you talking to me? i think im the only one who has brought up game-play in regards to trumping lore...

this topic is about LOTRO and using Steam. we have gone off topic to help a new guy try to understand the game.


to give my opinion, im a gamer. first and foremost. Ive only read The Hobbit and half of the Fellowship of the Ring. i am no lore-junky. if monkeys shooting lazers from their butts makes this game more fun, it would get my vote.




i second that emotion!

I think we're running in circles. I can see where you're coming from regarding the no mages argument. However, you dodged arguments about the inclusion of Lore-masters (who get to throw fireballs as a lvl1 starting skill) and the Minstrel / healing issue. Again, that's not a Moria thing.
Frankly put, what you're asking for isn't just LOTRO without Rune-keepers. It's also without Lore-masters and much more critical, without any healing at all except from eating food. So no Ministrels either. How to do raids this way? No idea. Tough groupquests? I don't know.

It's one thing to respect the lore, and the devs HAVE to do that. Otherwise they wouldn't get the license from Middle-earth Enterprises. In fact, that's the reason why they had to do the whole morale / healing twist. It's another thing to be nitpicking about it.
In the end, it's Middle-earth Enterprises decision and they, apparently, gave the ok for the inclusion of the Rune-keeper class. And I find it a bit hard to contradict their decision about it, especially from a lore standpoint.

But their agreement to lorebreaking content does not trump source.material


Regarding the LM, its not overtly a "Wizard" as the Rune Keeper is. And the inclusion iz why I left, as it showed tjt Lore takes a backseat to luring WOW players over.

Didn't read through the whole thread, but most likely what will happen is Turbine will release the Mithril and/or new edition with newest expansions on the Steam Store and what will happen is it will be the base client with periodic updates, but patching will still be done through the Turbine loader.

Steam will be optional. Just look at the other f2p mmos on there and it's going to be similar: DC:UO, EQ 2, MTG: Tactics, STO, CO, Forsaken World, all have stand alone downloader you can get straight from the publisher website.

Now that I have been playing for almost two whole days I gotta say that this game is way better than I imagined. I have a few things to learn but I think I'm getting the hang of it. Thanks everyone!

As to the original point of this thread I'm guessing it is an attempt to make LOTRO more accessible to Steam users by letting you convert funds from your Steam wallet into Turbine Points, I don't see Turbine completely giving up their ownership of all those transactions.

Moria is for lvl50+ so yeah, you decide if you enjoy the game a lot sooner. And Moria is huuuuge.....

Don't break a sweat picking your class. Once you've gotten through the starting areas and know your way around / don't read every questline / know the stories told, you'll easily level to 20 in one day if you really want to.
Short class breakdown:
Guardian - the tank. Sturdy, high survivability, rather slow killing solo.
Champion - AE damage in plates. Much lower survivability, will get killed from overzealousness.
Captain - 2hander + pet, support role.
Hunter - bow, damage dealer, rather low survivability, best travel options of all classes.
Burglar - stealth, damage, group support.
Lore-master - caster type, pets, crowd control.
Minstrel - the healer, high survivability, can (and for leveling should) be skilled like an offensive nordic skald.

Moria only classes:
Warden - my personal favourit, high survivability, 2nd tank after guardians, unique combat system.
Rune-keeper - 2nd caster typ, can be backup healer in one fight and damage dealer in the next one.

Though once you settled for a specific class, go and do some fun stuff. Like the Chicken Sessions. :p

I personally found the Captain and Runekeeper to be the most fun classes to play, with Champion and Hunter coming in second place. I couldn't really get into any of the other classes, though Guardian seemed to have good potential. I never really played my guard much though because the mechanics are somewhere between the captain ones and the champion ones, so it never seemed different enough, I guess.

Choosing a class was he easy part, it's picking a vocation that's giving me a hard time. Apparently you can gather ingredients or use ingredients, but not both at the same time. I have lots of stuff I can't use and there is a bunch of stuff I could be making but I can't get the ingredients to make them. It's almost like the game designers intended you to play with a group.

To partially answer the OP, Turbine and Valve seem to have reached an agreement to provide Steam versions of both Lord of the Rings Online and Dungeons & Dragons Online. This was recently confirmed by the additions to the Steam registry and the continued updates for these entries.

Turbine has probably deleted the thread since this is supposed to be a pretty big announcement and they do not want to talk about it till the titles are ready to be distributed through Steam.

The .dlls are there to interface with Steam.

oh, DDO got a similar integration too? that makes sense. how about Asheron's Call (havent played that game for 10+yrs.)?

Question: if/when they show up on Steam, will I be able to play them without creating a new login, using just the Steam ID?

No, it's not in the registry yet. I doubt it'll come to Steam unless they make it F2P (which they should do).

Here is the Steam registry entry for Turbine: http://cdr.thebronasium.com/sub/apps/12021

Not sure, but if the non-Steam versions also have the DLL then it is possible that it will be integrated to allow Steam IDs to be used as the user accounts for LotRO and DDO.

From today lotro is on steam !
http://store.steampowered.com/news/8147/

http://store.steampowered.com/app/213174


Buy The Lord of the Rings Online™ Steam Starter Pack $14.99 or 13.99 Euro

Perfect for new players, the Steam Pack includes: An Exclusive Noble Grey Steed, 3 Bonus Quest Packs, a 25% XP Boost Token and 1,000 Turbine Points.

* Exclusive Noble Grey Steed: Saddle up on this striking grey steed as early as level 5 and travel across Middle-earth 68% faster than on foot.
* Three Bonus Quest Packs: Continue your adventures through the troubled Northdowns, tranquil Evendim, and frigid Misty Mountains
* 25% XP Boost Token: Earn 25% more experience from quests and monster while you have this token equipped, all the way to level 65
* 1,000 Turbine Points: Customize your experience in Middle-earth with 1,000 Turbine Points. Buy cosmetic gear, rare mounts, experience boosts, buffs, and more.


http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2737539



With new expansion(Riders of Rohan) Lotro moving from F2P 2 P2W...

Price for new questpack form 40$ 2 70$ ! for small update without new instance cluster... (new land mass is free, story line 2 and new mount combat 2) pre order with crap bonus items and questpack...

http://rohan.lotro.com/pre-order.html

Many threds about price are closed by admins in this one we can discuss:
http://forums.lotro.com/showthread.p...cussion-Thread

Ofc flame start in other forums... new price politics for Rohan and Rohan Lotro store items is insane in my opinion.

More then 80% of lotro community are angry for WB/Turbine becasue we love lotro and they change it for new rich customers from steam.

I was right ha ha ha!
I wasn't going to necro the thread just to post that though.

Yup, I've added to the "classified" thread, but if anyone wants to trade some steam cash for gog, I'd trade a fair amount of gog codes for 2 of the 14.99 lotro offer codes. Send me a PM if interested.

I also verified on the LOTRO forums, STEAM will be an option, and not required... as it should be. Seems like a good move to me. (still don't understand why they deleted threads and refused to answer questions over the speculation :/ )