And what was the sample size on that? Or perhaps the margin of error? While we're at it, what about that survey that was about what other systems we would like to have emulated here?

If we really drove them to it, then why hasn't any of that other stuff happened. Oh, I know, because it has nothing to do with a survey by a small portion of their entire customer base.

No, it's a dumb move as there are already other retailers that engage in that. There will be competition where there wasn't for what GOG used to be. What's more there are still tons of other systems which GOG could expand into without having to deal with competitors.
I understand evolution just fine, what you don't understand is that changing your argument midstream just reinforces the notion that you have no idea what you're talking about.

TheEnigmaticT stated earlier, I believe it was in this thread, that approx. 5% of GOG's customers actually visit and use the forums. Some subset of that number would have completed the survey. Therefore you are correct and he is completely wrong.

Really though, you are just banging your head against the wall trying to reason with this guy. I can't be done. You might was well let the troll go back to his bridge and enjoy the peace. I ignore him now myself.

All of this could be cleared up by increasing the number of releases from 2 a week. Survey or not , I'm sure very few people would like to see a decline in older games on GOG but with more modern titles creeping in along with Indies, retro titles are bound to be released more sporadically.

As retro games are what brought me here, I feel that moving away from them to more freely available titles to be bad for business, but with the promis of older titles this week I guess we'll see...

The survey was actually announced as a regular newspost on the storefront, so it definitely was not a forum-only affair. Here's the newspost and here the discussion thread which pre-empted quite a lot of the arguments about this new development.

So you're now implying that GOG somehow lied to us, manipulate us, that the majority wanting newer games was in fact a (very small) minority (under 5%) and they wanted to do that anyway no matter what.

Gee guys, are you for real? I'm going back to another word used here in this topic to describe some state of mind ... paranoia much?

So now GOG manipulates and lies to their customers (majority), droving them to a direction where they dont want to go?

And regarding that 5% for forum, THE SURVEY WAS NOT ON FORUMS, IT WAS ON THE FRONT PAGE like a game release. Every one of us got a suplimentary email too regarding this.
So the survey was seen by almost all of their customers, being in the holiday season too when everybody's shopping. I'm pretty sure a lot did take their time too to complete it, not only read it. After all, i have no reasons to think gog manipulates and lies as you imply they do.
Im pretty sure this was not 5%. On the contrary, was on the other extreme.
But ofc only GOG can shed some light regarding the percentages.

So now competition is a bad thing, eh? And monopolies are good, right?
So funny that this is coming from a free and liberal individual like yourself and not from a "dictator" like me :)
I think this quote speaks for itself so i wont comment anymore on it.

Maybe you'll enlighten me, where did i changed my argument? I've been repeating the whole concept many times and i'm pretty sure i didn't "changed my argument".
It's probably just you with no arguments left, so the way i see it its just a misdirection for your part.

Fair enough and thank you very much. It's nice to get the actual word from the source.

Good and old-school games like Machinarium, Trine and Legend of Grimrock are perfect for GOG.

I think games like Dungeons and Dragons: Dragonshard, Gothic 3 and Conflict: Desert Storm are far more contrary to GOG's philosophy than Machinarium, Trine or Legend of Grimrock.

If you are going to complain about these latest games, then you should add The Witcher and The Witcher 2 to the list as well.

Another VERY NICE surprise by GOG:
Witcher dev giving away "legendary" PC RPG free on GOG.com on Thursday

By the way, Machinarium may have been released in 2009, but in spirit, it is definitely a good old game. I mean, the focus here is art, not top-notch graphics, so this could have been as easily released 15 years ago, and no one would notice. It is definitely worth every penny, and kudos to GOG.com that they added it to their catalogue. I don't know about those of you who fear older games will be neglected, but at least in my view, this only builds my confidence in GOG.com's publishing policy.

Collector's Edition? What does it mean? Is there some extra content?

Well, considering I've been hear nearly a whole year longer than you, I'd say I've been coming to GOG for quite a long time. To my knowledge, I've never complained about a given "new" or "indie" game, though I have indeed stated I never requested such additions. Hmm.. I've been guilty once or twice of improper generalizations in my lifetime, but I must say you've certainly been busy spreading a rather incorrect assumption.

As for "another camp's arguments", I'm assuming you mean your own, cause I haven't really seen much else going on the way you have. Or do you mean my comment? Cause really, it was just the same handful of people who'd been making comments against everyone who said "I didn't ask for this". They say the vocal majority is frequently the statistical minority, so who knows.


On a related note. I believe someone said about 5% of GOG's userbase even visits the forums in regards to the poll/survey. Then another said it was also on the main page. Well, I do check my email periodically, but never saw a poll, nor a survey. I know we'll never get the true numbers, though I don't know if I really believe that dozens of thousands really answered with "yes, we want new and indie games". It doesn't help that we can't see how many people are even registered with the site or what their current traffic is like. Well, that may be untrue, but I don't know how I'd go looking into that sort of thing.

Actually, I really only get my news of GOG's business via email cause I don't come to the site every day. I went through that phase the first few months I was here, but it didn't seem like there was enough to keep me active. I only owned like 5 games at the time. Course, now I'm up to about 20, possibly more.. and I still don't remember to check the place often. :p

I am pretty sure that's the way it is for a lot of people; I won't say most cause I can't substantiate that.


ON TOPIC -- Does anyone know what the system requirements for Machinarium are? I tried looking on Steam, but for some reason the page wouldn't load for me.

It says under the video on the product page......

Minimum system requirements: Windows® XP / Vista® / Windows® 7, 1.8 GHz Processor, 1 GB RAM, 380GB HDD.

Oh, wow, I guess I never noticed. I don't think I've ever seen the system requirements for any of the games ever mentioned on their informational pages in all the years I've been coming here.

I guess either I just never looked in the right spot, or my memory's getting worse.