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Pretty deadly little thing.

Captain, I have some new information regarding "The Aristocrats". No, they're still laying low after their last heist, so low that we haven't seen Don or Freddie since the meeting with "The Boss". Someone might've hid them underground but we won't know for sure just now. Anyway, there's a new girl that was seen with Rick Fermione. She from outta town, don know exactly where. Seems a member of the borguise. It's bourgeoisie? Don't know sir, some fancy stuff I don't get--pearls, caviars, and champagnes, sir. Yes, one of my boys is following her. Yes, I know this is very delicate matter. Oh, the mayor... no, of course, no, I mean I'll talk to... Yes sir. No one seen. The report, yes. The last thing, sir--and this is a little bit unexpected--it looks like "The Aristocrats" are planning to move to a new district, any moment now. Can't tell for sure, but my bet is Connecticut Ave. We'll see. Will do, sir. Goodbye.

Omerta: City of Gangsters, an organized crime simulation you have been playing for the last couple of weeks just got bigger with The Con Artist DLC. There's a new henchman to recruit, new weapon, and a new district up for grabs. Experience "the greatest con of all time" in this action-packed expansion for only $4.99 on GOG.com.

Requires the base game Omerta: City of Gangsters on GOG in order to play.
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Roman5: Also: Keep in mind what this means for the future people

First they start selling DLC separately

Then they start selling Soundtracks/Goodies separately

Then they start selling the DRM free version of a game separately

Do you see with what we are dealing here people?

Fuck this shit and don't buy into this Con Artist
Nazicommunists riding dinosaurs?

Anyhow... 4MB of DLC seems just pitiful.
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Roman5: Also: Keep in mind what this means for the future people

First they start selling DLC separately

Then they start selling Soundtracks/Goodies separately

Then they start selling the DRM free version of a game separately

Do you see with what we are dealing here people?

Fuck this shit and don't buy into this Con Artist
I see what you're saying. I'm actually okay with them selling some of the newer soundtracks separately (since they otherwise wouldn't be here for many of the newer indies), but the point you raise is good: where does GOG draw the line?

I think the best thing we can do is not purchase this if we're not interested and want to send a message, and explain WHY we aren't purchasing it. I personally am not thrilled about having games over 20 dollars here - although people may get their money's worth with some of the Telltale titles - but that's just me.

I disagree, I still think the "slippery slope" is at least something to consider.

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grviper: Just what Omerta needs. A DLC. Because the people who bought it, didn't feel they wasted quite enough money.
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Alfie3000: Appropriately named "Con Artist" DLC.
(sad smile/chuckle) http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/210/e/c/gif_Ellis_Smile_by_captain_sad.gif
Post edited March 08, 2013 by tfishell
no way this is GOGs idea - the developer just released a DLC and GOG wants to allow people (who want it!) to have the full game experience

if you don't like it, don't buy it...
5 $ for this ?!
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Roman5: GOG was always about delivering value to Gamers, if we get more of this nonsense in the future then the core values of this site can start to break apart piece by piece
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MDyzzle: All we want is DELIVER the games.
Then deliver them in the Same way you have done it for 5 years

All content/DLC included into one release
Bonus goodies that give extra value
Stable and working release

If a publisher wants to get on their high horse and release a game THEIR WAY (whatever the hell that might be) here on YOUR STORE, tell them to hit the road, this is not fucking Burger King

By allowing this you are basically saying "Here publishers, do what you want on GOG, we don't care"

I dread to think what implications this gives for future GOG releases
Post edited March 08, 2013 by Roman5
If this means that GOG can convince companies like EA to release some of their newer games that include DLC as a matter of course, then I more than welcome this development. I'd like to buy modern games DRM-free. In a complete package if possible (GOTY or ultimate version such as New Vegas), but if not, then I'm willing to pay for it, as I would be in the past for any expansion package. As long as it is only new games that get this treatment and not classics, then we have nothing to worry about.

This may actually be a strong step in the right direction, as Bigger and better was a year ago and when everyone threw a temper tantrum. Look where GOG is now! It was the right choice then and it is the right one now. I for one have confidence in the GOG team that they will not sell their customers to the closest bidder.
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Roman5: I'm sorry but...What the fuck is this shit?

DLC? on GOG? Are you fucking kidding me?

This should be INCLUDED FOR FREE with the original Omerta game, which is already a very steep 40 bucks

Who's fucking bright Idea was this? GOG's? The publisher?

I am not happy with this at all

GOG was always about delivering value to Gamers, if we get more of this nonsense in the future then the core values of this site can start to break apart piece by piece
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SLP2000: you are the first in this thread who complains. Other gamers are happy / neutral about it.
It's the 5th or so user posting, one had to begin. I don't really like this myself.

I'm not particularly against DLC in GOG. However, I've come to expect free updates from here. If I buy Dungeon Keeper, and the expansion pack comes later, I expect to be added for free. I bought the Witcher 2, and when the extended version came out it got updated for free. This is the reason I will buy the witcher 3 on day 1, or preorder it, even if my machine can't run it.

I understand the need of allowing industry standards such as DLC in here as a way to get newer games. What I want to know is how future updates will be dealt with, because last time I checked GOG tries to get the most complete version available for us.

Personally, I'm all for Omerta having as many DLCs as it wants, and then 3 years from now omerta gold comes out and people (like me) get upgraded to that, regardless of having bought the DLCs or not. This means we still get the full package eventually, but people who want to pay for DLCs get access to it a lot earlier.

Can a blue explain how this will work?
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Roman5: GOG was always about delivering value to Gamers, if we get more of this nonsense in the future then the core values of this site can start to break apart piece by piece
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MDyzzle: GOG.com was build upon a foundation of delivering the best value to gamers. We know gamers are not stupid, and we know they won't buy anything we serve just because it's there. Of course we'd like to include all the DLCs, extra materials, soundtracks for free, but that's not always possible. For some of the games, it's possible to bundle all the expansions (or DLCs) in one package, for some it ain't. I can understand that you might be afraid that we're losing our values, but we're not. All we want is DELIVER the games. At the end, it's always YOU who decide--buy or skip. And we'd rather give you that choice now.
No offense, but you guys really just crossed a bit of a threshold though, the first standalone DLC being sold. I think many people, myself included, think it's good that GOG only release 4 games a week, it allows you to really spotlight them nicely. What will happen now if these Omerta guys (or others) start churning out DLC after DLC, forcing you guys to clog up the new releases and overshadow other new games?
Post edited March 08, 2013 by Crosmando
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Roman5: If a publisher wants to get on their high horse and release a game THEIR WAY here on YOUR STORE, tell them to hit the road, this is not fucking Burger King
Actually, no.
Check the posts asking "What about Patch X for game Y", or "Will we get the DLC/Expansion for Game Z" thread. What should GOG do then?

Option 1) Add the DLC as an extra item, like it did with Omerta.
Option 2) Refuse to sell the DLC, thus not giving the customers the option for the full game.
Option 3) Tell the publisher to GTFO, and remove the game from their catalogue.

What is the best option for the customer here? Because you are advocating for option 3.
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SLP2000: I hope that will bring more 1-3 yo games to GOG.
Good point, I can imagine that one of the main reasons for certain publishers' reluctance to release new/new-ish games on GOG was the lack of a proper DLC support mechanism.
With that obstacle gone, here's hoping GOG will expand their portfolio in a significant way.
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summitus: I only hope our beloved gog isn't turning into just one of those other digital stores too ... :(
It's still not a steam key, it's still DRM-free and it's not day 1 DLC. So GOG.com is still doing much better than other stores.
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Crosmando: What will happen now if these Omerta guys (or others) start churning out DLC after DLC, forcing you guys to clog up the new releases and overshadow other new games?
You mean we were supposed to have a game release today? Damn it, I didn't know Friday was game release day...
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Crosmando: What will happen now if these Omerta guys (or others) start churning out DLC after DLC, forcing you guys to clog up the new releases and overshadow other new games?
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JMich: You mean we were supposed to have a game release today? Damn it, I didn't know Friday was game release day...
No, I didn't mean that, I meant it might clog up the "Latest headlines" releases on the GOG frontpage.

EDIT: I mean, I wouldn't mind if it was ~expansions~, but GOG selling microtransaction-y 5$ DLC like this is going down a dangerous road.
Post edited March 08, 2013 by Crosmando
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Roman5: GOG was always about delivering value to Gamers, if we get more of this nonsense in the future then the core values of this site can start to break apart piece by piece
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MDyzzle: GOG.com was build upon a foundation of delivering the best value to gamers. We know gamers are not stupid, and we know they won't buy anything we serve just because it's there. Of course we'd like to include all the DLCs, extra materials, soundtracks for free, but that's not always possible. For some of the games, it's possible to bundle all the expansions (or DLCs) in one package, for some it ain't. I can understand that you might be afraid that we're losing our values, but we're not. All we want is DELIVER the games. At the end, it's always YOU who decide--buy or skip. And we'd rather give you that choice now.
Could you please add the information if a game has seperate DLCs on the on top the gamepage, easily visible so everyone can see if it's not the complete package? Something like for additional DLCs look here.
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Crosmando: No, I didn't mean that, I meant it might clog up the "Latest headlines" releases on the GOG frontpage.
Ah, misunderstood. Apologies for being a bit snarky :(