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Hi GOG'ers..

My desktop has been acting really crappy lately..
Lots of different problems, so i suspect i might have to buy a new one..

I've found a site that let's me customize a build, and i'm just sitting here second guessing alot of things, since it's been a LONG LONG time since i was up to date on hardware knowledge.

What i've chosen so far looks like this:

CPU: Intel Core i5 3550
MBO: MSI B75MA-P45
RAM: Crucial DDR3 1333MHz 8GB KIT, CL9 Kit w/two matched DDR3 4GB, 240pin
GFX: ASUS Radeon HD 7750 1GB GDDR5 V2 PCI-Express 3.0
HDD: Western Digital® Desktop Blue 500GB SATA 6Gb/s (SATA 3.0), 16MB, 7200RPM
PSU: Silver Power SP-S650M 650W PSU ATX 12V V2.3
CHASSIS: Cooler Master Elite 430 Midi Tower Black

Now i'm not even sure these parts fit 100% together, if anyone spots anything, please let me know :)


And now here's a few of my MAIN concerns/questions that i hope you will/can answer:

1. Would it be neccesary to upgrade to the 7750 or i should just keep my existing 5850? - i'm really not sure if it's worth it at the moment, or if i should wait with the GFX upgrade?

2. I have no idea what the MBO listed can or supports, it was just the default one on the "customization" page, can someone let me know if i'm good there?

3. The HDD, is it good enough?, i have no idea if 16mb cache is good or bad, do i need a 64mb cache? - also, is it crucial these days to have an extra SSD HDD for the OS or?

4. Last thing is just if the Chassis/PSU seems good enough/decent?


Any comments or answer to my 4 main concerns are appreciated :)


This is the site i'm customizing it on:
http://www.komplett.dk/k/config.aspx?ConfigSystemId=10664#pch|10851

Keep in mind that these prices are danish kroner (1 USD = 5,9 DKK), and they might seem very expensive from what you're used to, but that's just the price level in Denmark!

And i don't have alot of money, so i need to keep the cost at MAX: 5500 DKK (927 USD), but preferably lower :P

Thanks in advance!
I have no idea about GFX, but I would upgrade anyway.

Don't buy MSI motherboard. Just...don't. Too many people around me have bad experiences with MSI.

500GB is bit to small these days. Consider 1TB+. I don't really find SSD necessary, but it does improve performance.

Taken into account that i have bottom of the budget lineup chassis, and it does decent job of...keeping my parts together :D, I'd say anything will do. The one you want looks nice too.
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darknath: snip
It all seems pretty good, though I would definitely stick with the 5850. In everything except power consumption it wouldn't be an upgrade for the 7750. MB is basic, but serviceable. It's not gonna be expandable as far as add-in cards. It only has one PCI-E 16x and one 1x slot, along with an old school PCI slot (I guess they just figure no one uses the slot next to the graphics card anyway). 4 dimm slots, though, so upgradable to 32GB. PSU seems like it should be good: though I don't have any experience with the brand, reviews I've found are favourable.

Only thing I would question would be the HD. 1.5-2 TB is the sweet spot these days. You usually end up paying $10-20 less for a 500GB than you would for a 1TB. 2TB are usually half-again the price of the 1TB, so an even better deal. I'd say go for at least 1TB. Also, who has only 16MB cache these days? 32 and 64 should be standard.
Post edited August 23, 2012 by Tallin
I have a HD5700 (seems similar to you card) myself and never had to decease graphicssettings even in games like skyrim with HD update and graphics mods. So I would guess your HD5850 would still be good for a while as well.
Changing a graphicscard is really easy, so you can always switch it later yourself.

For the SSD I agree with IronStar it's nice to have it but not necessary at all.

For the HDD it depends on what you use your computer for, if you download a lot of videofiles its a little small. For the regular programs and a decent amount of games it should do.
You can also upgrade it later by getting another harddrive, also easy to install.

Also I would not save too much money on motherboard and cpu they set the boundaries for your system and are not as easy to replace later as the rest. Can't say anything to your MBO, don't know it. For the CPU I got a i7 2600 sandybridge and have been very happy with it ever since I got it.

Hope I could help you a little.
I have a MSI board and it works just fine.

here is the guide line I use:

start with the CPU you want, then pick out the GFX card you want.
after that pick out the motherboard that fists the combination of the two (usually you want to pair up Nvidia cards with Motherboards that support SLI / AMD cards with motherboards that support Crossfire) and make extra sure that the motherboard you pick uses the same socket type as the CPU you picked out.

after that you should pick out a power supply based on the requirements of your CPU and GFX card (also pay attention to the power supply pin type, few boards and power supplys still use the 20pin connection but it's good to make sure)

after that pick out the memory that you want, based on the memory type listed for the motherboard.

after that everything else is just fluf that should work with any configuration of parts.
Thanks for the answers guys..

Now i don't need more than 500GB, i only almost fill my current 250GB...

And right at the moment i'm really pissed at my 5850 xD - all systems i can find in my price range only either have a 7750 or a GTX560Ti - which i understand aren't much of a step up.
DAMN YOU 5850 for being so damn good!

I even tried removing the GFX card from the customization table, and that will cost about the same as a system with a GTX560Ti... meh!


I know i can do this much cheaper by assembling this myself (i've built like 7-8 systems before in the past).. but i don't know.. i just don't have confidence in my abilities to assemble systems anymore..

I would seriously just hate myself if i messed something up :/
Post edited August 23, 2012 by darknath
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darknath: I know i can do this much cheaper by assembling this myself (i've built like 7-8 systems before in the past).. but i don't know.. i just don't have confidence in my abilities to assemble systems anymore..

I would seriously just hate myself if i messed something up :/
You could ask in computerstore around where you live if they would assemble it for you. Not sure if it would be cheaper, but might be worth checking through.
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darknath: I know i can do this much cheaper by assembling this myself (i've built like 7-8 systems before in the past).. but i don't know.. i just don't have confidence in my abilities to assemble systems anymore..

I would seriously just hate myself if i messed something up :/
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K_1269: You could ask in computerstore around where you live if they would assemble it for you. Not sure if it would be cheaper, but might be worth checking through.
Yeah could do that..

It's worth a try, since if i get all new parts, but keep my current PSU and my HD5850 then i'll save 385$ from buying the entire new system..

Hopefully they won't charge too much for it :P
Post edited August 23, 2012 by darknath
Good luck, hope it works out for you:)
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darknath: 1. Would it be neccesary to upgrade to the 7750 or i should just keep my existing 5850? - i'm really not sure if it's worth it at the moment, or if i should wait with the GFX upgrade?
The 7750 appears to be less powerful than the 5850.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/614?vs=512
Do NOT, i repeat, do NOT switch your current HD5850 for a HD7750. The HD7750 has a LOWER performance than the HD5850, as you can see in reviews such as this one:
http://www.guru3d.com/article/amd-radeon-hd-7750-and-7770-review/17

The GTX 560Ti that you mentioned would be a much better option, but it's just slightly better than your HD5850. You probably wouldn't even notice the difference. I think you should keep your current GPU, unless you are not happy with your framerates in recent games.

I would also go for a bigger 1-2 TB HD, since the price difference between this one and a 500GB HD is just too small. I would avoid HDs from Samsung if i were you, i had terrible experiences with these. Either a Seagate or Western Digital HD should be fine.
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Neobr10: Do NOT, i repeat, do NOT switch your current HD5850 for a HD7750. The HD7750 has a LOWER performance than the HD5850, as you can see in reviews such as this one:
http://www.guru3d.com/article/amd-radeon-hd-7750-and-7770-review/17

The GTX 560Ti that you mentioned would be a much better option, but it's just slightly better than your HD5850. You probably wouldn't even notice the difference. I think you should keep your current GPU, unless you are not happy with your framerates in recent games.

I would also go for a bigger 1-2 TB HD, since the price difference between this one and a 500GB HD is just too small. I would avoid HDs from Samsung if i were you, i had terrible experiences with these. Either a Seagate or Western Digital HD should be fine.
You're right about that. I can't believe how different they are. The texture fill rate on the 7750 is around half the amount of the older 5850!

http://www.gpureview.com/show_cards.php?card1=614&card2=676
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Snickersnack: The 7750 appears to be less powerful than the 5850.
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/614?vs=512
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Neobr10: Do NOT, i repeat, do NOT switch your current HD5850 for a HD7750. The HD7750 has a LOWER performance than the HD5850.... I think you should keep your current GPU, unless you are not happy with your framerates in recent games...
Wow yeah, can't believe how "good" the 5850 was for it's time really..

@ Neobr10 - i actually i am not happy with the framerate in my games.. but i suspect it isn't my HD5850 that's causing it, since i am having troubles even browsing the web at times..

I want a rig where i can run beefy settings for Dishonored, Borderlands 2 and BioShock: Infinite.. and i was unsure whether the 5850 could pull that off.. but it appears it won't do me any better to "upgrade" to a 7750.. meh..
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darknath: Wow yeah, can't believe how "good" the 5850 was for it's time really..
Well, the 5850 was a high-end card, while the 7750 is just the higher end mid-range. The 77x0s, for instance, still have a 128-bit memory bus, as compared to the 256-bit bus on the 800 and 900 range cards...
Post edited August 24, 2012 by Tallin
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Neobr10: I would avoid HDs from Samsung if i were you, i had terrible experiences with these.
Well, Samsung HD division was bought out by Seagate, and I haven't seen any new Samsung HDs with SATA III, only SSDs. It's really just WD and Seagate, as Hitachi is owned by WD (though still operating as separate companies). Toshiba's really the only other manufacturer, with about half the share as the other two...