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Pangaea666: Everything else, roughly speaking, is worse.
We don't actually know since they've admitted they deactivated almost all the conversation options in the demo >.>
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Pangaea666: Everything else, roughly speaking, is worse.
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wodmarach: We don't actually know since they've admitted they deactivated almost all the conversation options in the demo >.>
Don't try to reason with him. He already decided the game sucks so let's just ignore him and maybe he'll leave it at that.
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wodmarach: We don't actually know since they've admitted they deactivated almost all the conversation options in the demo >.>
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OmegaX: Don't try to reason with him. He already decided the game sucks so let's just ignore him and maybe he'll leave it at that.
I know that feeling. I had one of those "PC elitists" who insulted my family (something you wouldn't do in my face) and my intelligence because I liked something with Bethesda's name on it.
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wodmarach: We don't actually know since they've admitted they deactivated almost all the conversation options in the demo >.>
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OmegaX: Don't try to reason with him. He already decided the game sucks so let's just ignore him and maybe he'll leave it at that.
Or, maybe, he found the overall writing poor like I did - you can have thousands of dialogue options and they will be no good when their quality is not really that good.

I know that feeling. I had one of those "PC elitists" who insulted my family (something you wouldn't do in my face) and my intelligence because I liked something with Bethesda's name on it.
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Tiefood: I'm a PC elitist and Skyrim is my favorite game of 2011.
That was back in 2008, right after Fallout 3 came out. But I appreciate the feeling.
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wodmarach: We don't actually know since they've admitted they deactivated almost all the conversation options in the demo >.>
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OmegaX: Don't try to reason with him. He already decided the game sucks so let's just ignore him and maybe he'll leave it at that.
Ah, so because I disagree with you, I am the PC elitist? Right. Fetch a mirror, mate.

I'm sure ME3 will be a good TPS as that is what BioWare is going for these days; unfortunately that's not the type of game I am interested so therefore I will not buy this one. Splendid if others like ME3 and give money to BioWare, but I won't.
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OmegaX: Don't try to reason with him. He already decided the game sucks so let's just ignore him and maybe he'll leave it at that.
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Pangaea666: Ah, so because I disagree with you, I am the PC elitist? Right. Fetch a mirror, mate.

I'm sure ME3 will be a good TPS as that is what BioWare is going for these days; unfortunately that's not the type of game I am interested so therefore I will not buy this one. Splendid if others like ME3 and give money to BioWare, but I won't.
It's already been explained that the demo doesn't reflect all the choices that'll be in the game so raging over it accomplishes nothing. I didn't call you a PC elitist if anything I called you a pessimist.
Post edited February 16, 2012 by OmegaX
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Pangaea666: The feedback I've seen here seem to conform with what I've see elsewhere, including on BSN.

Combat is better.

Everything else, roughly speaking, is worse.

What does that tell you about BioWare's priorities these days?

Since I have no plans to buy the game any more I checked out the leaked script. No surprises there. Not really.

BioWare have lost it.
Got a link for that?. I remember is was leaked a while back.Think im just more interested in how the story turns out now rather than the game.
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POLE7645: I know that feeling. I had one of those "PC elitists" who insulted my family (something you wouldn't do in my face) and my intelligence because I liked something with Bethesda's name on it.
Dude, whoa. Whoa. An internet stranger said something like "LOL ur dumb and ur momma so fat" back in 2008 and not only you still remember it, but use terms like "insulted my family" to describe it? I think you'd benefit from taking things less seriously, man.

Back to topic - sometimes I envy that doggedly persistent optimism of people who desperately cling to details like "the demo doesn't reflect all the choices that'll be in the game" against all evidence. At least until the game is pushed out and their hopes are all crushed because marketing is a lie and grumpy pessimist me is all, "Well, whaddayathink, this game isn't as terrible as I expected it to be. Good."
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POLE7645: I know that feeling. I had one of those "PC elitists" who insulted my family (something you wouldn't do in my face) and my intelligence because I liked something with Bethesda's name on it.
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krakadyla: Dude, whoa. Whoa. An internet stranger said something like "LOL ur dumb and ur momma so fat" back in 2008 and not only you still remember it, but use terms like "insulted my family" to describe it? I think you'd benefit from taking things less seriously, man.

Back to topic - sometimes I envy that doggedly persistent optimism of people who desperately cling to details like "the demo doesn't reflect all the choices that'll be in the game" against all evidence. At least until the game is pushed out and their hopes are all crushed because marketing is a lie and grumpy pessimist me is all, "Well, whaddayathink, this game isn't as terrible as I expected it to be. Good."
If I had this attitude, I would've never played Deus Ex. When I first heard of it I thought "Yet another gory FPS. Don't we have enough of them already?"

Beside, expecting something good is more productive than being grumpy all the time.

P.S. Before I forgot, that insulting post was VERY long and detailed (think people who wants to pass off smarter than they are).
Post edited February 17, 2012 by POLE7645
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krakadyla: Back to topic - sometimes I envy that doggedly persistent optimism of people who desperately cling to details like "the demo doesn't reflect all the choices that'll be in the game" against all evidence. At least until the game is pushed out and their hopes are all crushed because marketing is a lie and grumpy pessimist me is all, "Well, whaddayathink, this game isn't as terrible as I expected it to be. Good."
Like I said, if you already decided that the game will be bad then there is nothing to debate and you'll probably won't like it even if it isn't as bad as you think it'll be. Then again, it seems that most people that are expecting ME3 to be bad didn't like ME2. I liked ME2 a lot so if ME3 is nearly as good I'll be happy. If it has a little of ME1 I'll be happy too so I don't need to cling to anything really.
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POLE7645: If I had this attitude, I would've never played Deus Ex. When I first heard of it I thought "Yet another gory FPS. Don't we have enough of them already?"
Did Deus Ex have marketing campaign as ludicrous as all of Bioware's since EA takeover? It always had and still has an incredibly positive word of mouth, and following advice of this one is not the same as falling prey to a professional campaign.
On a side note the MP is actually pretty fun. Played it for a couple hours last night and when you have a solid team it's quite fun. When you have a crappy team it sucks, but that goes for any MP/coop game.

I don't like that MP is sounding more and more necessary to get the ending you want, but if it's just there for some extra fun that's fine by me.
My opinion? demo sucked. Loved first hated second, hate this. shame
The single player mode is too small to have an opinion at least for me, and the MP is fantastic, I really enjoyed it. I'm playing it as Adept, lots of fun.