendo, and I got it because it was one of the best blu-ray players at the time of purchase (when the console was about 2 years old). I like consolidating everything into one device. it's so much less cluttered.

It seems like quite a step backwards to go from "it can do everything" to "here's several things it can't do." Not to mention the fact that Microsoft is focusing on its XBox One as a media console even to the point of adding cable tv support. Granted I would never use my console like that but it's quite a different strategy that Sony is taking in comparison to the PS3...
Post edited October 30, 2013 by yyahoo
Of course everyone has about a dozen devices to play mp3s or DVDs already, but you can't help but wonder why they'd exclude such basic functionality. One of the key advantages of the PS2 & 3 was the ability to also watch movie discs on them, especially since comparable DVD and Bluray players were still expensive back when the consoles were released.

And that movie DRM is pretty much an absolute no-go for me. Even if I had no interest in watching movies on the PS4, that's just not the kind of business practice I'd want to support.

Not like it makes much of a difference to me, since I already made my decision to ignore the next console generation and just focus on PC games instead. ( Primarily GOG titles, that is. )
All seems about right to me. Buy the console, be told how and when to use it and just be happy for this wonderful experience.
One of the guys I work with and I were discussing the upgrade ability for some games, and he was actually delighted that he could "for a small amount" trade up the games he is currently buying and play them on his new PS4. It showed "they really care about their players unlike the XBone", I can see this being a rough few years.



Off topic, +1 to you. I saw that and though it seemed a little too close to the Big Brother world of being told what and when you do something.
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CharlesGrey: And that movie DRM is pretty much an absolute no-go for me. Even if I had no interest in watching movies on the PS4, that's just not the kind of business practice I'd want to support.
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Darvond: Because it isn't a media console. It was built as a games console. If you want a media platform, you've got plenty of choices.
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yyahoo: Well, the PS3 was marketed as "it can do everything." In fact, that's why I bought it. It was my first console since the Super Nintendo, and I got it because it was one of the best blu-ray players at the time of purchase (when the console was about 2 years old). I like consolidating everything into one device. it's so much less cluttered.

It seems like quite a step backwards to go from "it can do everything" to "here's several things it can't do." Not to mention the fact that Microsoft is focusing on its XBox One as a media console even to the point of adding cable tv support. Granted I would never use my console like that but it's quite a different strategy that Sony is taking in comparison to the PS3...
I take it that the Wii-U's feature list must seem like finding a living troglodyte.