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This mod always pops up right after bots (or whatever) downvoted everything to spin negative topics/results for GOG. :D
Amazing coincidence...
I hope he/she will catch them soon. :D
Post edited January 16, 2022 by Ramor_
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Ramor_: Like, fight for it if you must.. but this is a bit too much. :D
I almost fell from the chair laughing... And yes, I am from EU and love old greek art, especially.
Because "old greek art" never had stories with sex. Sometimes involving underage boys or animals.

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Ramor_: Comparing cheap hot shot anime porn games (which some people may like) with underaged girls (not defending that with a 10' pole) with the greatest arts ever existing from the times of the greatest philosophers and craftsmen that will barely ever exist again, because we just don't live using our hands and minds in a way as before.. is a little bit bold statement... :D

Like, fight for it if you must.. but this is a bit too much. :D
I almost fell from the chair laughing... And yes, I am from EU and love old greek art, especially.
Before it will get all tore down everywhere anyway... mostly by people loving anime. :D
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Seryuu: My good dude, Muramasa is a 50 hours long game. It only has like around 5 sex scenes, which is less than an hour of the total content. So calling it a porn game is a straight out false statement. If that makes it a porn game, then Witcher, GTA and Mass Effect would also be porn games.
LOL. I'm afraid, your efforts are futile.

You are arguing with people, who would say that 2+2=5, if that helps to push their agenda. They will call the most sophisticated and deep story a "hot shot porn" if that story doesn't support their personal tastes and views. Regardless, how many or how few sex or erotic scenes are in it.

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Orkhepaj: vn-s are the most boring and lame "games"
if the stores are so great , why not make an anime or something good from them?
Why do you think that there aren't anime movies and series based on VNs?
Post edited January 16, 2022 by LootHunter
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Oh, I didn't notice they are selling a greek art here. :D I am going to look for it...
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A.) Don't buy them?
B.) Person from United States talking about 'First amendment' like anyone outside the U.S. gives a shit
C.) wargaming good, porn bad

In summary: I chuckled to myself reading this post

Also D.) Don't buy them?
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Ramor_: I didn't comment that much on the adult content (underaged girls are not an adult content :D) as the arguments like this one.
That is a strawman. Non of those characters are underage, all the voice actors were 18 years or older when the games were in development. They are all credited properly and everyone can confirm it for themselves. Maybe stop spreading lies about things you don't understand anything about?
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Did you even notice the advice I actually gave to you to not ruin the anime by pushing it that hard and by making these statements that could alienate people that wouldn't care otherwise?

And the fact that I stated it as "my opinion"?

Great advertising, btw.

I got your idea and I will keep it your idea. Good luck with it. :)
Post edited January 16, 2022 by Ramor_
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Ramor_: And yes, I am from EU and love old greek art, especially.
I would like to remind you that the ancient Greeks are the same guys who invented and praised in every possible way Zeus - a dude who raped almost everything that caught his eye. And they were often inspired not by butterflies and flowers either...
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Well, saying I love a greek art doesn't mean I love a greek porn.
You know, the ancient greece and art was quite like.. a big thing.
Plus, it's not 'a thing' here, except maybe some Hercules game without any porn in it.

But I didn't come here to argue, I just stated my opinion on the way you are trying to push it here, that's all.
Someone really doesn't like my opinion. Ok.

I will not address the gentleman.
Post edited January 16, 2022 by Ramor_
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Ramor_: I didn't come here to argue, I just stated my opinion on the way you are trying to push it here, that's all.
Said a person, who just wouldn't stop arguing that all hentai is a "hot shot porn" without any artistic value.

Someone really doesn't like my opinion. Ok.
If your "opinion" contradicts actual facts, why would people like it?
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I am seriously sorry if my carefully worded own opinions hurt someones feelings.
Your opinions are obviously better. I am sorry, I also tried to help.

I am on my way out. :D

(seriously, I'm leaving this topic)

EDIT: To just explain some possible misunderstanding. First of all - 'cheap hot shot' doesn't necessarily mean 'negative' to me. You offended yourself there. I didn't intend that.
There are many (most) of cheap hot shot games I consider myself to be a way superior to anime in overall quality, while they may be a cheap hot shot to any anime as a fact. :) There is lots of cheap movies I sometimes crave for, for example - doesn't make them necessarily worse, obviously. :)

When I stated the fact it's a cheap hot shot "art" style, while comparing it with the greek art, it was meant as a mere fact.
What is cheaper? And what is more "hot shoty" = clearly anime. I think it's obvious. Greek style has a huge value and it was a standard way longer than anime is a.. thing.. at all. I was just surprised by the comparison.

I just realized it may have been understood badly. So, I just wanted to clarify that I just meant it as a fact, not like you did understand it (possibly). I didn't mean to insult. I don't have to do that. I am not that kind of a person here.

But as said, leaving this topic to you, because I don't want to upset you. I just was thinking it could make you feel better if I would explain that to you. I hope you understood that.
Post edited January 16, 2022 by Ramor_
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kn1000a: I didn't read everything in this thread, but just going by people like OP I think a lot of people have not experience great visual novels. But I will chime in as someone who consume these kind of anime-style games.

Many of people who play these games, myself included, do hate the influx of cheap smut and hentai games on Steam as well. Good visual novels and eroge do not find much of a footing on Steam, in fact. When one thinks of hentai or porn on Steam, maybe Huniepop comes to mind, puzzle with some dialogues, choices, and sex. Or maybe Nekopara, a visual novel completely about cat girls and fetishizing them. Let's go all-age, and you might've heard about the popular Doki Doki Literature Club a few years ago that hits mainstream, a meta-breaking game that left a huge impact and surprises.

What if I also tell you none of these are the pinnacle of eroge and visual novels?

I assume from an outsider perspective, people just look at the flow of these kinds of games and think there's no value in them and that they're the same. Steam allows a lot of these low-effort games and that's what you usually seen posted around the communities, with their meme-y and absurd titles. The Japanese eroge scene has the same kind of thing, games that are just written to fap called nukige. Porn scenes after porn scenes, not much value in characters nor plot except fulfilling a fetish.

But like any community, the bottom tier entries should not represent the rest of its potential. Game is simply a medium, so is visual novel, anime, comics, novels, etc. Just like there are awesome games like the Witcher, there also exists FIFA ##. A lot of the Japanese porn games (eroge) are often high quality and have very well written plot. Song of Saya is a dark and horror Lovecraftian story that make you question the choices in life. Venus Blood series and Kamidori has some of the most complex and in-depth RPG system and units, which Sseth did videos on as well. Dead End Aegis has been compared to Watts' novel Blindsight. I'm not even touching some of the all-age visual novels like Steins;Gate or Umineko either.

Not all visual novels are about choosing a heroince and dating/fucking them, nor are they just about perverted, vile fetishes. If you really research into this kind of field, you would find a lot of good games as well, whether you dig RPG playstyle or want to read a well-written tale of tragedy to heroic feats. When I play one of these games, I don't have my dick in my hand to fap. In my opinion, porn in a good game is as much fappable as porn in a Hollywood movie would be. They're great additions to flesh out the whole story and set up, not really something I would consume to satisfy sexual urges.

That's just my two cents, just want to throw it out there that these hentai games people often see on Steam aren't everything.
Thats probably one of the better posts in here.

My only issue with it (well besides the blurred lines as gaming & VR progesses) is that no filter was introduced, it was Steam all over again, back when they opened the flood gates the top sellers were mostly anime/anime porn.

with having to sift through it all, i couldn't easily find a game i would have been interested in, so i just stopped bothering till i was able to turn if off, i even got news popups with it.

Which only goes back to the days of browsing the internet and every popup being porn, it was "yeah i like porn, but i don't want it coming up everytime i open my browser"

And it's the same with GOG, i personally (and i know i ain't the only one) don't want it thrown at me everytime i pull up the GOG store, it's not what my focus is when playing games...they could have EASILY provided another section you had to click on too view it, but it's obvious they preferred to throw it out there.
Post edited January 17, 2022 by DetouR6734
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JuWalk: these people can only demand that everyone hear and listen to them, while completely unwilling to hear those whose opinion differs from theirs
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JuWalk: These are stubborn fanatics who can only spit poison, consider their opinion the only true one and whine that other people refuse to treat them as a higher caste
That's literally what you're doing.

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JuWalk: Ok, I'll rephrase. A vegan demands that the supermarket stop selling meat, eggs, milk and honey for his sake.
Wrong again, the vegan asks the supermarket to stop selling animal products for the sake of the animals, that's kind of the whole point of veganism.

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JuWalk: And about the fact that women literally belonged to men - yes, this is really a problem. So, maybe you can leave the games alone and start helping real women from Saudi Arabia, for example? Or the Libyans, who have had the slave trade in full swing in the country for many years?
Hmm, here's a thought, you think you're so unselfish, why don't you quit moaning about other people not liking porn games and go do that?

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JuWalk: they need help muuuch more than those who simply do not exist ;)
I'll say it again: I. Don't. Think. Game. Characters. Need. Help. Did you understand it that time? If not, feel free to quote the post where you think I said I did.
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JuWalk: they need help muuuch more than those who simply do not exist ;)
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HappyPunkPotato: I'll say it again: I. Don't. Think. Game. Characters. Need. Help. Did you understand it that time? If not, feel free to quote the post where you think I said I did.
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JuWalk: Ok, I'll rephrase. A vegan demands that the supermarket stop selling meat, eggs, milk and honey for his sake.
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HappyPunkPotato: Wrong again, the vegan asks the supermarket to stop selling animal products for the sake of the animals, that's kind of the whole point of veganism.
It always amuses me, how people like you can claim opposite things in the span of single comment or single sentence.
Post edited January 16, 2022 by LootHunter
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HappyPunkPotato: Wrong again, the vegan asks the supermarket to stop selling animal products for the sake of the animals, that's kind of the whole point of veganism.
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LootHunter: It always amuses me, how people like you can claim opposite things in the span of single comment or single sentence.
What, animals don't exist? Or did you think I was saying a hypothetical vegan needed help?
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Seryuu: My good dude, Muramasa is a 50 hours long game. It only has like around 5 sex scenes, which is less than an hour of the total content. So calling it a porn game is a straight out false statement. If that makes it a porn game, then Witcher, GTA and Mass Effect would also be porn games.
There are 5 sex scenes where each one lasts over 10 minutes?
I don't remember that kind of a setup in Witcher, GTS or Mass Effect. Must be a Director's cut version. :)