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If anyone has a few minutes spare, see how many times you can find DRM-Free mentioned on the GOG or CDP website. I've only found it ONCE in the about:gog.com page.
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MrZeno: If anyone has a few minutes spare, see how many times you can find DRM-Free mentioned on the GOG or CDP website. I've only found it ONCE in the about:gog.com page.
It's found on every single game page (i.e. 4000+ times), under "Why buy on GOG.COM?" (just below Languages).
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MrZeno: If anyone has a few minutes spare, see how many times you can find DRM-Free mentioned on the GOG or CDP website. I've only found it ONCE in the about:gog.com page.
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mrkgnao: It's found on every single game page (i.e. 4000+ times), under "Why buy on GOG.COM?" (just below Languages).
I should have made it clearer that I was talking about the front pages where most people would land. However, I acknowledge my stupidity and will begin recounting... :)
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skeletonbow: I dunno, but I can't help but feel very disappointed and wonder where this is all going to lead in 1/2/5 years, what this company and website will look like and stand for in 5 years.
My guess? If they continue this way - including their silent treatment policy - this website simply won't exist anymore. It has been said before: GOG has by far not as many games as other stores and I doubt they ever will. What kept most people here was the fact that GOG defended DRM-free until the very end. With this move they state that, while still only selling DRM-free on their own store, they also support DRM which makes the whole "let's keep games DRM-free and protect our freedom" move not really that believable anymore. So as soon as they'll mix DRM'd and DRM-free games (even if they only do this on Galaxy) more and more users will leave GOG. GOG completely forgot about their fan base by now and that's really sad imo.
Post edited October 13, 2020 by MarkoH01
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MarkoH01: GOG completely forgot about their fan base by now and that's really sad imo.
Yupp, really sad imho. But what can we do except regular backups for when GOG goes belly up? There are still no really viable DRM-free alternatives.
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ponczo_ just mentioned that support still is overwhelmed (it's here) and yet they support users with bought epic titles. I just can't...I don't know wether this is hilarious or pathetic.
Post edited October 13, 2020 by NuffCatnip
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NuffCatnip: ponczo_ just mentioned that support still is overwhelmed (it's here) and yet they support users with bought epic titles. I just can't...I don't know wether this is hilarious or pathetic.
yep, just noticed that myself. is very very cringe.
Post edited October 13, 2020 by fortune_p_dawg
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skeletonbow: I dunno, but I can't help but feel very disappointed and wonder where this is all going to lead in 1/2/5 years, what this company and website will look like and stand for in 5 years.
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MarkoH01: My guess? If they continue this way - including their silent treatment policy - this website simply won't exist anymore.
Yep. It's pretty hard to read the situation in any way other than that the plan is to eventually phase out the GOG store entirely and leave only Galaxy.

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NuffCatnip: ponczo_ just mentioned that support still is overwhelmed (it's here) and yet they support users with bought epic titles. I just can't...I don't know wether this is hilarious or pathetic.
Simple - the users who are buying epic games are getting with the program, so they deserve the support. The others are dead weight.
Post edited October 13, 2020 by Breja
You really cannot confuse management decisions with signs of intelligence that is for sure. The Epic deal alone sounded bad enough, but they also included support for the Epic exclusive games that are being sold on Galaxy? Support is already spread pretty damn thin, what the hell is the point of spreading themselves even thinner? I'm sure that will help the morale of the support team workers, as well as speed up support ticket response times...

It is hard to believe that GOG's management gives a fuck anymore. We are the proverbial turd in the punch bowl to them. Without proper communication things will only get worse from here on out.

This is just getting out of hand.
Post edited October 13, 2020 by EnforcerSunWoo
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Breja: Yep. It's pretty hard to read the situation in any way other than that the plan is to eventually phase out the GOG store entirely and leave only Galaxy.
Yes, that seems to be a plan. Apparently it is more lucrative to become an EPIC reseller than to continue this DRM-free gimmick.
♫ Insipid your desires.
Unbearable your guilt. ♫

https://youtu.be/2b940y_gMsg?t=103
THis is depressing. I know. I know not big deal in scheme of things but I had this one small sliver of normalcy. Now Someone has stolen my cheese. Going to take me a year to backup all the games I have with more current installers.
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MarkoH01: ...
Honestly I am not as "negative", I don't really think the idea is to obsolete the Gog website in favor or a "Galaxy store" or even, as some seems to believe, it is a sign of Gog dropping DRM-free in favor of becoming just another key reseller. I think it's just Gog being Gog as in having a potentially good idea but with a bad implementation and an equally as bad communication.

I think all of that stem from them wanting to transform Galaxy into this big "universal client" not just for Gog game but for PC gaming platform and even console ones. In itself it's not a bad idea, multiple tentative have been done with limited level of success, but having somebody like CDPR behind it could definitely give it more traction.

But that's where Gog first mistake is IMHO, it's a good idea, but before you want to become an universal client maybe first try to be a fully featured client for your own store. While Galaxy is usable it's still rough around the edges, missing features that either the downloader or even the previous version of Galaxy had. Added to that, issues with offline installers being out of sync which, while IMHO being overblown, still exists from time to time and it contribute to peoples having the impression that Gog is wasting their resources.


Then apparently, on top of being the universal client for installing / launching game they apparently decided to also be some sort of store agnostic platform for purchasing games. I can see why they are doing it they want to show "gamers" that they don't try "lock" peoples onto a specific platform with Galaxy, that unlike Steam client, Epic client or others store clients with Galaxy you can chose which is your preferred store and purchase from it. Why not, it's still pretty funny that they chose Epic, mister "exclusive", as the first partner to display this feature but I guess Steam probably didn't give a damn about such a feature while Epic on the other side probably wanted to improve their image.

But again, IMHO, they screwed, again, the implementation, allowing other store on Galaxy is one thing, giving competitor some documented API that they can use to add their store to Galaxy is one thing, but handling the purchase yourself, with your return condition, curating the games available, and even handling support... I can see their reasoning, even if your purchase on another store through Galaxy you still have the same "guarantee" than you have while purchasing on Gog, that's nice, but not a good idea because... well this thread is part of the answer of why it's not a good idea... it muddle the water it makes you look like some standard key reseller (which I still don't think was their objective), I don't even think their main objective is really for it to be "profitable", more that they thought it was a good way to "promote" Galaxy.

So tl;dr I don't think it's some sort of apocalypse end of the world scenario where Gog will tomorrow stop selling DRM-Free game or become a second Humble Store selling mainly Steam/Epic keys and that you need to backup everything before they start putting Denuvo on Fallout 1 (it is still a good idea to have backup as a general rule though). I think it's was just a way they found to try to promote Galaxy as some sort of universal, store agnostic, client. But like always the implementation is not that great, the communication not really better, it blow up in their face and they don't really know how to disarm it (hence the silence treatment), not to mention that this time they probably have contract with Epic so it's not like they can pull back as easily as they did before.
Post edited October 13, 2020 by Gersen
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MarkoH01: ...
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Gersen:
Your last point speaks volumes. Lack of communication breeds room for anger, backlash and at the very worst, conspiracy.

It's like leaving a wound to fester, the longer it's left, the worse it gets. Posting gifs and emojis isn't the start and end of working with communities, you have to get in the trenches. Or least show your users the respect of dialogue.
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MarkoH01: ...
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Gersen: Honestly I am not as "negative", I don't really think the idea is to obsolete the Gog website in favor or a "Galaxy store" or even, as some seems to believe, it is a sign of Gog dropping DRM-free in favor of becoming just another key reseller. I think it's just Gog being Gog as in having a potentially good idea but with a bad implementation and an equally as bad communication.

I think all of that stem from them wanting to transform Galaxy into this big "universal client" not just for Gog game but for PC gaming platform and even console ones. In itself it's not a bad idea, multiple tentative have been done with limited level of success, but having somebody like CDPR behind it could definitely give it more traction.

But that's where Gog first mistake is IMHO, it's a good idea, but before you want to become an universal client maybe first try to be a fully featured client for your own store. While Galaxy is usable it's still rough around the edges, missing features that either the downloader or even the previous version of Galaxy had. Added to that, issues with offline installers being out of sync which, while IMHO being overblown, still exists from time to time and it contribute to peoples having the impression that Gog is wasting their resources.

Then apparently, on top of being the universal client for installing / launching game they apparently decided to also be some sort of store agnostic platform for purchasing games. I can see why they are doing it they want to show "gamers" that they don't try "lock" peoples onto a specific platform with Galaxy, that unlike Steam client, Epic client or others store clients with Galaxy you can chose which is your preferred store and purchase from it. Why not, it's still pretty funny that they chose Epic, mister "exclusive", as the first partner to display this feature but I guess Steam probably didn't give a damn about such a feature while Epic on the other side probably wanted to improve their image.

But again, IMHO, they screwed, again, the implementation, allowing other store on Galaxy is one thing, giving competitor some documented API that they can use to add their store to Galaxy is one thing, but handling the purchase yourself, with your return condition, curating the games available, and even handling support... I can see their reasoning, even if your purchase on another store through Galaxy you still have the same "guarantee" than you have while purchasing on Gog, that's nice, but not a good idea because... well this thread is part of the answer of why it's not a good idea... it muddle the water it makes you look like some standard key reseller (which I still don't think was their objective), I don't even think their main objective is really for it to be "profitable", more that they thought it was a good way to "promote" Galaxy.

So tl;dr I don't think it's some sort of apocalypse end of the world scenario where Gog will tomorrow stop selling DRM-Free game or become a second Humble Store selling mainly Steam/Epic keys and that you need to backup everything before they start putting Denuvo on Fallout 1 (it is still a good idea to have backup as a general rule though). I think it's was just a way they found to try to promote Galaxy as some sort of universal, store agnostic, client. But like always the implementation is not that great, the communication not really better, it blow up in their face and they don't really know how to disarm it (hence the silence treatment), not to mention that this time they probably have contract with Epic so it's not like they can pull back as easily as they did before.
this expresses much how i feel. thank you for typing it out. i lazy. :)