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DukeNukemForever: I really hope to see that svga-version as bonus, but I can understand gog here why they preferred scummvm and the normal vga-version. Sierra games are well known for speed bugs, which means while the game runs fine at the beginning you get in trouble in some action parts. As example, I believe one time-critical area is that river-float-part in larry 3. To use scummvm here is easier and better, because scummvm already tried to fix such problems and with close contact to the scummvm-team (like dotemu with Tony Tough) GOG can try to fix such problems easier in the future.
yes but DOSbox also fixes those since you can run the game at a set speed if not then QFG4 would crash contently and other Sierra releases here would be neigh unplayable due to timing issues the point is they could of use DOSbox easily but they went with scumm probley because of it would require less testing and they could toss it out faster.

And because of that we suffer with a bastardized version of Larry 6 also it still no excuse to cut the SVGA files out
Post edited January 28, 2013 by DCT
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DukeNukemForever: I really hope to see that svga-version as bonus, but I can understand gog here why they preferred scummvm and the normal vga-version. Sierra games are well known for speed bugs, which means while the game runs fine at the beginning you get in trouble in some action parts. As example, I believe one time-critical area is that river-float-part in larry 3. To use scummvm here is easier and better, because scummvm already tried to fix such problems and with close contact to the scummvm-team (like dotemu with Tony Tough) GOG can try to fix such problems easier in the future.
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DCT: yes but DOSbox also fixes those since you can run the game at a set speed if not then QFG4 would crash contently
Didn't got my hand on QfG4 so far, but scummvm is indeed for some games not the perfect choice yet and needs some fixes. To switch to dosbox is in such cases a good decision, but maybe they're still in contact with the scummvm-team to fix this and we get an update soon.

Edit: I'm too slow or your too fast for me ;-) About the rest of your posting, I believe it's a long run decision to have with scummvm an easier way to fix such games, because the scummvm-team already spent much time in fixing this oldies. For gog it's of course easier and faster to use scummvm. But, if some games are really unplayable with scummvm at the moment, they should of course use dosbox for now..
Post edited January 28, 2013 by DukeNukemForever
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Post edited January 28, 2013 by MoP
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DCT: I love this site but damn they do some silly things.
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grviper: Like wearing hats!
*blue summoning spell cast*
I was out of the office all weekend. Your spell works, but only when I'm near a PC. :P
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keeveek: EDIT: eeem... from OP post I understood that it was there and then it was removed, but from other threads about that it seems GOG never included these files.
Yes, please reserve your outrage for when we actually remove content from a release package. :P
Post edited January 28, 2013 by TheEnigmaticT
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DCT: yes but DOSbox also fixes those since you can run the game at a set speed if not then QFG4 would crash contently
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DukeNukemForever: Didn't got my hand on QfG4 so far, but scummvm is indeed for some games not the perfect choice yet and needs some fixes. To switch to dosbox is in such cases a good decision, but maybe they're still in contact with the scummvm-team to fix this and we get an update soon.

Edit: I'm too slow or your too fast for me ;-) About the rest of your posting, I believe it's a long run decision to have with scummvm an easier way to fix such games, because the scummvm-team already spent much time in fixing this oldies. For gog it's of course easier and faster to use scummvm. But, if some games are really unplayable with scummvm at the moment, they should of course use dosbox for now..
That is my point Larry 6 hi-res/SVGA is in mine and alot of others experiance quite playable and winable in DOSbox and runs as fine as any other Sierra game that used the same version of the SCI engine so I don't see why they didn't just DOSbox that version from the get go, if they honestly felt there was some performance issue then they could of just had both Larry 6 VGA with Speech running under scumm and had the SVGA version under dosbox saying "Look we tried to get this version running at a decent speed(or whatever) but for whatever reason it's a bit slow or what so we have included the lower res version running under scumm" much like Carmageddon.
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TheEnigmaticT: Yes, please reserve your outrage for when we actually remove content from a release package. :P
Ah-ha! So it's only a question of "when"! You've planned something nasty, haven't you?
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TheEnigmaticT: Yes, please reserve your outrage for when we actually remove content from a release package. :P
I'm still watching your every move, though! :P
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F4LL0UT: While I agree that the amount of people tinkering with the game files is probably comparably high among GOG users (compared to say Steam users) I think you are overestimating the technical expertise of the actual "average customer". There's millions of accounts here (I think GOG stated something about 1.4 million customers being served each month). The active forum members are more likely to care more about that kind of stuff but they pose only a fracture of all the GOG users out there.
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cogadh: Perhaps I am overestimating, but the fact is, if they did include the "broken" stuff in every release, we would have just as many posts about "feature X is broken" as we already have posts about "feature X is missing", if not many, many more (because people would be actively trying to fix the broken stuff and seeking help from the community). Even if it is only the more active forum members posting about it, there are far more non-active members and others reading about it, and that is bad press that GOG does not need. Not to mention, information about what is broken would very likely work its way into the reviews of the games, which again is bad press GOG does not need. It is safer for them to simply not include that stuff they can't get working.

However, let me be clear, I am only speaking in general here, not about this particular release. In the absence of more information from GOG themselves, it does appear that this missing content was not done for the sake of a "clean" release, but rather to either meet a deadline or out of some kind of laziness. I didn't even buy the Larry stuff and that kind of pisses me off.
I know but the thing is their policey seems to be remove files we don't use, which in the cases of Larry 6 removing the SVGA files because there not using them so "there useless" was a dumb move because it's workable and winnable in Dosbox and so when someone see that their using the graphically inferior VGA version of the game there going to go poking around and see if they can't just dosbox up the SVGA version instead not finding any files there going to wonder why there missing and so there going to post their query on the boards and people are going to see and wonder why they got the less ideal version with the better version removed completely when it was workable in Dosbox. Also removing the setup files for Ultima Underworld was silly as well since i know either have to use Pix's patcher to set the config files to use non roland MT sound or go in and change it manually which had the set up program stayed in the package I could of just booted that up and change it manually

That doesn't make them look good either, as I said I get removing broken windows versions from releases since as time goes on they become less and less workable on more and more machines but with this game that is not the case

From the DOSBox site
Game details
Leisure Suit Larry 6 - Sierra (1993)
Tested By: DesDZ

DOSBox version: 0.72 (supported)
http://www.dosbox.com/comp_list.php?showID=177&letter=L

Oh and this one of many videos on Youtube of the Hires version of this game running on Dosbox:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8yJaDtMrOw

Again not to beat a dead horse here but honestly I hate to say it but it feels like they removed it to keep people from asking "why are you guys running the lo-res VGA version and not the better SVGA one" hopefully it's not the case but honestly I really see no reason for this outside of hey slap these in scumm and we can get both mac and windows suppourted with less work and if that really was the case then that is just wrong.

But yeah my point is they really should look at that policy of just removing unused files from their releases as honestly alot of people would be less upset at the Larry release if the SVGA version was still there, yeah we would wonder why they didn't use it but we be more content as we could just slap it into dosbox ourselves.
Post edited January 28, 2013 by DCT
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TheEnigmaticT: Yes, please reserve your outrage for when we actually remove content from a release package. :P
Pfft, that hardly excuses the lack of inclusion in the first place. :P

While you're at it, please stop removing setup/configuration programs from some games. Some of us like to change those options and if you don't make a DOSBox shortcut to it only people who know what they're doing will find them anyway.
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TheEnigmaticT: Yes, please reserve your outrage for when we actually remove content from a release package. :P
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SirPrimalform: Pfft, that hardly excuses the lack of inclusion in the first place. :P

While you're at it, please stop removing setup/configuration programs from some games. Some of us like to change those options and if you don't make a DOSBox shortcut to it only people who know what they're doing will find them anyway.
I assume that there's a reason why the Product doesn't include them. Ask Judas, if you need to know the actual one. He'll know better than I. ;)
I asked for the support if they would be able to give me the files if I bought the game, but the answer wasn't encouraging:

Unfortunately we are not able to distribute this version in any possible way.

Regards,
Natalia
GOG.com Support
Great, it's Earth 2140 all over again.
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TheCycoONE: I asked for the support if they would be able to give me the files if I bought the game, but the answer wasn't encouraging:

Unfortunately we are not able to distribute this version in any possible way.

Regards,
Natalia
GOG.com Support
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TheCycoONE:
Okay first it was
""We couldn't release Hi-Res version of Leisure Suit Larry 6 due to technical difficulties." and "Unfortunately it didn't run swiftly on all of our testbeds so we had to discard that version." so they yanked them out beause they couldn't run them in Scumm properly or at least that is the most logical reason we have since we have yet to see them explain what happened and if they tried to use DOSbox and they ran into issues or if they ever bothered to test it in dosbox at all.

and now there saying "yeah were not going to give you those files sorry" I'm sorry but this is getting ridiculous barring some legal licensing reason I don't see why those files should not be put back end of story. they have been shown to run just fine under dosbox and if GOG doesn't want to bother fiddling with getting it to work under DOSbox and Boxer then fine let those of us who want to bother do it then it's not like I don't have to tweak some of their dosbox releases anyway like Police Quest 2 which runs WAY to fast since they set the cycles to max in the config.
Post edited January 28, 2013 by DCT
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grviper: Great, it's Earth 2140 all over again.
I'd point out that we included the DOS version of the game (with a more robust AI) as a goody for that title more than a year ago. :P
I think it'd be cool to put the files up as a bonus.