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keeveek: No. Indoctrination theory was just stupid. Classic example of misinterpretation / overinterpretation.

I am so glad that EA didn't go that path.
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SimonG: Because the Starchild was so much better ?
Ending from Lord of the rings was better too. Maybe they should put Frodo in ME3 end?

Your argument is invalid.
The thing I'm concerned about is my military rating is now that I haven't been playing multiplayer. I had to use the multiplier that was applied to get myself up to the necessary rating for the "best" ending. I wonder if I have to do that again....
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Gersen: Honestly knowing Bioware I fully expect the "extended" endings will be as crappy as the original but with some added BS to try to address the plot holes / complaints of the original. Something like ...


SPOILER OF THE ORIGINAL ENDING



Peoples complained that all alien species will end up stuck in SOL system with no possibility to return to their planet.... easy... thanks to a dead reaper body they discover a magical prototype FTL drive that allows galaxy wide travels.

Peoples complained about EDI and the Geth dying in the red explosion ending... easy... remove the phrase where kidgod say the red explosion will kill them too.

Peoples complained about the companions appearing inside the Normandy or the Normandy fleeing... easy again... add a scene where Sheppard order its companion and the Normandy to leave.

etc...etc...
Yup, that is what I'm afraid of too.
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csmith: The thing I'm concerned about is my military rating is now that I haven't been playing multiplayer. I had to use the multiplier that was applied to get myself up to the necessary rating for the "best" ending. I wonder if I have to do that again....
Or you'll just check youtube 5 minutes after DLC gets released? ;p
Peoples complained that all alien species will end up stuck in SOL system with no possibility to return to their planet.... easy... thanks to a dead reaper body they discover a magical prototype FTL drive that allows galaxy wide travels.
omg how many times ... it's total bullshit. Even normady could travel from system to system on FUEL. To travel between NEBULAS you had to use mass relays.

In Orion's Nebula , where solar system is located there are BILLIONS of stars , and each fucking one of them may have planets around it.

LEARN COSMOS GUYS.
Post edited June 26, 2012 by keeveek
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Gersen:
If they do that I'm joining the crusade.
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csmith: The thing I'm concerned about is my military rating is now that I haven't been playing multiplayer. I had to use the multiplier that was applied to get myself up to the necessary rating for the "best" ending. I wonder if I have to do that again....
Apparently they lowered the minimum EMS required for the "best" ending from 3500 to 3100 so most people should be able to get it.
I haven't been able to play yet because I'm at work but from what I've been reading on BSN they retconned to hell and back like I said they would. (Catalyst is still in though)
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AndyBuzz: I really don't understand how the indoc theory got so popular.
The power of denial, A lot of fans refused to accept that Bioware writers could be so totally incompetent and instead considered that if the endings were as lame as they were it must be because they has some "hidden" and clever reasons.

Personally I always thought the e-theory was way too clever for Bioware to have thought of it on their own.
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csmith: The thing I'm concerned about is my military rating is now that I haven't been playing multiplayer. I had to use the multiplier that was applied to get myself up to the necessary rating for the "best" ending. I wonder if I have to do that again....
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keeveek: Or you'll just check youtube 5 minutes after DLC gets released? ;p
Peoples complained that all alien species will end up stuck in SOL system with no possibility to return to their planet.... easy... thanks to a dead reaper body they discover a magical prototype FTL drive that allows galaxy wide travels.
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keeveek: omg how many times ... it's total bullshit. Even normady could travel from system to system on FUEL. To travel between NEBULAS you had to use mass relays.

In Orion's Nebula , where solar system is located there are BILLIONS of stars , and each fucking one of them may have planets around it.

LEARN COSMOS GUYS.
Habitable? Enough resources to support entire galaxy? Suuuure....
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AndyBuzz: I really don't understand how the indoc theory got so popular.
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Gersen: The power of denial, A lot of fans refused to accept that Bioware writers could be so totally incompetent and instead considered that if the endings were as lame as they were it must be because they has some "hidden" and clever reasons.

Personally I always thought the e-theory was way too clever for Bioware to have thought of it on their own.
This.
But you have to give credits to Casey Hudson that rest of the game was brilliant. ;)
Post edited June 26, 2012 by IronStar
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IronStar: Habitable? Enough resources to support entire galaxy? Suuuure....
Yes. Even us, with our lousy telescopes already found around 50 habitable planets. With THEIR technology, term "habitable" may be quite different than ours.

I've read somewhere that it can be even 2,5 billion habitable planets in our galaxy. I don't know how much in Orion Belt / Orion Nebula, though.

But "omg wtf they are trapped in solar system now" theory is pure bullshit.
Post edited June 26, 2012 by keeveek
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AndyBuzz: I really don't understand how the indoc theory got so popular.
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Gersen: The power of denial, A lot of fans refused to accept that Bioware writers could be so totally incompetent and instead considered that if the endings were as lame as they were it must be because they has some "hidden" and clever reasons.

Personally I always thought the e-theory was way too clever for Bioware to have thought of it on their own.
What I really liked about that theory was the "meta gaming" effect. You as a player were blinded by the simple "follow the quest marker" input, which in the end would have lead to your defeat. But you had to "break" out of the box and act in a "non gamey" way.

It would have been actually a good idea, if "dying" or shooting anders, shooting yourself, etc would have progressed the game.

Very few games did that before.

Oh, and I agree that the theory was way to elaborate to actually be thought of. But Bioware put a lot of thinking into the ME universe, just read all those secondary codex entries ...
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keeveek: In Orion's Nebula , where solar system is located there are BILLIONS of stars , and each fucking one of them may have planets around it.
I said return to their planet (i.e. in their nebula), not to find another planet to live on. Learn reading guy ;-)

If the Quarians wanted to live on "any" planet they wouldn't have spent centuries in their ships.
Post edited June 26, 2012 by Gersen
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IronStar: But you have to give credits to Casey Hudson that rest of the game was brilliant. ;)
I agree. Both Touchanka and the Geth resolution are in my top ten gaming moments. Along with confronting the Practical Incarnation, meeting the Master and discovering the source of Half-Ogres.
Post edited June 26, 2012 by SimonG
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keeveek: In Orion's Nebula , where solar system is located there are BILLIONS of stars , and each fucking one of them may have planets around it.
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Gersen: I said return to their planet (i.e. in their nebula), not to find another planet to live on. Learn reading guy ;-)

If the Quarians wanted to live on "any" planet they wouldn't have spend centuries in their ships.
It still doesn't mean that they all are going to starve to death, which is a part of that "trapped" theory.
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Gersen: I said return to their planet (i.e. in their nebula), not to find another planet to live on. Learn reading guy ;-)

If the Quarians wanted to live on "any" planet they wouldn't have spend centuries in their ships.
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keeveek: It still doesn't mean that they all are going to starve to death, which is a part of that "trapped" theory.
Bioware seem to disagree with you because...





SPOILERS:
they have retconned the relays being destroyed. The cutscene doesn't show them exploding anymore and apparently Hackett stated that they will rebuild them. This happens in the Destroy ending if I understood correctly.
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OmegaX: SPOILERS: snip
I hope it's just a rumour...