My issue with this is every time a survivor role has been in play the win condition has been to survive to the end with a townie, so why would you say you want to be at the end with only one townie so you could win? It goes without saying that if two town players are left at the end they win. But as I pointed out your statement alluded to two groups and the only way there are two people left with two groups is if one is town and the other a neutral or scum.

I never said all of Kryspyns vote jumps. However this vote there is a bit I can see for moving a vote. I will point it out. As I am not good with multi quoting I will just copy and paste.

This is from CSPVG post 220:

[i]As for the game, all I really have to add for the moment is that Bookwyrm, and to a lesser extent bler, are attempting to be so obfuscatory with all his little 'slips' and 'claims' that I think best practice in dealing with him, for the moment is:

1) Ignore his antics;
2) Press him for actual participation instead of this constant baiting. [/i]

-Yet he only calls out Wyrm and not bler

- Then he goes on to talk about flavor.

[i]1) I would advise against playing to your PM's flavour, and to put the game's flavour itself to one side. I'm not sure if this is done in RL Mafia games, but I've never seen it done in Forum Mafia. It tends to get a little tedious and sidetrack everyone from what they actually should be doing: hunting for scum.

Before anyone says so, yes I did share my PM info, but as I said (or believe I said, I haven't gone back to check, nor do I remember) I did it more out of boredom and a belief that my PM's flavour really isn't that vital to anyone. Perhaps scum can use it to structure a claim, but I don't what a shared contains all that they need.
[/i]

-He shared his pm out of boredom now and not to help us gather information. Why the sudden change in reasoning?

You mean, besides the Sun causing lens flare and dazzling me, right?

In the second to last game. My win condition was to be alive with only 1 other person. It did not matter who they were. I forget exactly what it was we were after but if I was alive with only 1 other person I was strong enough to take them out and gain the object for myself and I would have won.

My plan?!

Like I said Krypsyn is there only because for the entirety of my GOG forum mafia career I've never seen him as something else. His behavior isn't noticeably different than before, he's going on in the way I came to expect from him so far. I could go and vote for him but I don't have anything to back my vote with and he isn't one who would crack just because he got a vote out of the blue. Trust me, whenever I feel he's my guy, he and everyone else here will know about it. That much of me you have seen.

The broken clock wasn't meant as an insult, but in my eyes you are one of the few who tend to wrap themselves up in crazy conspiracy theories more often than not but one doesn't know when the craziest one of the bunch will turn out to be true. I hope I didn't offend you but if I did I apologize.

Long story short - I still don't fine a suitable vote target, even the scummiest player in my list.



One should be careful when pulling stuff out of one's behind.



Isn't the Sun supposed to be capitalized?



These are nice. Where did you get them from?



And last but not least, where did arsonists come from? And I accused Flub of being too specific when he talked about serial killers...

Thank you for the clarification, for some reason I had it in my head you had to survive to the end with a townie to win.

Interesting.

Not necessarily.

JMich mentioned it at one point in passing. GOG's site seems to be crapping out on me, but I can't tell if the issue is GOG, my internet, or my computer. If I remember, I'll try again later.

Try to play Ziggurat without it. (Important totally mafia relevant information: Today I finally managed to get all achievements in Ziggurat! Yay for me! That's like first game ever I did that.)

Only those redundant/duplicate ones and those made in joke. (Or if someone pisses me off.)

Good

OK. I see what you mean now.

Ahhh... I should have seen that. Thank you.

That would actually be pretty amusing, and probably pretty difficult.

Again, thank you. I understand what you were doing now.

You do have a point there. Actually, come to think of it, you have a really good point there.
Problem is that there's a circle in the first place. While you are telling the villagers to think their way out of the circle, I would prefer not to have created a circle in the first place. However, each to his own, and now that I understand your reasoning, (at least, I think I do) I can leave it alone.

Yes. But I don't think you're getting any information, besides vague reactions that could or could not have any relevance on the reactionary's faction.

I'm glad that you're going to be more serious...wait. Have you changed your mind between the period and the capital A? If you have a good reason for your vote to be on yogsloth, then why would you remove it for some trivia? If you don't have a good reason for your vote on yogsloth, then why wouldn't you take it off, without waiting for trivia?
To be clear, I'm actually amused when people make crazy votes. I do sometimes feel that this game takes itself a little too seriously. But, if you state that you are going to be serious, do it.

I actually kind of understand him calling out only Bookwyrm. He does say that bler is only guilty to a lesser extent, and it would be a bit awkward to call both of them. If I was in his position, I would assume that bler is reading closely enough that he will also get the idea.

When first sharing his PM, CSPVG did say that he was sharing it out of "sheer boredom". He is being consistent, from what I can see.

Also, could someone post a link to the rules pages? Disclaimer: I HAVE read them. I just want to go over them again, and I can't seem to find a link in the game thread.

I took OP Rule #11 to mean spelling/grammar mistakes. Are you referring to something else? Your wording sounds like a player might have received something by accident.


I think I can answer this one…RWarehall questioned JMich’s use of term “arsonists” here:

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Well... that was ... messy. As bad as it looks, the links actually go to the right places. :P

Wow. That WAS rather messy. Thanks.

Admin stuff first. I'll address game related questions in my next post.

Congrats!

I figured as much. I probably wouldn't have noticed the updates if I didn't go back through the rules again to see what possibilities I could glean from the OP.

I think you meant Rule 10: "10. Do not quote or paraphrase too closely any PMs you receive from the mod. If you are afraid that your paraphrasing is too close, contact me and I'll take a look at it. I certainly made some mistakes in PM. If you notice one feel free to notice me and laugh at me in private. Please do not try to use it to your advantage."

I think the bolded portions combined with something in the sign up thread (which I can't find now, so I might be misremembering) to make me wonder if a few PMs got sent to the wrong players or something. For some reason it didn't occur to me to actually ask him about it; I figured he'd get it sorted it out and everything would be okay.

Regardless, YOUR interpretation is actually probably the correct one. I don't mean to cast any aspersions on our valiant mod. Except that crack about using Steam, that was intended (and we're going to ignore the fact that I also have a Steam account).