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Elmofongo: I just question whether the Final Fantasy VII remake is even gonna be FAITHFUL remake.

Are they going to keep almost every single aspect of the game? We all know they are gonna forsake turned based random encounter combat to probably some form of Kingdom Hearts style combat.
It's being directed by Tetsuya Nomura. Chances are there's going to be a lot of changes (and they stated they're going to incorporate certain story aspects from the other FF7 games/media), but then again that's assuming it's ever going to get finished.

Frankly I'm way more interested in the other stuff they have planned/announced than this unnecessary remake.

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rtcvb32: The only surprise is they are hinting something about FF7, but i didn't see anything confirming it
It was confirmed over Sony's E3 conference. Trailer Thingy
Post edited June 21, 2015 by RayRay13000
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groze: [..]I never really got into the whole Final Fantasy stuff, because I'm an 80s kid and I never really had the patience[..]
Since when that's a thing? That's your own experience, not a standard for 80' kids O_o.
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groze: [..]This post is to say that when Square (Enix) acquired Eidos, they might as well have stuck with the Eidos label[..]But if they had stuck with the Eidos brand, now, that would have been a different story[..] I think they might as well have stuck with the Eidos branding[..]
Why do you fixate so much on the branding? It wouldn't have changed anything..
Also, why whould Square have ever abandoned their own established name, after an acquisition?
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groze: [..]The best things Square announced during this latest E3 were Eidos/Western developed titles [..]
Barely anyone cares for Final Fantasy and traditional JRPGs anymore[..]
when Final Fantasy VII comes out no one will like it[..].
The plague of remakes is affecting the entire industry, not just SquareEnix. They're just milking what they have.
I agree that japanese RPGs should really improve nowadays, but saying that the entire genre is dead seems quite an exaggeration.
I'm not a big fan of such rehashes, but many people are already drooling for FF7.
Post edited June 21, 2015 by phaolo
The original poster can delude him/herself all he wants, but regardless of the final quality of the finished product the Final Fantasy VII remake will sell a metric fuckton of copies. A new Legacy of Kain would maybe sell well, but it isn't a guarantee. Even the poor Final Fantasy XIII managed some 5+ million copies sold in its first year worldwide. Of course that dropped precipitously by the second unwanted sequel Lightning Returns, but in contrast many people have been clamoring for a true Final Fantasy VII remake for YEARS. Will everyone be happy with it? Of course not, but many will buy it sight-unseen regardless.

Of course, that's all just my humble opinion. ;)

And yeah, I will buy it and hope for the best because the original game holds a special place in my heart. On, and I grew up in the 80s. Does that mean I have to give back my 80s kid membership card?
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Elmofongo: I just question whether the Final Fantasy VII remake is even gonna be FAITHFUL remake.

Are they going to keep almost every single aspect of the game? We all know they are gonna forsake turned based random encounter combat to probably some form of Kingdom Hearts style combat.
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RayRay13000: It's being directed by Tetsuya Nomura. Chances are there's going to be a lot of changes (and they stated they're going to incorporate certain story aspects from the other FF7 games/media), but then again that's assuming it's ever going to get finished.

Frankly I'm way more interested in the other stuff they have planned/announced than this unnecessary remake.

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rtcvb32: The only surprise is they are hinting something about FF7, but i didn't see anything confirming it
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RayRay13000: It was confirmed over Sony's E3 conference. Trailer Thingy
All I want is an HD remaster of FF XII like they did with X.
I feel parts of what OP is trying to say, because even Japanese developers will admit that Japanese developers are in a rut. They make badly overdesigned characters that have no real character. They make large grandiose set pieces, but only let you explore narrow corridors in them. The storylines they put out are a mishmash hodgepodge of frankly confusing plot devices that never manage to tie together well, and they're stuck making moe animu waifus for frankly, one of the worst audiences in terms of trying new things. (Weebs.)

Now, before someone gets mad at me for tossing weeaboo around, let me preface this a bit, by saying that there IS a difference between an anime fan and a weeaboo, but weebs tend to be dominating that part of the market, so devs seem to be pandering more to that demographic. My opinion on FF isn't going to be popular, as I feel that there hasn't been a good one since Tactics. I hated 8, 9, every iteration of X you can think of. In the mean time, Square has all kinds of properties that haven't been touched on in a long time. (Most Enix properties, like Front Mission. No, I don't count that lame attempt at making an action game out of it either.)

They haven't been making very immersive worlds or games and Japanese developers know this, which is why they've been forthcoming about how much Western open world games have been blowing their minds. (Skyrim, GTA, etc)
Capcom even made a fairly good attempt with Dragon's Dogma, but repeat success seems evasive. I think it's all a shame, as during the 16 and 32 bit eras, I predominantly played JRPG on console, and western on PC. I'd like for Japan to rebound and start giving us wellmade and well crafted stories again.
I had written a huge post explaining a lot of things people apparently have been misinterpreting from my original post, but GOG didn't publish it, so let me just say that I don't hate Japanese developed games -- in fact, I grew up playing them on console, mostly NES and SNES -- and I don't think for a second that the JRPG genre is dead.

All I meant to say was that, right now, with way too many Final Fantasy titles to count under production, this FFVII announcement sounds like nothing more than a desperate attempt at rekindling the love for the series, as fans have been demanding a remake of that title for years, and Squeenix knows they want it.

I *never* think a genre is dead: it has been said so many times about so many genres and they always seem to make a comeback, usually in full-force, some time later. *But* there has to be a break, and we aren't having a break from 'pure' JRPGs, which tends to saturate the market and, ultimately, the players themselves.

As for the comparison between the Final Fantasy and Legacy of Kain fanbases, don't get me wrong: there's a *HUGE* difference in numbers, but what I was trying to say was that a title in the LoK franchise -- a proper one, mind you -- might have felt fresher and been better for Squeenix than yet another Final Fantasy game. I say the same of pretty much all studios that invest in annual releases of certain franchises, it's not hate towards Square Enix. To be honest, I believe companies like Ubisoft, for instance, should put the Assassin's Creed franchise on hold for a few years and create a new franchise altogether or, at least, bring back some of their older ones that no one has played in years. This is all I meant to say, not that I hate Japanese developed games, or that I firmly believe the JRPG format is dead and everyone should believe so as well, because "I say so".

As for the downrepping of posts just because you disagree with what's being said, well, let's just say it saddens me to see what has become of the GOG forum community in a short span of two years since I joined.
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LiquidOxygen80: I feel parts of what OP is trying to say, because even Japanese developers will admit that Japanese developers are in a rut. They make badly overdesigned characters that have no real character. They make large grandiose set pieces, but only let you explore narrow corridors in them. The storylines they put out are a mishmash hodgepodge of frankly confusing plot devices that never manage to tie together well, and they're stuck making moe animu waifus for frankly, one of the worst audiences in terms of trying new things. (Weebs.)

Now, before someone gets mad at me for tossing weeaboo around, let me preface this a bit, by saying that there IS a difference between an anime fan and a weeaboo, but weebs tend to be dominating that part of the market, so devs seem to be pandering more to that demographic. My opinion on FF isn't going to be popular, as I feel that there hasn't been a good one since Tactics. I hated 8, 9, every iteration of X you can think of. In the mean time, Square has all kinds of properties that haven't been touched on in a long time. (Most Enix properties, like Front Mission. No, I don't count that lame attempt at making an action game out of it either.)

They haven't been making very immersive worlds or games and Japanese developers know this, which is why they've been forthcoming about how much Western open world games have been blowing their minds. (Skyrim, GTA, etc)
Capcom even made a fairly good attempt with Dragon's Dogma, but repeat success seems evasive. I think it's all a shame, as during the 16 and 32 bit eras, I predominantly played JRPG on console, and western on PC. I'd like for Japan to rebound and start giving us wellmade and well crafted stories again.
I can certainly understand a JRPG purist not caring much for FF 8 and X and onward, but 9? That's hard to imagine, as it is the last great traditional JRPG Final Fantasy they ever made.
Much as I adore Final Fantasy XII for its world and combat system (not so much the story) it was not a very good JRPG. More like a JRPG trying to be a Western RPG.
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LiquidOxygen80: I feel parts of what OP is trying to say, because even Japanese developers will admit that Japanese developers are in a rut. They make badly overdesigned characters that have no real character. They make large grandiose set pieces, but only let you explore narrow corridors in them. The storylines they put out are a mishmash hodgepodge of frankly confusing plot devices that never manage to tie together well, and they're stuck making moe animu waifus for frankly, one of the worst audiences in terms of trying new things. (Weebs.)

Now, before someone gets mad at me for tossing weeaboo around, let me preface this a bit, by saying that there IS a difference between an anime fan and a weeaboo, but weebs tend to be dominating that part of the market, so devs seem to be pandering more to that demographic. My opinion on FF isn't going to be popular, as I feel that there hasn't been a good one since Tactics. I hated 8, 9, every iteration of X you can think of. In the mean time, Square has all kinds of properties that haven't been touched on in a long time. (Most Enix properties, like Front Mission. No, I don't count that lame attempt at making an action game out of it either.)

They haven't been making very immersive worlds or games and Japanese developers know this, which is why they've been forthcoming about how much Western open world games have been blowing their minds. (Skyrim, GTA, etc)
Capcom even made a fairly good attempt with Dragon's Dogma, but repeat success seems evasive. I think it's all a shame, as during the 16 and 32 bit eras, I predominantly played JRPG on console, and western on PC. I'd like for Japan to rebound and start giving us wellmade and well crafted stories again.
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marsrunner: I can certainly understand a JRPG purist not caring much for FF 8 and X and onward, but 9? That's hard to imagine, as it is the last great traditional JRPG Final Fantasy they ever made.
Much as I adore Final Fantasy XII for its world and combat system (not so much the story) it was not a very good JRPG. More like a JRPG trying to be a Western RPG.
I don't know man. Maybe I just didn't give it a proper chance, because I was so turned off by 8, that I couldn't properly engage with 9, and maybe I should go fire it up and give it another go.
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Elmofongo: All I want is an HD remaster of FF XII like they did with X.
Emulate it at a higher resolution? I'm not sure what to tell you. Chances are they might release the updated version (International Zodiac Edition) on next gen consoles, but since they're putting their resources on other projects that seems pretty unlikely.

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groze: This FFVII announcement sounds like nothing more than a desperate attempt at rekindling the love for the series.
To be honest it didn't come across that way when they revealed it. It seems more like they got tired of the fanbase (or what's left of it after FFXIII, which I didn't think was that terrible all things considered) asking for one and decided to just start making one just to keep them quiet. When really just re-releasing it on other platforms with slight tune-ups seemed more rational.

I'm mean, good for the fans that asked for it, but with a lot of the original members of the FF team no longer at (or doing anything major) at Square Enix, it seems very unlikely it'll live up to any sort of expectations the fans have.

As far as the original and this post goes, I kind of did assume the whole "I hate Japanese games" vibe people pointed out at the beginning, but I just shrugged it off and said "meh" all together when re-reading it. I mean, there are both Japanese and western projects I'm interested in (JRPGs and or otherwise), but even then I still get where you're coming from with the whole JRPG thing getting old.

Also, what downvoting? The only mention that I've seen was that one post on the first page, other than that most people didn't really seem bothered by your original post.
Post edited June 22, 2015 by RayRay13000
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marsrunner: I can certainly understand a JRPG purist not caring much for FF 8 and X and onward, but 9? That's hard to imagine, as it is the last great traditional JRPG Final Fantasy they ever made.
Much as I adore Final Fantasy XII for its world and combat system (not so much the story) it was not a very good JRPG. More like a JRPG trying to be a Western RPG.
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LiquidOxygen80: I don't know man. Maybe I just didn't give it a proper chance, because I was so turned off by 8, that I couldn't properly engage with 9, and maybe I should go fire it up and give it another go.
On, I can understand that. I really enjoyed some things about 8 (the world, the music, the story & characters) but the Guardian Force animations got so OLD after a while, and grinding for hours to draw magic was not fun. On the other hand the card game was quite fun. I would fire 9 up again. The characters are so much fun, no silent or sullen protagonist, even though Zidane had more reason to be than Squall or Cloud. Steiner is funny and Vivi was so touching. Great story, fun gameplay and lots of non-linear sidequests. Plus, four party members in battle again. Yay!
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groze: All I meant to say was that, right now, with way too many Final Fantasy titles to count under production, this FFVII announcement sounds like nothing more than a desperate attempt at rekindling the love for the series, as fans have been demanding a remake of that title for years, and Squeenix knows they want it.
too many?
- FF 15
- FF VII remake
- some Final Fantasy Arcade thing
what am I missing?

and looking at the reactions to the FF7 remake announcement it is kind of weird to claim there was some "rekindling of love" needed.
I can't say that I am personally too hype for a FF7 remake, I can see why many are since FF7 was that game for a generation of gamers. Personally if they officially announced a FF6 remake and showed it off by having a video of Sabin suplexing the Phantom Train in glorious 1080p then I personally would be hyped.
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immi101: too many?
- FF 15
- FF VII remake
- some Final Fantasy Arcade thing
what am I missing?
There's also something titled "Final Fantasy Worlds" and some sort of mobile FF in the makes, as well. I don't know about you, but to me all these titles under production sound like too many indeed.

Also, there's no need to get all confrontational, I don't understand what it is about people on the internet wanting so bad not exactly to be right, but to prove others they are wrong. Have your cookie, man, if you honestly think three simultaneous Final Fantasy games aren't too many, that's your prerogative and I respect your opinion. To me, even if there were only three titles being developed, that would have been two too many.
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LiquidOxygen80: Now, before someone gets mad at me for tossing weeaboo around, let me preface this a bit, by saying that there IS a difference between an anime fan and a weeaboo
Please, explain to me (without a weblink, and in your own words), what the crapping-wanksplatter a "weeaboo" is...

Edit: never heard / seen the term before - so your post makes NO sense!
Post edited June 22, 2015 by Sachys