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I'm sure that GOG is trying to get good old games on here. I think they may be hitting technological barriers though.

Several times I've heard (and have personal experience with) how hard getting older Windows games to work is on modern PCs. All the work that people have put into ScummVM and DosBox is amazing, and there isn't anything like that for early WIndows games. So GOG may be hitting a point where they've got most of the big-name early games, and are now hitting their heads on technological issues with 16-bit WIndows games.

They can't stop releasing games, so they're including more indie games and the early 2000s games. Both of those categories are more easily compatible with modern systems, although they come with new headaches of patches, more complex mod support, no ability to control config files, etc.

I definitely think the plan going forward is to incorporate as many kinds of games under the DRM-free umbrella as possible. They're not going to give up on old games certainly, but they are going to be having a wider variety of releases.

I have really appreciated how the GOG team is still curating the games catalog. GOG is focusing on the 'Good' as well as the 'Old', and that's fine with me.

I would still really like to see Cyberstorm here though.
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tfishell: ...
The articles suggest that if you buy the remakes (only from Steam?), the classic versions will be included for "free". So it is unsure whether at least Steam would sell the classic versions separately at all.

That could be either good news or bad news for getting the remakes also to GOG. Either it means:

- good: the classic versions won't even be available separately => the remakes are coming also to GOG

- bad: if the classic versions are still offered separately on GOG without remakes, but the Steam remakes include the classic versions without extra charge... even more people will question, why should one buy the classic-only versions from GOG, even if they are cheaper than the remake+classic bundle on Steam.

Oh well, we'll see. I may be ready to boycott buying them anywhere, and just be content with my retail versions. At least I also have Cataclysm, nyah nyah! :)
Post edited July 22, 2013 by timppu
Has Homeworld 1 or 2 been confirmed for GOG?
The gamespot article only says that it is coming to Steam it doesn't say that it is not coming to GOG. So the two articles don't contradict each other.
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timppu: Oh well, we'll see. I may be ready to boycott buying them anywhere, and just be content with my retail versions. At least I also have Cataclysm, nyah nyah! :)
:P I shouldn't get so "emotionally invested" in what GOG can and cannot, or will or will not bring; I've got plenty of other things to worry about, including trying to learn programming on my own during the summer. (I should get to my old motto of, basically, "Personally I'm only here for the good old games, but if enough people want x (new/indie), and GOG thinks it will sell well and they can make a deal, they will bring it.")

I'll see about trying to track down a few more games (I've made some contact about "Inner Worlds"), but I should probably be like, "Whatever," to a lot of this hullaballo. (I will gift a copy of Homeworld if it comes to GOG, though.)
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mondo84: Another article: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-07-22-gearbox-touching-up-homeworld-1-and-2-for-steam

It seems like these remasters might go the way of Age of Empires II HD - Steamworks and multiplayer integration. Hopefully the originals come to GOG as well.
That article is just referencing the Gamespot article which only mentioned Steam but not GOG. Then we have games.on.net which references GOG for the originals. The Eurogamer article changed coming to Steam to being remastered for Steam (the latter I agree would certainly leave GOG out). The original Gamespot article states that "[they'll] bring the games to digital platforms" but later only mentions that "The studio will bring both HW1 and HW2 to Steam". That doesn't necessarily mean GOG won't get the remastered or the originals - especially in light of the games.on.net which states the originals will make their way to GOG.com eventually.

So it may be the remastered versions get the Steamworks treatment while the classics get released on Steam (free if you buy the remastered) and GOG. I would've like to see GOG get remastered versions too, but sadly that may not happen and at least getting the classic here would be nice.
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HGiles: snip
I don't think you realize how many classic DOS games aren't on GOG yet.

And as I mentioned before, the only reason this is happening is because Relic released the source-code for Homeworld under the GPL years ago. As for Age of Empires II HD, well it's amazing Microsoft still had the source-code preserved given that Ensemble were shut-down years ago.

The pool of old games with source-codes that haven't been lost is very small, so they'll always be a place for GOG-style DOSBox/ScummVM packages.
"And as I mentioned before, the only reason this is happening is because Relic released the source-code for Homeworld under the GPL years ago. "

IIRC it was not under the GPL but some custom propietary license which may not even allow modifications to be made.

Edit:

It wasn't as a bad as I though. The agreement can be found . But it is certainly not the [url=http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html]GPL. In fact when Gearbox acquired the IP the community asked that they change the license, AFAIK they haven't responded to that request at all.
Post edited July 22, 2013 by Kristian
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Kristian: "And as I mentioned before, the only reason this is happening is because Relic released the source-code for Homeworld under the GPL years ago. "

IIRC it was not under the GPL but some custom propietary license which may not even allow modifications to be made.

Edit:

It wasn't as a bad as I though. The agreement can be found . But it is certainly not the [url=http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html]GPL. In fact when Gearbox acquired the IP the community asked that they change the license, AFAIK they haven't responded to that request at all.
Oh.... well that sucks
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Kristian: "And as I mentioned before, the only reason this is happening is because Relic released the source-code for Homeworld under the GPL years ago. "

IIRC it was not under the GPL but some custom propietary license which may not even allow modifications to be made.

Edit:

It wasn't as a bad as I though. The agreement can be found . But it is certainly not the [url=http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html]GPL. In fact when Gearbox acquired the IP the community asked that they change the license, AFAIK they haven't responded to that request at all.
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Crosmando: Oh.... well that sucks
here is the request for relicensing (with link to the homesource forum inside): First thing that should be done is to clean up that legal mess that the old owners of the IP did.[...] We just ask that the already released source code be made available under a GPL V2.0 or higher license and hosted on Github.Bouns points for allowing the data to be included as well. Of course, making versions available on GOG (DRM free) should be done as well.
Post edited July 22, 2013 by shaddim
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anjohl: Please refer to #56, which references #52 and #54, which collected contain all necessary canon. I cannot stress enough the importance of an UP TO DATE English dictionary. When encountering such advanced high level prose as is in use in this material for the first time, it is inevitable for students to misunderstand a key concept, and failing to admit their inadequacy and ask for my assistance, they resort instead to juvenile argumentation.

But, I forgive you.
Thread derailleur indeed.
Post edited July 23, 2013 by anjohl
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anjohl: Thread derailleur indeed.
I don't hide what I am though. And I see you still haven't found a good English dictionary. It's "derailer", not derailleur, which is French. It's also used in English but it refers to sprockets. Could it be that you accuse us of not understanding English when it's actually you who doesn't properly understand it? Would it help if I answer to you in French?

P.S. You still haven't presented proper arguments. Am I to understand that you are incapable of doing so? If yes, why do you keep attempting to present opinions as facts?
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JMich: Straw man, attempt to undermine Anjohl's truthful position by attacking him, pointing out typos, etc, etc.
Sometimes autocorrrect is just autocorrect.
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anjohl: Sometimes autocorrrect is just autocorrect.
And sometimes insulting the language of others while still failing the spelling undermines the effect of any arguments.
So, let's ignore your language mistakes (have you had a post without any mistakes so far?).

Let's start again then. Can you show me your source that the resources GOG is currently using to acquire older licenses is less than the resources GOG used 3 years ago? I never claimed GOG is using all of its resources to get old licenses, I claimed it's using more resources than it did 2 years ago. Feel free to present your arguments.

Oh, and let me point out post 52, where someone starts the "You don't understand me, get a dictionary". So no, if you wish to start insulting us, make sure you are infallible, and so far you've proven the opposite. Start argumenting as a rational being, and not one disconnected from reality, and I'll stop correcting your language failures. I'll stick to correcting your rational ones instead.
http://games.on.net/2013/07/gearbox-cco-wanted-more-people-to-love-homeworld-the-same-way-as-i-have/
Another article from Games.on.net, they mention again that GOG.com will be receiving the original games.