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Play one of the most challenging games of the '90s, full of scary action and haunting puzzles, that has now been HD remastered. Monster Bash HD is now available on GOG.COM along with a 25% discount that will last until 5th November 2021, 6 PM UTC.

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catbox_fugue: maybe call it something more meaningless like
"frightmare edition"
or
"dream update"

reguardless, adding the moniker "HD" to something means it is an updated version from the original
nomenclanture aside, "HD" only refers to the screen resolution, not the contents displayed.
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my name is supyreor catte: Doesn't need to be something meaningless, you could call it Monster Bash Remastered. The ability to scale low resolution art up to HD resolutions does not make the game HD.
By that definition everything I play in DOSbox and ScummVM is HD. In fact, by your definition anything displayed on a modern monitor is automatically HD. If I switch my desktop to 640x480 and let the monitor scale it up then it's still HD because it's the screen resolution that matters, not the contents displayed. Right?

To call a 2D game HD the artwork needs to be... high definition. Again, I have no issue with the choices they've made in this remaster, it's just the ridiculous name I take issue with.

I'm not complaining it's not HD (I think it's a very tastefully done remaster), I simply take issue with the claim that it's HD.
I get your point, but I think you are upset a bit too much over this. I mean, feel free to do so, it's your brain, but I think you could use that brain power for something which is actually good and productive for the world. Like playing games. I know I do.
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trusteft: I think you could use that brain power for something which is actually good and productive for the world. Like playing games.
This made me laugh, a lot.
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trusteft: I get your point, but I think you are upset a bit too much over this. I mean, feel free to do so, it's your brain, but I think you could use that brain power for something which is actually good and productive for the world. Like playing games. I know I do.
I'm not upset, and these posts didn't exactly take a lot of time or effort on my part.
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JMB9: HD 1280x720,
Whoops, looks like you just unproved your point: HD does have a specific meaning.
To call a game HD, the 2D art should have a minimum native resolution of 1280x720 - that is to say it isn't being scaled up to 1280x720. If it exceeds that and is being scaled down that's fine, you can still call it HD.

Scaling up a 320x200 game 4x does not make the game HD any more than doing the same in DOSbox does.
Post edited October 31, 2021 by my name is supyreor catte
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trusteft: I get your point, but I think you are upset a bit too much over this. I mean, feel free to do so, it's your brain, but I think you could use that brain power for something which is actually good and productive for the world. Like playing games. I know I do.
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my name is supyreor catte: I'm not upset, and these posts didn't exactly take a lot of time or effort on my part.
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JMB9: HD 1280x720,
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my name is supyreor catte: Whoops, looks like you just unproved your point: HD does have a specific meaning.
To call a game HD, the 2D art should have a minimum native resolution of 1280x720 - that is to say it isn't being scaled up to 1280x720. If it exceeds that and is being scaled down that's fine, you can still call it HD.

Scaling up a 320x200 game 4x does not make the game HD any more than doing the same in DOSbox does.
Pedantic.

Also, how do you know the art is scaled up? It's entirely redrawn, it could be redrawn in an HD resolution. Your argument makes no sense.
Post edited October 31, 2021 by tomexplodes
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tomexplodes: Pedantic.
It's a little weird to accuse someone of being overly concerned with strict definitions when the discussion appears to hinge on the exact definition of something.

I would actually call it not pedantic enough because the entire line of reasoning presumes the abbreviation "HD" can only ever mean technical standard definitions of display modes.

However, I can also use the term naturally and, if I have two versions of something, call the more defined version the "high-definition version" and the less defined the "low-definition version". Instances of this are countless.

In this sense this entire argument is pedantic and, I say this as a staunch pedant, pointless.
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tomexplodes: Pedantic.

Also, how do you know the art is scaled up? It's entirely redrawn, it could be redrawn in an HD resolution. Your argument makes no sense.
Because I have eyes? You can clearly see that every pixel of the artwork is made up of multiple display pixels. It's extremely obvious and being redrawn has nothing to do with it, because it's been redrawn at the same resolution as the original game.
Post edited October 31, 2021 by my name is supyreor catte
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tomexplodes: Pedantic.
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skirtish: In this sense this entire argument is pedantic and, I say this as a staunch pedant, pointless.
Yes.
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tomexplodes: Pedantic.

Also, how do you know the art is scaled up? It's entirely redrawn, it could be redrawn in an HD resolution. Your argument makes no sense.
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my name is supyreor catte: Because I have eyes? You can clearly see that every pixel of the artwork is made up of multiple display pixels. It's extremely obvious and being redrawn has nothing to do with it, because it's been redrawn at the same resolution as the original game.
All the blah blah blah aside, HD literally just means "high definition." You can post or retroactively apply it to anything you want, because when the term was first coined, it still really didn't mean anything. It's an easy thing to apply to anything that's in a HIGHER DEFINITION than what isn't. If it looks sharp on high resolution and the graphics are redrawn to look much better with more colors, that's "HD" enough for... anyone but you, I think.
For crying out loud, 480p was considered HD at one point.
Post edited November 01, 2021 by tomexplodes
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tomexplodes: All the blah blah blah aside, HD literally just means "high definition." You can post or retroactively apply it to anything you want, because when the term was first coined, it still really didn't mean anything. It's an easy thing to apply to anything that's in a HIGHER DEFINITION than what isn't. If it looks sharp on high resolution and the graphics are redrawn to look much better with more colors, that's "HD" enough for... anyone but you, I think.
For crying out loud, 480p was considered HD at one point.
The game is literally the same resolution it was before. I'll say it again: if 320x200 being scaled up x4+ is HD, then anything and everything is HD. Any game in DOSbox with an integer scaler looks sharp on a high resolution screen, so that's HD too?
No, the meaning of HD was standardised 15+ years ago, 720p is the minimum definition of HD.
Adding more colours is not the same thing as adding more definition.
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tomexplodes: All the blah blah blah aside, HD literally just means "high definition." You can post or retroactively apply it to anything you want, because when the term was first coined, it still really didn't mean anything. It's an easy thing to apply to anything that's in a HIGHER DEFINITION than what isn't. If it looks sharp on high resolution and the graphics are redrawn to look much better with more colors, that's "HD" enough for... anyone but you, I think.
For crying out loud, 480p was considered HD at one point.
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my name is supyreor catte: The game is literally the same resolution it was before. I'll say it again: if 320x200 being scaled up x4+ is HD, then anything and everything is HD. Any game in DOSbox with an integer scaler looks sharp on a high resolution screen, so that's HD too?
No, the meaning of HD was standardised 15+ years ago, 720p is the minimum definition of HD.
Adding more colours is not the same thing as adding more definition.
You're right, there's absolutely no more definition in the well drawn graphics of the new version compared to the old version. They look literally exactly the same. Dude, I'm done with you, you're lame as hell.
Post edited November 01, 2021 by tomexplodes
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my name is supyreor catte: The game is literally the same resolution it was before. I'll say it again: if 320x200 being scaled up x4+ is HD, then anything and everything is HD. Any game in DOSbox with an integer scaler looks sharp on a high resolution screen, so that's HD too?
No, the meaning of HD was standardised 15+ years ago, 720p is the minimum definition of HD.
Adding more colours is not the same thing as adding more definition.
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tomexplodes: You're right, there's absolutely no more definition in the well drawn graphics of the new version compared to the old version. They look literally exactly the same. Dude, I'm done with you, you're lame as hell.
There is no more definition, the image is made up of the same number of pixels as the original game.

You seem to think I'm saying the new one looks the same. The new one does look better, it has more colours and better drawn backgrounds, it's just not any higher definition than the original. Words mean things and definition does not refer to number of colours or quality of drawing. Are you being willfully ignorant or just plain ignorant?
At this point I'd be relieved if you told me you were trolling me.
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tomexplodes: You're right, there's absolutely no more definition in the well drawn graphics of the new version compared to the old version. They look literally exactly the same. Dude, I'm done with you, you're lame as hell.
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my name is supyreor catte: There is no more definition, the image is made up of the same number of pixels as the original game.

You seem to think I'm saying the new one looks the same. The new one does look better, it has more colours and better drawn backgrounds, it's just not any higher definition than the original. Words mean things and definition does not refer to number of colours or quality of drawing. Are you being willfully ignorant or just plain ignorant?
At this point I'd be relieved if you told me you were trolling me.
Eh, kinda. I'm disabled and constantly bored, so I argue a lot.
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my name is supyreor catte: Scaling up a 320x200 game 4x does not make the game HD any more than doing the same in DOSbox does.
Worse, the dev refuses to acknowledge 1:1.2 pixel aspect ratio correction (resulting in 4:3 image) in any of these "HD" remakes. Everything is fat/wide at 16:10 output. Dev reckons it is so that pixels are "square & crispy", which is bullshit on a 1080p monitor (most common resolution) as 320×200 does not integer scale anyway ("crispy" nearest-neighbour artifacts).
Post edited November 01, 2021 by KingSyphilis
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tomexplodes: Eh, kinda. I'm disabled and constantly bored, so I argue a lot.
Hehe, I did find myself arguing online quite a lot during lockdown so I know where you're coming from.

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KingSyphilis: Worse, the dev refuses to acknowledge 1:1.2 pixel aspect ratio correction (resulting in 4:3 image) in any of these "HD" remakes. Everything is fat/wide at 16:10 output. Dev reckons it is so that pixels are "square & crispy", which is bullshit on a 1080p monitor (most common resolution) as 320×200 does not integer scale anyway ("crispy" nearest-neighbour artifacts).
You're preaching to the choir! I'm aware that most games developed in 320x200 and 640x400 were meant to be displayed at 4:3 and this is likely among them. While I like my pixels crispy, non-integer nearest-neighbour scaling is horrible, so if there's no integer scaling there really is no reason to not correct the aspect ratio.
I'd much rather have "biggest possible integer" scaling, with bilinear scaling then applied to bring that up to full resolution and correct the aspect ratio.
Post edited November 02, 2021 by my name is supyreor catte
Two problems with this game - 1. The configure keys (C) doesn't work - doesn't seem to do anything. 2. You can't seem to save the game? There's no shortcut (I've literally pressed every key), or a 'save' option in the main menu. Pretty sure the original let you save after every level.