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I won't go in saying I am sadden by GOG or angry. I am saying there needs to be a stand, enough is enough!
Stop with the Chinese Censorship!
This is not just about games! It's about our freedom!
What's next?
Ban any Australian game/movie because China has a beef with them?
Don't put any Taiwan reference because China wants them to submit?
I know what companies do they, live to make money, but this at the cost of freedom of speech, the freedom many fought and died for.

GOG the REAL gamers are giving you a choice FREEDOM or OPPRESSION?
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Mikesemb: I won't go in saying I am sadden by GOG or angry. I am saying there needs to be a stand, enough is enough!
Stop with the Chinese Censorship!
This is not just about games! It's about our freedom!
What's next?
Ban any Australian game/movie because China has a beef with them?
Don't put any Taiwan reference because China wants them to submit?
I know what companies do they, live to make money, but this at the cost of freedom of speech, the freedom many fought and died for.

GOG the REAL gamers are giving you a choice FREEDOM or OPPRESSION?
I'm pretty sure some of GOG's forefathers fought against communist oppression, or at least suffered. Too bad this generation turned out to be spineless worms.
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It's easy for a troll to scream "make a stand" but in the real world we have something called contracts, and in the real world we have something called laws. China makes its own laws, and the law is if you want to do business in China you need to do whatever the hell the chinese government wants you to. If you don't then China just revokes your right to do business there.

"Make a stand" really means "abandon the chinese market", just so you know what you're actually talking about that is.
Post edited December 17, 2020 by IAmBored2
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IAmBored2: It's easy for a troll to scream "make a stand" but in the real world we have something called contracts, and in the real world we have something called laws. China makes its own laws, and the law is if you want to do business in China you need to do whatever the hell the chinese government wants you to. If you don't then China just revokes your right to do business there.

"Make a stand" really means "abandon the chinese market", just so you know what you're actually talking about that is.
So what? We just stand there and let the chinese giverment silence who ever they want? To push down and bully who ever they please!?

They invade Hong Kong, and we just SHUT UP and take it to make china money!
I was raised in a FREE world where we fight for our rights! Where we fight for our freedom to speak! China no mater what reasom has no right to push on its censorship.

Call me a troll if you want, but i am a troll who will not just kneel down and let the CCP tell me what to say or do!
Better off a free troll and a oppressed man.
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IAmBored2: It's easy for a troll to scream "make a stand" but in the real world we have something called contracts, and in the real world we have something called laws. China makes its own laws, and the law is if you want to do business in China you need to do whatever the hell the chinese government wants you to. If you don't then China just revokes your right to do business there.

"Make a stand" really means "abandon the chinese market", just so you know what you're actually talking about that is.
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Mikesemb: So what? We just stand there and let the chinese giverment silence who ever they want? To push down and bully who ever they please!?

They invade Hong Kong, and we just SHUT UP and take it to make china money!
I was raised in a FREE world where we fight for our rights! Where we fight for our freedom to speak! China no mater what reasom has no right to push on its censorship.

Call me a troll if you want, but i am a troll who will not just kneel down and let the CCP tell me what to say or do!
Better off a free troll and a oppressed man.
Would you be saying the same thing when your annual income dependent on it? As well as hundreds of your employees?
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Mikesemb: So what? We just stand there and let the chinese giverment silence who ever they want? To push down and bully who ever they please!?

They invade Hong Kong, and we just SHUT UP and take it to make china money!
I was raised in a FREE world where we fight for our rights! Where we fight for our freedom to speak! China no mater what reasom has no right to push on its censorship.

Call me a troll if you want, but i am a troll who will not just kneel down and let the CCP tell me what to say or do!
Better off a free troll and a oppressed man.
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Yeshu: Would you be saying the same thing when your annual income dependent on it? As well as hundreds of your employees?
You're under the illusion that, if you appease them this time, they'll be happy. If you appease them this time, they'll know you're their plaything, until all of your value is squeezed out. Commie 101.
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Mikesemb: So what? We just stand there and let the chinese giverment silence who ever they want? To push down and bully who ever they please!?

They invade Hong Kong, and we just SHUT UP and take it to make china money!
I was raised in a FREE world where we fight for our rights! Where we fight for our freedom to speak! China no mater what reasom has no right to push on its censorship.

Call me a troll if you want, but i am a troll who will not just kneel down and let the CCP tell me what to say or do!
Better off a free troll and a oppressed man.
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Yeshu: Would you be saying the same thing when your annual income dependent on it? As well as hundreds of your employees?
So their annual income is dependant on censoring a game for the CCP? Hmm, I thought it was just gamers that didn't want the game on their platform. Are you calling them liars? Why are you here defending liars exactly? How would you feel about the Chinese government coming in to your home and telling you what you are allowed to play and not play? Cause it just happened friend. You should feel violated, not worried about a corp's bottom line.

How does it feel to know that every game you currently play has been approved by China and you aren't allowed to play what they have deemed inappropriate. Have some diginity. There is more to life than wealth, the CCP's power comes from the world's never ending greed and bucket of gold that will never be full enough. It's time to get over capitalism and the first step to doing that, is to acknowledge there are more important things than stacks of paper called "wealth". If CDprojekt can't sustain themselves without resorting to blood money from a murderous dictator's country, then maybe they shouldn't be in business anymore. You ever consider that?
Post edited December 17, 2020 by FallenHeroX1
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Mikesemb: So what? We just stand there and let the chinese giverment silence who ever they want? To push down and bully who ever they please!?

They invade Hong Kong, and we just SHUT UP and take it to make china money!
I was raised in a FREE world where we fight for our rights! Where we fight for our freedom to speak! China no mater what reasom has no right to push on its censorship.

Call me a troll if you want, but i am a troll who will not just kneel down and let the CCP tell me what to say or do!
Better off a free troll and a oppressed man.
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Yeshu: Would you be saying the same thing when your annual income dependent on it? As well as hundreds of your employees?
China is not the only country in the planet, yes they have a big market, but they are not the only one.
Let me ask you a question, are you polish?
Post edited December 17, 2020 by Mikesemb
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Mikesemb: So what? We just stand there and let the chinese giverment silence who ever they want? To push down and bully who ever they please!?

They invade Hong Kong, and we just SHUT UP and take it to make china money!
I was raised in a FREE world where we fight for our rights! Where we fight for our freedom to speak! China no mater what reasom has no right to push on its censorship.

Call me a troll if you want, but i am a troll who will not just kneel down and let the CCP tell me what to say or do!
Better off a free troll and a oppressed man.
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Yeshu: Would you be saying the same thing when your annual income dependent on it? As well as hundreds of your employees?
Imagine living in a world where China and it's people are the only ones you can do business with.
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IAmBored2: It's easy for a troll to scream "make a stand" but in the real world we have something called contracts, and in the real world we have something called laws. China makes its own laws, and the law is if you want to do business in China you need to do whatever the hell the chinese government wants you to. If you don't then China just revokes your right to do business there.

"Make a stand" really means "abandon the chinese market", just so you know what you're actually talking about that is.
Yes, LAWS. Law it's something that only works for said country so I fail to see how China PR laws and wishes should apply to me.

Next thing what? Ban Sleeping Dogs cause it's banned in Germany and Germany is a big market? Release Witcher 2 censored WW as in GER and AUS?

If China PR's terms for GOG to operate in China PR are ban and censor games wordlwide then GOG should take a stand and refuse to enter chinese market. (Or drop Rest of World market)

Besides I don't see how old singleplayer western games can make a bank in a country, dominated by chinese history MMOs.
Post edited December 17, 2020 by VBProject
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IAmBored2: It's easy for a troll to scream "make a stand" but in the real world we have something called contracts, and in the real world we have something called laws. China makes its own laws, and the law is if you want to do business in China you need to do whatever the hell the chinese government wants you to. If you don't then China just revokes your right to do business there.

"Make a stand" really means "abandon the chinese market", just so you know what you're actually talking about that is.
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VBProject: Yes, LAWS. Law it's something that only works for said country so I fail to see how China PR laws and wishes should apply to me.

Next thing what? Ban Sleeping Dogs cause it's banned in Germany and Germany is a big market? Release Witcher 2 censored WW as in GER and AUS?

If China PR's terms for GOG to operate in China PR are ban and censor games wordlwide then GOG should take a stand and refuse to enter chinese market. (Or drop Rest of World market)

Besides I don't see how old singleplayer western games can make a bank in a country, dominated by chinese history MMOs.
Especially one that habitually and routinely pirates literally everyone else's intellectual property then engages in blatantly false lawsuits solely as a method of further harassment. There is no CCP law worthy of the title.
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Mikesemb: So what? We just stand there and let the chinese giverment silence who ever they want? To push down and bully who ever they please!?

They invade Hong Kong, and we just SHUT UP and take it to make china money!
I was raised in a FREE world where we fight for our rights! Where we fight for our freedom to speak! China no mater what reasom has no right to push on its censorship.

Call me a troll if you want, but i am a troll who will not just kneel down and let the CCP tell me what to say or do!
Better off a free troll and a oppressed man.
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Yeshu: Would you be saying the same thing when your annual income dependent on it? As well as hundreds of your employees?
I would never be foolish enough to place my future livelyhood at the mercy of the CCP. I'm not an idiot who'd screw them no matter what like that.

By the way. You may think these examples Mike has come up with are exaggerations.

No, these are all things the communist ursupers have previously demanded other developers and publishers do. The problem with paying the danegeld, is you never get rid of the extortionist. You just robbed blind until you're no longer useful to them and killed.

Capitulating to the CCP, even once places CD Projekt and it's subsidiary gog.com at direct risk of destruction at CCP hands. All your employees, all your intellectual properties, everything you have could and most likely will be stolen by them.

I implore upon you CD Projekt to make the right choice, the smart choice. Keep faith with the people who've backed you thick and thin. Not those who approach you with demands you should never agree to that result only in your inevitable destruction at CCP hands.
Post edited December 17, 2020 by Doomjedi
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Doomjedi: Especially one that habitually and routinely pirates literally everyone else's intellectual property...
Nope, the Western corps gave away their IP out of simple greed - to produce more cheaply. First the former workers (now unemployed) at home suffered for that, later those companies realized they shot themselves severely in the foot. Because right next to their factory, the Chinese would erect their own factory with the same product, only even cheaper. That was completely legal, all laid out in contracts the managers from the West signed, blinded by "cost reductions" and smiling and humble little Chinese officials.

You can blame the Chinese for doing business very shrewdly. But who really fucked up that were the managers of the Western companies.
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Must admit there is something very "funny" about a Polish company bending the knee to a communist party. Tells me that a whole generation has sadly left Poland and the current one has forgotten the past.

And I'm not talking about a normal past I'm talking about a past where indescribable acts of evil were carried out on its people.

Funny what money can do to people.
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rick1981ireland: Funny what money can do to people.
Greed....greed never changes.
This is not the first time GOG bends the knee. Remember how they apologized for a tweet with Postal 2 screenshot? I used to think of GOG and CDPR are better compared to the other big gaming companies. But really they are all the same, Blizzard, EA, Ubisoft, Activision. I think it's time to stop giving them money and get real DRM free versions from high seas.
Because voting with your dollar is the only way to give a message to these hack companies.
Post edited December 17, 2020 by Madferit_UA